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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:37 pm

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Welcome to another game of Nomic, a game where you, the players, get to decide upon the rules. The idea is simple: players dictate the rules by drafting and voting upon proposals. The initial ruleset is posted below:

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Immutable Rules:
101: Players must follow all currently active rules.
102: A rule is active (except as excluded in 103) if it passes and has not
 been repealed or amended by another rule.
103: A rule is no longer active if it is completely overridden by another
 rule or repealed.
104: No rule shall be made to stop further amendments, additions, or deletions
 of the rules.
105: Five active players are required to make, vote upon, or pass proposals.
106: Inactive players automatically abstain on all proposals.
107: Voting threshold changes due to additional players or inactive players
 are considered instantly.
108: Immutable rules automatically override mutable rules unless an
 immutable rule specifies otherwise.
109: Whenever a mutable law conflicts with a mutable law, or an immutable
 law conflicts with an immutable law, the lowest ordinal shall take precedence
 unless otherwise dictated by the laws. If both defer to each other, then
 the number rule applies again.
110: All players are eligible to vote.
111: All immutable rules may be transmuted to mutable rules by unanimous
 consent.
112: Mutable rules may be transmuted to immutable rules by unanimous consent.
113: To calculate the total number of active votes, tally up the number
 of votes possessed by active players minus the votes of abstaining players.
114: All new rules are mutable.
115: In the initial ruleset, rules 101-118 are immutable, and rules
 201-214 are mutable.
116: It takes unanimous consent from all other players to override the
 moderator on the formatting of the game's associated wiki pages.
117: Players must follow the formatting and updating guidelines specified in
 the rules and by the moderator.
118: Players must help update the game status by adding their name when they
 vote for or against a proposal and by marking when a proposal has been
 accepted or rejected. (Note that these refer to updating the wiki pages.)

Mutable Rules:
201: All players are given one vote to vote Yea or Nea to proposals.
202: An inactive player is any player who has not posted for a total of
 72 hours.
203: Unless otherwise specified, immutable rules must be transmuted before
 they are amended or repealed.
204: Unless otherwise specified, all mutable rules require an absolute
 majority of active votes to amend or repeal.
205: New proposals begin at 301 and ascend in number. They are numbered
 in accordance to the time they are proposed regardless of whether they pass
 or fail.
206: New rules require an absolute majority of active votes to pass.
207: The game begins when there are at least five active players,
including the moderator.
208: There may be no more than five pending proposals at any given time.
 A pending proposal is a proposal that has not yet been marked as having
 passed or failed. 
209: Votes for proposals should be done using the vote tags and include
 "Yea" or "Nay" (and variants and any other options that are allowed in
 future rules) and include the proposal number.
210: It is the player's responsibility to number proposals correctly.
 Proposals with missing or incorrect numbers are automatically failed and
 are not added to the proposal history.
211: Players may VOTE: ABSTAIN # to abstain on a proposal. (Please use
vote tags or bold.)
212: To join, simply post /in.
213: All players start with 0 points.
214: The first player to reach 100 points wins the game.


To decrease the maintenance requirement, all changes will be made on my wiki pages that I have specifically made for this game. You should follow the general formatting I use there. The main page for this game is User:Ircher/Nomic, and that page links to the other pages. I will maintain a player list in this post, but all other official changes will be kept there.

Players:

1. Ircher
2. lendunistus
3. Jake the Wolfie
4. StrangerCoug
5. Deimos27
6. Aronis

Links to Previous Games:

These are previous versions of Nomic I've hosted listed in order of most recent to least recent. They should give you a feel for how these games work.
  1. Nomic: The Constitution Game
  2. Nomic: The game where YOU make the rules!
  3. Nomic: Codename Phoenix
  4. Nomic
This is the game author's thoughts on the game.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:41 pm

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/in

i hope i stay with this more than i did years ago
here's what it says
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:05 pm

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/in

I hope I don't abandon this like blognomic
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:54 am

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/in as This could be you!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:03 pm

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/out as This could be you!

/in
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:03 pm

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Sorry, username can't have any excitement :(
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:40 pm

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Please invite your friends to join! We just need one more person!
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:23 am

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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:31 am

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We now have 5, so people can start proposing stuff.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:10 pm

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Proposal 301: Currency refers to any resource which may be freely traded between players without any cost. Should a law instate a new currency, it must have a name, and one initial way to earn it. If it is not stated, assume that all players start with 0 of the Currency.


VOTE: Yea 301

If that passes, I'll let someone else make a currency


EDIT: changed "reffers" to "refers"
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:15 pm

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VOTE: Yea 301
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:06 pm

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I will pass it if you fix the typo "reffers". (Also as a side note, points are already in the rules, but I don't know if you would consider that a currency type.)
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:08 pm

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VOTE: Yea 301
I will update the page, and 301 passes as of this post.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:24 pm

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Proposal 302: The player who proposes a proposal that passes gains 1 point. This rule is retroactive at the time of enactment.


VOTE: Yea 302
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:40 pm

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Hmm, what about a colloary, where proposing a failed proposal loses 1 point?
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:48 pm

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That could potentially be another proposal, but I'm not editing my proposal to include that.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:19 pm

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VOTE: Yea 302
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:36 pm

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VOTE: Nay 302

I think we shouldn’t be worrying about win conditions right now
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:48 pm

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Oh it has very little to do with win conditions. More to do with having points be something to work with. I would gladly approve a rule to amend the number of points needed to win to be higher.

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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:06 pm

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Proposal 303: The Monarch is defined to be exactly one player at a time, who has special abilities that may later be defined. In addition, The Monarch may choose to abdicate their power to a player of their choice. If more than 3/4ths of all active non-Monarch players vote to overthrow the Monarch, then a new Monarch shall be picked with the old Monarch being ineligible for being picked. If a Monarch becomes inactive, a new Monarch shall be picked.
If no player is currently the Monarch, whoever has the most points above 10 and is eligible shall become the Monarch. All inactive players are considered ineligible for becoming the Monarch. If no player currently meets this threshold, the first player to meet this criteria will become the Monarch.


VOTE: Yea 303

I have some plans with this, mainly instituting the first currency, Royalty Coins.

By default The Monarch would be able to spend as many Royalty Coins as the treasury has (Say, 1,000 to start) and would be able to give and take away Royalty coins from players.
If a Monarch had a previous balance of Royalty Coins and they abdicate, then they get to keep twice as many Royalty Coins as they started out with, assuming that the treasury has that many coins. If a Monarch was overthrown, then they lose all of their Royalty Coins.

Edit: Added "If no player currently meets this threshold, the first player to meet this criteria will become the Monarch."
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:16 pm

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I will also promise to abdicate immediately should I get to be the Monarch, probably to StrangerCoug if I can wrap him into this.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:38 pm

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VOTE: Nay 303

This is a democracy
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:20 pm

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In post 18, Ircher wrote: (Also, this is a note for everyone but especially tris: the inactivity status is currently set at 72 hours, so make sure you post once every 3 days.)
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:28 pm

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VOTE: yea 302
concerning 303, it doesn't make clear what happens if no one meets the conditions for becoming monarch
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:39 pm

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i’ve updated the wiki as of post 23
if that’s Ircher’s job, apologies but oh well
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