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Post Post #100  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:30 am

anyone wanna guess my bidding scheme
If you ask Rick Astley for his copy of the movie 'Up', he can not give it to you as he will never give you up.
However, by refusing to do so, he lets you down.
Thus creating the Astley Paradox.
*glares at Sirius*Well played my friend, well played. - Aristophanes

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Post Post #101  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:25 am

Eh, we'll find out after the game.

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Post Post #102  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:30 pm

Hand 22

Zen Count/Basic is first to open this time, opening with its now normal $5,000.
ND bot follows suit with its own bet of $5,000.
Apple Siri succumbs to peer pressure (all the cool bots are doing it!) and also bets $5,000.

Out come the cards ...

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
14
$5,000
$1,235,000
ND botImageImage
18
$5,000
$990,000
Apple SiriImageImage
21
BLACKJACK!
$5,000
$1,086,000
DealerImageImage
2


Zen Count/Basic has a 14 versus a dealer 2. It chooses to STAND, trusting that the dealer will go bust.
ND bot has an 18; it too opts to STAND, reasoning things are not likely to improve.
Apple Siri has a blackjack! Bad time to drop its bet to the minimum, but at least it doesn't have to worry about the outcome here.

The dealer reveals its hole card - a ten of spades. That gives it a 12, to which it must HIT. It does so and draws a six of clubs, putting it at 18, where it STANDs. Zen Count/Basic loses; ND bot pushes.

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
14
$5,000
$1,235,000
ND botImageImage
18
$5,000
$990,000
Apple SiriImageImage
21
BLACKJACK!
$5,000
$1,086,000
DealerImageImageImage
18


Results:

Zen Count/Basic loses $5,000, dropping it down to $1,235,000.
ND bot pushes, remaining at $995,000.
Apple Siri wins $7,500, going up to $1,098,500.
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Post Post #103  (ISO)  » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:10 pm

Hand 23

ND bot's turn to open this time; it pushes in its standard $5,000 bet.
Apple Siri copies ND bot's bet with $5,000 of its own.
Zen Count/Basic does the same. $5,000 - minimum bets all around.

Here come the cards ...

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
12
$5,000
$1,230,000
ND botImageImage
20
$5,000
$990,000
Apple SiriImageImage
14
$5,000
$1,093,500
DealerImageImage
10


With a face card showing, a dealer blackjack is a possibility. The dealer scans the hole card.

Spoiler: Is it an ace?
No aces here. On to the action!

ND bot with a 20 naturally chooses to STAND, as with no blackjack on the dealer's end its success (or at least, lack of failure!) is almost guaranteed.
The other bots are not so fortunate. Apple Siri, with only a 14, opts to HIT - getting a king of spades and a quick 24. BUST.
Zen Count/Basic has more room for error with a 12; it also chooses to HIT - but one jack of clubs later and it too is over the limit at 22. BUST.

The dealer reveals a ten of diamonds, making this another short and brutal hand. ND bot pushes again; everyone else loses.

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImageImage
22
OVER!
$5,000
$1,230,000
ND botImageImage
20
$5,000
$990,000
Apple SiriImageImageImage
24
OVER!
$5,000
$1,093,500
DealerImageImage
20


Results:

ND bot pushes, remaining at $995,000.
Apple Siri loses, dropping to $1,093,500.
Zen Count/Basic loses, dropping to $1,230,000.


One more hand to go before elimination, and we'll be posting that hand ... today!
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Post Post #104  (ISO)  » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:42 pm

Hand 24 - elimination hand

The time has come to say goodbye to another one of the participants. Let's find out who.

First to bet: Apple Siri, which opens with $5,000.
Next up: Zen Count/Basic, which follows with the same bet - $5,000.
Last: ND bot, which bids ...
Spoiler: How much?
$5,000, like always.


Here come the cards!

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
Soft 20
$5,000
$1,225,000
ND botImageImage
Soft 19
$5,000
$990,000
Apple SiriImageImage
19
$5,000
$1,088,500
DealerImageImage
8


Very promising for the players - no one with less than a 19 against a dealer 8!

Apple Siri STANDS with a hard 19.
Zen Count/Basic STANDS with a soft 20.
ND bot STANDS with a soft 19.

The dealer flips over its hole card - and it's a nine of diamonds, making this an even shorter hand - but far more generous. Everyone wins!

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
Soft 20
$5,000
$1,225,000
ND botImageImage
Soft 19
$5,000
$990,000
Apple SiriImageImage
19
$5,000
$1,088,500
DealerImageImage
17


Results:

Apple Siri wins $5,000, going back up to $1,098,500.
Zen Count/Basic wins $5,000, going back up to $1,235,000.
ND bot wins $5,000, reclaiming its original stake of $1,000,000.

Unfortunately, while breaking even is a most impressive accomplishment in a casino - where the house always wins! - it isn't enough to prevail today. With $1,000,000, ND bot is the poorest of the remaining bots and is tentatively eliminated from the tournament.

Appeals are now open. Players will have 48 hours to appeal any plays (including bets) made by their bots. Any mistakes will be fixed; replays will occur if warranted. When the timer expires, any mistakes or errors not caught will be final.

(expired on 2020-12-06 10:45:00) remaining. Please send any appeals via PM to both StrangerCoug and me. Thanks!
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Post Post #105  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:29 pm

No appeals were made, so the final results stand. ND bot, programmed by Nancy Drew 39, has been eliminated from the tournament.

We'll be resuming the action on Monday. I'm hoping to keep to the same schedule this week - and wrap everything up by Friday, with the last appeal period running over the weekend again.
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Post Post #106  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:05 pm

eh im losing i think :)
If you ask Rick Astley for his copy of the movie 'Up', he can not give it to you as he will never give you up.
However, by refusing to do so, he lets you down.
Thus creating the Astley Paradox.
*glares at Sirius*Well played my friend, well played. - Aristophanes

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Post Post #107  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:54 am

The deck seems kinda dead and I guess your bot doesn't gamble?

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Post Post #108  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:15 am

my bot is betting 5000 for the rest of the game i guess
If you ask Rick Astley for his copy of the movie 'Up', he can not give it to you as he will never give you up.
However, by refusing to do so, he lets you down.
Thus creating the Astley Paradox.
*glares at Sirius*Well played my friend, well played. - Aristophanes

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Post Post #109  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:32 pm

Hand 25

Two bots remain. Six hands before we crown a winner of the tournament. The first of those six hands starts now.

Zen Count/Basic is first to bet; it opts for its now-customary $5,000 wager.
Apple Siri makes the exact same wager: $5,000.

Here come the cards ...

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
10
$5,000
$1,230,000
Apple SiriImageImage
9
$5,000
$1,093,500
DealerImageImage
10


Decent totals for the players, but the dealer has a face card; a dealer blackjack would make short work of everything.
Spoiler: Any aces here?
No ace detected. Play continues.

With the dealer in a firm position, Zen Count/Basic forgoes the double and asks for a HIT instead - receiving a six of clubs, for a total of 16. Too late to surrender; it HITs once more and gets a Jack of Hearts. BUST.
Apple Siri also asks for a HIT. It gets a queen of hearts, and will have to hope the dealer doesn't have a 20. It STANDS.

The dealer reveals a seven of hearts. Dealer always STANDS on 17, which gives Apple Siri a win.

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImageImageImage
26
OVER!
$5,000
$1,230,000
Apple SiriImageImageImage
19
$5,000
$1,093,500
DealerImageImage
17


Results:

Zen Count/Basic loses $5,000, dropping to $1,230,000.
Apple Siri wins $5,000, climbing to $1,103,500.
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Post Post #110  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:03 pm

Hand 26

Apple Siri is first to bet this time, locking in a $5,000 wager.
Zen Count/Basic responds with a $5,000 wager of its own.

The dealer hands out the cards ...

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
14
$5,000
$1,225,000
Apple SiriImageImage
14
$5,000
$1,098,000
DealerImageImage
7


... and not very good ones at that, with both bots at 14 versus a 7 showing.

Apple Siri asks for a HIT - getting a king of clubs for 24. BUST.
Zen Count/Basic also asks for a HIT. It gets a two of spades for 16. It HITS again - getting a six of diamonds for 22. BUST.

That kills the hand. No action required by the dealer, but it reveals its hole card per Kilobit policies: a king of spades. Nothing the players could have done to avert this disaster.

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImageImageImage
22
OVER!
$5,000
$1,225,000
Apple SiriImageImageImage
24
OVER!
$5,000
$1,098,000
DealerImageImage
17


Apple Siri loses $5,000, dropping to $1,098,500.
Zen Count/Basic loses $5,000, dropping to $1,225,000.
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Post Post #111  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:54 pm

Hand 27

Zen Count/Basic opens up the bidding this time, throwing in a $5,000 bet.
Apple Siri does the same: $5,000. Do they know something we don't?

Here come the cards:

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
17
$5,000
$1,220,000
Apple SiriImageImage
14
$5,000
$1,093,000
DealerImageImage
3


Zen/Count Basic gets a 17, which is an obvious STAND - especially with the dealer having only a 3.
Apple Siri has only a 14, but also opts to STAND.

The dealer reveals a two of spades, for a total of 5. It HITS, claiming a four of spades, putting it at 9. One more HIT - drawing the king of diamonds for a 19. Everyone loses again. The bots' low bets pay off.

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
17
$5,000
$1,220,000
Apple SiriImageImage
14
$5,000
$1,093,000
DealerImageImageImageImage
19


Results:
Zen Count/Basic loses $5,000, dropping to $1,220,000.
Apple Siri loses $5,000, dropping to $1,093,000.
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Post Post #112  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:36 pm

Hand 28

Apple Siri bets $5,000, apparently locked in.
Zen Count/Basic remains equally unwavering, betting $5,000.

Cards are dealt ...

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
14
$5,000
$1,215,000
Apple SiriImageImage
16
$5,000
$1,088,500
DealerImageImage
3


... and it's low totals all around.

Apple Siri has a 16 against the dealer's 3. It chooses to STAND, hoping the dealer will go BUST.
Zen Count/Basic has only a 14, and makes the same choice: STAND.

The dealer reveals a six of diamonds, giving it 9. It HITS - drawing a jack of hearts and STANDING at 19. Everyone loses, again.

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
14
$5,000
$1,215,000
Apple SiriImageImage
16
$5,000
$1,088,500
DealerImageImageImage
19


Results:

Apple Siri loses $5,000, dropping to $1,088,500.
Zen Count/Basic loses $5,000, dropping to $1,215,000.

We'll play out the last two hands tomorrow!
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Post Post #113  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:20 pm

I have this image of two bots sullenly sitting at the table:
"Min bet"
"Me too"
"Low hand again"
"Me too"
"Lost again"
"Me too"
"'Nother round?"
"Sure, whatever"

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Post Post #114  (ISO)  » Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:24 pm

Hand 29

Zen Count/Basic is first up to bet - unsurprisingly, it continues to hold at $5,000.
Apple Siri, still trailing by well over $100,000, continues its recent trend and bets $5,000.

Out come the cards:

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
21
BLACKJACK!
$5,000
$1,210,000
Apple SiriImageImage
11
$5,000
$1,083,500
DealerImageImage
Soft 11


Now that looks a bit more exciting! Zen Count/Basic gets a blackjack, while Apple Siri has an 11 ... but the dealer has an ace showing, which could ruin everything. If the dealer also has a blackjack, it'll mean a push for Zen Count/Basic and an instant loss for Apple Siri.

With an ace showing, the dealer is obliged to offer insurance - a 2:1 side bet costing half the original bet that pays off if the dealer has a blackjack.
Zen Count/Basic refuses insurance.
Apple Siri refuses insurance.

The dealer scans its hole card ... does it have a ten or face card?

Spoiler: Is all hope lost?
Nope! Big sigh of relief for Zen Count/Basic, as that means its blackjack is a winner.

Apple Siri, meanwhile, has an 11 - normally a perfect opportunity to double down, but against a dealer's ace, Apple Siri decides discretion is the better part of valor and opts only to HIT. Good news: it gets a ten of hearts, putting it at 21! Bad news: it should have doubled down. Oops. At 21, it must STAND.

The dealer reveals a two of hearts, putting it at a soft 13. A HIT gives it a two of clubs, for a soft 15. Another HIT: an ace of clubs, and a soft 16. One more HIT, and the last one for sure: another two of clubs, giving the dealer a full house! What a shame this isn't poker; in blackjack, that's only an 18, where the dealer must finally STAND. Everyone wins!

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
21
BLACKJACK!
$5,000
$1,210,000
Apple SiriImageImageImage
21
$5,000
$1,083,500
DealerImageImageImageImageImage
18


Results:

Zen Count/Basic wins $7,500, climbing up to $1,222,500.
Apple Siri wins $5,000, climbing up to $1,093,500.


Next hand will be coming up soon!
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Post Post #115  (ISO)  » Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:44 pm

Hand 30

The last hand of the tournament. Who will walk away with the Grand Prize? Let's find out.

Apple Siri is first to bet. Will this be the moment it breaks its streak of minimum bets, risking everything to take the lead from behind?
Nope. $5,000 into the pot.
Zen Count/Basic also pushes in $5,000.

Here come the cards:

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
13
$5,000
$1,217,500
Apple SiriImageImage
13
$5,000
$1,088,500
DealerImageImage
10


And we're back to the bad hands. Both bots with 13s against a dealer ten. Out comes the scanner; no insurance this time.
Spoiler: Does the tournament end with a dealer blackjack?
Nope. Play continues!

Apple Siri is first to play. With a 13, it chooses to HIT - getting a jack of clubs, putting it at 23. BUST.
Zen Count/Basic is up next. It also opts to HIT - and gets a five of hearts, putting it at 18, where it STANDS.

The dealer reveals yet another five - a five of clubs, putting it at 15. It has to HIT at 15 - but it draws a four of diamonds, putting it at 19, where it STANDS. Everyone loses.

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImageImage
18
$5,000
$1,217,500
Apple SiriImageImageImage
23
OVER!
$5,000
$1,088,500
DealerImageImageImage
19


Results:

Apple Siri loses $5,000, leaving it with a grand total of $1,088,500.
Zen Count/Basic loses $5,000, leaving it with a grand total of $1,217,500.


Spoiler: Final Results (tentative):
RankingPlayer NameBot NameStack Size
1st PlaceinspiratieloosZen Count/Basic
$1,217,500
2nd PlaceSirius9121Apple Siri
$1,088,500
3rd PlaceNancy Drew 39ND Bot
$1,000,000
4th PlaceIrcherMinimalist Bot
$126,000
5th PlaceAronisR2-D21
$0


Appeals are now open. Players have 48 hours to submit any errors. Material errors will be fixed; hands replayed if warranted. Please PM any errors to both StrangerCoug and me. Thanks!
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Post Post #116  (ISO)  » Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:34 pm

I plan to provide my commentary after the game is over, but I wish to thank Farren for helping bring this game to a timely conclusion :)
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Post Post #117  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:37 pm

I received no appeals; results are final.

Congratulations to inspiratieloos for winning Blackjack Bots!

GAME OVER.

Thanks for playing, everyone! And thank you to StrangerCoug for giving me an opportunity to help out with this. :)
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Post Post #118  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:40 pm

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Post Post #119  (ISO)  » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:18 pm

I'm in for the next try
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Post Post #120  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:27 am

I figured I was probably the only one who implemented a counting strategy.

I think Apple Siri was also using basic strategy, just written out instead of as a table as ND bot and mine did? So all three seem pretty much equally good at the actual game.

The second shuffle the deck just immediately went trash and stayed that way, so counting was kinda irrelevant. In the end I think I got lucky that in the one moment the first shuffle that the deck was good my bot bet big and won big.

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Post Post #121  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:42 am

I'll have more time to post my thoughts after work, but if and when I run this again, I will probably cut the first round and have a four-player game of 20 hands. The bot submitting rules will probably change a little, but the plans are that the counting strategy that Zen Count/Basic used to win the tournament will remain legal.
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Post Post #122  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:56 pm

Thanks for modding y'all.

Despite trying to code something simple; I still managed to get it wrong. I'm actually not quite sure what I was thinking when I did the playing strategy. Oh well.
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Post Post #123  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:38 pm

You used the wrong kind of simple.

"Use the strategy in this image."

More legitimately, the simplest vaguely decent strategy for blackjack is probably "stand on 17+, otherwise hit".

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Post Post #124  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:53 pm

For a long moment, I considered just inning with "stand on 17+, otherwise hit" :lol:

Well played and well modded - this was pretty cool to follow along.

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