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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:18 pm
by skitter30
i could've sworn i was voting no on p005

HURT: p005

the proposition fails

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:58 pm
by OkaPoka
Don't know if p028 is necessary if we move forward with the only x bills active at a time idea because we will just kill bad bills to make room for other bills

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:04 pm
by OkaPoka
===P007===

Proposed by: NMSA

Yea (3) - NMSA, skitter, okapoka

Nay (2) - Inferno, Charles510

The office of Executive is established.


uodated p007 to what i think is right? since tris temp /outed it means this bill is one vote away from passing

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:48 pm
by Aronis
I'd vote in favor of 007 if there was an explanation of like what the executive is or does

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:49 pm
by Formerfish
Is there a place for me to jump in, or should i just leap?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:08 pm
by Charles510
leap!

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:25 pm
by OkaPoka
well we can vote on what powers and how to determine the full authority of the executive!

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:32 pm
by Formerfish
Is there like a welcome packet i can expect in my bear skin?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:39 pm
by OkaPoka
not really

we are still in the birthing moments of this great society

and as such we need to feed our baby with the right nutrition to help it grow but we are all inexperienced lawmakers ( i think ) so the blind leads the blind welcome btw

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:40 pm
by Formerfish
ok, so how does one figure out where i am needed right now?

Is there a list of all votes on the table that need further support or opposition?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:42 pm
by OkaPoka
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... er30/Nomic this is semi updated i think ? scroll down

otherwise u have isos for voting

4 is majority rn so basically find anything w 3 votes

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:49 pm
by Formerfish
In post 135, OkaPoka wrote:https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... er30/Nomic this is semi updated i think ? scroll down

otherwise u have isos for voting

4 is majority rn so basically find anything w 3 votes
Am i looking at all the P's?

Starting at P003?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:53 pm
by OkaPoka
look at current proposals

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:59 pm
by Formerfish
I am, the first is P003

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:02 pm
by OkaPoka
yep

but p003 appears to be hammered lolz

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:05 pm
by Formerfish
I feel like there has to be an easy way to do this.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:06 pm
by Formerfish
are any more important or any that need to be decided first before others can be decided?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:40 pm
by Inferno390
Since Tris has /outed, I'm going to say P003 fails.
We need a grace period for when all players have voted when we need unanimous consent to get a bill to pass.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:43 pm
by Inferno390
VOTE: Nay P027 P028

The first I've repeated enough times to make my stance clear.
The second is not what abstaining means nor is it how it works.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:58 pm
by Inferno390
P029:
Amend R206:
Votes for proposals should be done using the vote tags and include "Yea" or "Nay" and include the proposal number. A player can also abstain from voting; their vote will not be counted among the number of active votes.
To abstain from voting on a given proposal, a player must type Vote: Abstain (proposal number) in the thread.


P030:
After all players have voted on a proposal that would require unanimous consent to pass, if the bill does not then pass, it gets a further 48 hours from the time of the last vote on the proposal so that all players may change their votes if they wish.

So from what I was understanding from R206 and R109, anyone who is abstaining is counted as an active voter on that particular proposal. For example, a proposal with 2 abstaining takes 1 less vote to pass.
So following this, players need to have a way to mark when they are abstaining so that votecounts can be adjusted accordingly. This will do that.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:06 pm
by Formerfish
Can i sell my vote?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:09 pm
by Inferno390
My guess would be no, since there is nothing in the rules that would allow for it.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:12 pm
by Formerfish
In post 146, Inferno390 wrote:My guess would be no, since there is nothing in the rules that would allow for it.
Dont you mean that there is nothing in the rules prohibiting it?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:12 pm
by Formerfish
In absence of law, actions cant be illegal.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:36 pm
by Formerfish
VOTE: Aye P014