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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:37 am

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Pooky clinches our first playoff berth in L1 and can clinch a first round bye with a win and either Kilga or me taking a loss
Kilga and I both clinch playoff berths with a win (or a loss if both LLD and PEG also lose), we’re in the running for first round byes but can’t clinch one this week
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Racefan, Reck, Rhinox, and PJ are eliminated from postseason contention (though with the rules changes, they will be able to fight to avoid relegation in the consolation bracket)
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:35 am

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In post 199, D3f3nd3r wrote:
In post 196, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I started 0-4 in this league and in week ten I think I was a 0.4% to make ploffs and now I'm 6-6 and I'm 68% to make ploffs?

I apparently can't start hot in any league ever. All I ever do is comebacks.
I think the site is sorta messed up, since two weeks ago it had me 100% getting a first round bye and now has me at 17% to do that. 10,000 simulations is really, really low for a Monte Carlo program I think?
you can increase the number of sims by pressing the button. I went to 100,000 sims.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:58 am

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True, but I’m used to seeing these kinds of simulations get into the millions and I don’t want to press the button that many times
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:12 am

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In post 200, D3f3nd3r wrote: Whats that bear doing...
Pooky has to lose twice and i got to win twice to steal our division from him. I can only force one of his losses, but not both. Guess i will just give it all i got
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:00 am

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All of the top 4 in L2 are 8-4 atm, with the points scored atm being
Pabs 1492
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Riven 1411
peta 1404

http://ffodds.50projects.com/leagues/41 ... 75/week/12
edit: ^this might be messing up in regards to Points scored being a tiebreaker? What Do does have a playoff spot locked but they could theoretically go from 5th to 6th if Yiley wins their last 2 games and What Do loses both (and Yiley scores about ~35 total points more than What Do in the last 2 games) - it's not likely to change but it's not 100% that What Do gets 5th.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:06 pm

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Very likely MS league 1 about to have 2 way tie for 1st (1-2), 3 way tie for 3rd (3-5), 3 way tie for 6th (6-8)

1sts are gonna be 9-4 (pooky and D3f) - clinched playoffs
3rds gonna have 8-5 (Kilga, Me, owls)
6ths gonna have 7-6 (Tally, Peg, LLD)

NO ONE HAS CLINCHED A BYE as we approach the final week
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:43 pm

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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:13 am

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Well that was incredibly awful.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:40 am

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Wait a sec, so I'm currently the 3 seed despite not leading any of the 3 divisions?

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We have had that for years, but that means I got more ways to get a bye. D3f or Pooky loses and I win and or got right points, its mine!

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So we can change seeds before playoffs based on our record, but we can not change seeds during the playoffs based on our record? So we are the exact opposite of the real nfl... we might want to look at this again NEXT year

Also eliminated teams are locked... Are those in 9-12 able to change stuff right now? Will they be able to pick up players and change things in an effort to avoid regulation through the consolation playoffs?
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:02 am

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Oh, that's not good.

If any L1 teams are locked for record-related reasons, let me know and I will see what can be done to unlock them, as teams in the consolation bracket should/must be allowed to still be competitive due to the regulation rules change.


EDIT: Never mind the above, I am a fool and found the toggle switch to just turn that off.
Eliminated teams should no longer be locked.
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:21 am

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I agree the eliminated should not be locked due to our regulation rules

I agree the other stuff should be looked at again next year, Even though person benefitting is me and people hurt would be possibly pooky, d3f, and you.

There is no gaurantee i will get a bye or the 3 seed, but things have been that way for years, so would be unfair to change it right now

Edit: its not possible this year with 6 seeds and all but in the past has it been possible for only 2 divisions to be represented in the playoffs? Given the seeding settings we have had for years and the 4 seeds we used to have, its mathmatically possible for 1 entire division to be outside top 4 or top 6 but it would be unlikly
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:09 am

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Division winners are guaranteed playoff berths under the current settings, they just aren’t guaranteed a top three seed. Can look at that in the off-season but seems like the impact of this is very limited.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:14 am

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In post 211, D3f3nd3r wrote:Division winners are guaranteed playoff berths under the current settings, they just aren’t guaranteed a top three seed. Can look at that in the off-season but seems like the impact of this is very limited.
Doesn't it matter a lot?

If I beat Kilga by less than 10, then PEG wins.

PEG wins division based on division record.

And then Kilga beats me for a tie.

And I miss the playoffs because I won, lol.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:18 am

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Like I'm seeded ahead of PEG by points scored.

But if the tiebreak is different...
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:22 am

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It could theoretically matter…if you and PEG both win, PEG wins the division and gets a guaranteed playoff berth. Without that guaranteed playoff berth, he could win and still finish in 8th (missing the playoffs).

Only world where you win and don’t make the playoffs is if Super outscores you by 45 (or Tally by 70, or peg by 115). Otherwise you’re fine.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:44 am

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In post 214, D3f3nd3r wrote:It could theoretically matter…if you and PEG both win, PEG wins the division and gets a guaranteed playoff berth. Without that guaranteed playoff berth, he could win and still finish in 8th (missing the playoffs).

Only world where you win and don’t make the playoffs is if Super outscores you by 45 (or Tally by 70, or peg by 115). Otherwise you’re fine.
Super and Poker winning guarantees them a spot at 9-5.

That's 4 spots guaranteed.

If PEG and I both win then PEG makes it based on division record.

That's 5 spots.

The 6th spot is Kilga and I both at 8-6. I'm 10 points behind Kilga. So unless I beat Kilga by more than 10 points Kilga takes 6th and I get 7th while winning despite being about 100 points ahead of PEG. Tally then gets 8th.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:46 am

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I can beat Kilga by 5 and unless I get help I am out which is hyper weird given I outscored someone by 100 points and they make it based on the luck of who they faced week to week.

Which wouldn't matter if it didn't put relegation on the table tbh? Like, being possibly relegated based on the luck of whether I beat my inner division randomly despite same record and outscoring someone by over 100 points is... Hmm.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:47 am

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Nothing to be done about it obviously but, it's something to look into for next year.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:55 am

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Wait yeah I didn’t realize that Poker/Super winning would make that irrelevant, oops
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:02 am

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https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.co ... ascum/2019

Digging back this did come up in 2019, Sharon won her division at 7-7 (ultimately winning the league) and snuck in over Tally who finished 8-6 and came in third in another division.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:14 am

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I've been ruined by choosing Deshaun Watson as my backup QB while Kyler Murray was on bye ;-; Dallas Defense almost bailed me out but peta had Taysom Hill catch the Saint's only touchdown to put me out of it.

I am playing Riven/Te Newb this week, but I'd need to win AND for one of peta (now D Adams Family)/Pabs to lose too to get the 2nd place bye, and if it's Pabs losing I'd also need to beat his point total by ~10.

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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:14 am

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Interesting weird settings we may want to address next year indeed thanks to Sharrons 2019 results and this years possibilities

Hope you do not get caught in a bad situation LLD. I got to try to win so I hope your end point total does not make you fall into that void.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:19 am

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I mean, it makes sense to me that each division winner should make the playoffs. Obviously we can look into it over the summer though.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:51 am

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In post 221, PokerFace wrote:Interesting weird settings we may want to address next year indeed thanks to Sharrons 2019 results and this years possibilities

Hope you do not get caught in a bad situation LLD. I got to try to win so I hope your end point total does not make you fall into that void.
Yeah everyone has to do their best to win. I'm just hoping that the peoole eliminated from the playoffs are in that same boat.

In the end, I need to beat Kilga by ten points, and I'm against him this week. My fate is somewhat in my own hands. While I hope I don't get a bad beat, there is only so much to be done
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:00 am

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In post 222, D3f3nd3r wrote:I mean, it makes sense to me that each division winner should make the playoffs. Obviously we can look into it over the summer though.
I think the tiebreaker for inner division tie for leader should be points scored like it is for general seeding. Like if 3 people in the division have 8-6 records the seedings should be based on how many points they scored overall during the season (in our current example where I beat Kilga but only by 5 points, the rankings would be Kilga 1, me 2, PEG 3.)

I'm fine with a division winner making playoffs but the internal tie breaker being "did you have your bad weeks/bye weeks vs your own division " instead of "how consistent were you?" makes no sense IMO
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