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Post Post #12 (isolation #0) » Sun May 06, 2018 5:21 am

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vote Not_Mafia


Hi all,

I am your friendly neighborhood IC. I'm here for any problems or questions you have - if it's about gameplay mechanics I will usually try and answer them as an IC, not as a player. However, I am also still a player in this game and I will also be playing the game.

There are some links here which will show you how I can help. If you need anything, ask me or the mod.

As an aside, I am a List Mod, but I cannot comment on anything about this game, or about bans that are/are not coming, so please don't ask.

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Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Sun May 06, 2018 5:22 am

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Most importantly -
POST


If you don't post, you starve town of information and you allow Mafia to go undetected. I don't like people spam posting, but lurking is also a bad idea.

Try not to drown out everyone in the game. Consider your responses carefully. Post when you need to post, not just for the sake of posting.
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Post Post #51 (isolation #2) » Sun May 06, 2018 9:03 pm

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In post 23, Morg wrote:
In post 22, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Which bug?
It was a bug that didn't let me post in this thread for quite sometime. Then I had to approach the admin for it.


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Also VOTE: Not_Mafia
what do you mean by fortold?
Were you wanting to carry on the wagon fam?
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Post Post #53 (isolation #3) » Sun May 06, 2018 9:38 pm

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because getting to third on an RVS wagon is pretty sus.
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Post Post #60 (isolation #4) » Mon May 07, 2018 12:43 am

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In post 56, Morg wrote:
In post 53, Nexus wrote:because getting to third on an RVS wagon is pretty sus.
He voted for me first.
so it wasn't a RVS vote?

unvote
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Post Post #65 (isolation #5) » Mon May 07, 2018 3:32 am

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In post 63, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 51, Nexus wrote:Were you wanting to carry on the wagon
fam
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Tempted to policy lynch this

but VOTE: Morg

Super srs vote
fite me
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Post Post #77 (isolation #6) » Mon May 07, 2018 7:43 am

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In post 72, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:If we had just restarted voting people who didn't post much, RVS could've been much more useful (and long).
No it wouldn't.
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Post Post #78 (isolation #7) » Mon May 07, 2018 7:44 am

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You don't need information on the set up on Day 1.

The only people who need information on the set up are the scum. Does that mean you are scum?
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Post Post #82 (isolation #8) » Mon May 07, 2018 8:30 am

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In post 80, Morg wrote:
In post 70, Marshmallow Marshall wrote: Nexus, I have similar concerns. Why does it bother you so much?
Hmm. I'll admit that Not_Mafia bothers me because he doesn't post much and he just voted for me twice without addressing any of my queries.

For Nexus, well, I'm not bothered but instead suspicious. I'm wondering if he voted me for RVS or he has other motives.
You know why i voted you. Stop being silly. You're caught, so if you wanna out your buddy, go ahead. (don't, actually, it's against site rules).
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Post Post #87 (isolation #9) » Mon May 07, 2018 8:38 am

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omg is it marsh and morg. M&M? Conspiracy.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #10) » Mon May 07, 2018 8:45 am

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In post 88, Morg wrote:I was having the same thought about you and Not_Mafia.
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Post Post #109 (isolation #11) » Tue May 08, 2018 6:17 am

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In post 100, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 99, bacy wrote:Given Nexus's experience I think his push on Morg is super weird, I've seen newish players being defensive about having votes on them even if they're town
Anyways, I don't think Morg's frustration and annoyance is faked here. And I don't think it's scummy either
This was my reason for the vote in a nutshell. Also I find that IC could bend town a bit as scum and a push will bring some info.
Are you his buddy?
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Post Post #111 (isolation #12) » Tue May 08, 2018 6:53 am

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I like you. You can stay.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #13) » Tue May 08, 2018 6:29 pm

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Any of them - they can either use their ability and kill, or just kill if they're a goon.
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Post Post #136 (isolation #14) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:30 am

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In post 135, Morg wrote:
In post 129, Crimson97 wrote:btw can any mafia take the kill here or only goons?
I think anyone should be able to make the kill. If the one with the ability dies, then the goon will still be able to make the kill. This night kill is the most powerful weapon of their's and I don't think it stops until all of them are dead.
In post 132, bacy wrote: Reaction testing yeah, maybe at the start. He doesn't address any content/questions as to why he's scumreading/tunneling Morg though, when a bunch of people pretty much "called him out" for the reason. I'd generally except at least some kind of clarification. That's at least weird, if not scummy.

As for the bloded part, you pretty much answered that in one of your previous posts. I think he's just wrapped up in playing defense and that's kinda all there is for now
I take it that he's an experienced player on the site and he must have some sort of plan. If he hard tunnels anyone which leads to their lynching he will have lot of explaining to do if that person flips town and it's kinda like bringing all the attention to yourself.
In post 130, Nexus wrote:Any of them - they can either use their ability and kill, or just kill if they're a goon.
Why did you need to repeat what I'd said earlier? Seems like an attempt to look useful.

If I hard tunnel on scum then I'm the towniest person here. Which is what I think is happening :)
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Post Post #138 (isolation #15) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:36 am

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My vote and his subsequent responses to my vote and my push do not convince me that he is town.
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Post Post #151 (isolation #16) » Wed May 09, 2018 7:32 am

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LAMIST = Look At Me I'm So Townie.

See: any and all of your responses to me, Morg. Aight?
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Post Post #160 (isolation #17) » Wed May 09, 2018 5:51 pm

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In post 158, Morg wrote:
In post 151, Nexus wrote:LAMIST = Look At Me I'm So Townie.

See: any and all of your responses to me, Morg. Aight?
I don't see anything wrong with them.

You are also playing the town card too much. It's not uncommon for people who have the most towniest of town read to flip scum, just saying.
Of course you don't. You think you're appearing town. Which is great. I disagree.
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Post Post #163 (isolation #18) » Thu May 10, 2018 4:57 am

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Would you like to comment further on the game state? You’re clearly keeping up.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #19) » Thu May 10, 2018 6:47 am

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In post 138, Nexus wrote:My vote and his subsequent responses to my vote and my push do not convince me that he is town.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #20) » Thu May 10, 2018 8:51 am

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In post 168, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 166, Nexus wrote:
In post 138, Nexus wrote:My vote and his subsequent responses to my vote and my push do not convince me that he is town.
That's vague. Why, EXACTLY? What is scummy in his answers? Being defensive? Town can be defensive too, you know. And I'm pretty sure you know it. So what bothers you so much?
It's bothering me less than you're bothering me, to be fair.

It's the fact that a townie person would probably just let it go and move on to something else, whereas Morg is insistent on proving that they look town.

unvote vote Marshmallow Marshall


See how this goes I guess.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #21) » Thu May 10, 2018 9:04 am

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Tarkus is definitely town, just saying.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #22) » Fri May 11, 2018 7:30 am

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In post 188, Not_Mafia wrote:I still want to lynch Morg
Join me.
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Post Post #206 (isolation #23) » Fri May 11, 2018 5:24 pm

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In post 194, Crimson97 wrote:I am gonna be voting just don't expect me to use it as a weapon on D1.
IC Hat
- that is literally the point of your vote. It is your weapon for scum hunting on day 1. Not voting is probably one of the worst things you could do.
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In post 204, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 201, Crimson97 wrote:Morg's behavior seems scummier imo overall but i'd be fine with a Marsh lynch too. I don't see them both being scum so if one flips scum the other one is probs town.
How did I suddenly become linked with Morg?
I think you are linked to him. Don't worry.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #24) » Sat May 12, 2018 5:34 am

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In post 209, Morg wrote:Tarkus is acting very scummy. Almost all of his posts are directed towards making me more scummier or buddying with Nexus. He accuses me because of my defensive behavior but a townie has to get defensive when he is in imminent danger of getting lynched. That's my crime for which I earned his vote. I'm pretty sure he will say stuff like my playstyle was giving him scummy vibes for which he voted for me when I flip town. So yes, feel free to ISO his posts and see it for yourself. How exactly he is helping town to scum hunt.

I feel like I have over reacted partly because I didn't know the meta of these players and so I gave them too much attention that they don't deserve. That has ended up in time loss and scums like Tarkus slipping under our radar.

If Tarkus was really actively scum hunting he'd instead pressurize people like Not_Mafia who is just posting one liners with no substantial value or question Nexus to put in actual questions rather than acting like a stubborn clingy child. Instead I'm the scum, for defending myself.

Tarkus also made some effort in dismissing suspicions on Nexus and both of them seem to have something going on. He says, Nexus's posts are jokey and to bring out reactions. But none of those posts were jokey at all. As for reaction test, they were more like persistently hanging on to someone's back until they drop. How does he not find it scummy if he was truly scum hunting.

He has also put some shade on Crimson but that was because he refused to vote. Voting or not is his decision and him not voting for anyone doesn't make them look scummy.

So for now Tarkus is my #2 suspicion. Nexus #1. Not_Mafia #3.

I feel like Nexus and Tarkus could be scum buddies. N_M might have created an opportunity for them to shift the attention to me.
UNVOTE: Not_Mafia
VOTE: Nexus
In post 185, Crimson97 wrote: What did you think foretold mean? Some kind of special ability N_M had? Also how did you think this could be used again later if you didn't address it?
About this, I was not referring to any ability. I was referring to the fact that he's so absolutely sure of the fact that I am indeed scum. To put that level of confidence in your very first post of the day and that too accusing someone without interrogating them or getting reads is something that I couldn't ignore. So I had to address it. But I didn't know he would be such a troll.
So anyone who thinks I'm town is scum?

This is not a good post. I think you are scared about the IC suspecting you and you are trying to get anyone to think you are scum. I think if I wasn't the IC, you wouldn't be so worried about my vote on you earlier - if I were an SE you wouldn't be as defensive.

So I'm probably going to shift my vote to you, like this:

unvote

vote: Morg


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Post Post #212 (isolation #25) » Sat May 12, 2018 5:35 am

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*trying to get anyone to think you are not scum by trying to essentially OMGUS me. Which I have also just done.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #26) » Sat May 12, 2018 6:08 am

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In post 207, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:...why? You can't just say you believe it, if my question is specifically WHY do people believe it.
Your interactions with him, regarding N_M and myself, are very coachy, which implies to me that you are buddies.

If you want me to pull up proper examples, just ISO yourself and ctrl+f "nexus", "not_mafia" or "morg"
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Post Post #220 (isolation #27) » Sat May 12, 2018 8:00 am

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oh newbie games have day talk now? cool.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #28) » Sat May 12, 2018 8:04 am

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In post 220, Nexus wrote:oh newbie games have day talk now? cool.
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Post Post #223 (isolation #29) » Sat May 12, 2018 8:32 am

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sry bae
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Post Post #225 (isolation #30) » Sat May 12, 2018 8:39 am

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I think it's an easy out if Morg's town.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #31) » Sat May 12, 2018 8:39 am

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"sry guys we needed info" etc etc
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Post Post #228 (isolation #32) » Sat May 12, 2018 8:41 am

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In post 93, ManateeDude wrote:I'm sorry guys, I haven't been as active as I like to be. For now my vote is going here:

VOTE: Nexus
Just noticed this parking of the vote and then doing fuck all. Hi buddy how we doing?
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Post Post #234 (isolation #33) » Sat May 12, 2018 9:06 am

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In post 230, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Not "sry guys we needed info". More like you will keep a focus on morg if he doesnt die. It'll drag attention away from the general game. And as I said he's my 4th suspect, so not THAT MUCH a town read. I would just not have him lynched if I was playing alone. (ik thats not logic)
Mate I had my vote on you. I was happy to let Morg lie. Then he was scummy again.

Now I'm calling out Manatee and then of course you come in to echo the same thing. Some original thought might be nice.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #34) » Sat May 12, 2018 9:07 am

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Anyone up for a threat to hammer to get the claim out?
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Post Post #242 (isolation #35) » Sat May 12, 2018 6:43 pm

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In post 240, Morg wrote:That's all I had to say. I'm done. Do what you guys might and be prepared for a rude awakening.

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If you are town you definitely should claim. It’s not a pro town thing to keep quiet.
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Post Post #243 (isolation #36) » Sat May 12, 2018 6:44 pm

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Assuming someone expresses an intent to hammer.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #37) » Sun May 13, 2018 11:11 pm

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In post 246, Morg wrote:
In post 211, Nexus wrote:
So anyone who thinks I'm town is scum?

This is not a good post. I think you are scared about the IC suspecting you and you are trying to get anyone to think you are scum. I think if I wasn't the IC, you wouldn't be so worried about my vote on you earlier - if I were an SE you wouldn't be as defensive.

So I'm probably going to shift my vote to you, like this:

unvote

vote: Morg


We'll see what happens.
Hah! This is by far THE most you have written so far. So you are finally talking. It's amazing how I confirm my suspicions on you and change my vote and you directly talk to me by quoting my post.
Don't worry I'm not claiming anytime soon. I have a very strict stance on not claiming my role.
Finally some fight. Its good not to claim if there's no intent to hammer.

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so as there is no lol hammer from a replacement.

Lets say both you and i are town, where would you go next?
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Post Post #252 (isolation #38) » Mon May 14, 2018 3:56 am

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Reads on Morg, myself and Marshmallow Marshall asap, please.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #39) » Mon May 14, 2018 5:05 am

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bacy, do you have anything to contribute to the game state?
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Post Post #278 (isolation #40) » Mon May 14, 2018 5:47 pm

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vote bacy


Do something.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #41) » Mon May 14, 2018 5:48 pm

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I wanted some reads on you and me because we were the biggest two wagons, and we need to encourage replacements to get a read on the game as quickly as possible.

Citizen is not a role in this game. If you mean Vanilla Townie then great, but citizen is not a role we often use on this site.
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Post Post #332 (isolation #42) » Wed May 16, 2018 6:30 am

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It seems the game has split into two factions.
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Post Post #333 (isolation #43) » Wed May 16, 2018 6:35 am

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unvote
as a side note my computer died. I will try to post again properly tomorrow.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #44) » Thu May 17, 2018 6:08 pm

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I'll be honest I think at this point we need to decide - Morg or me. It's unlikely anyone else is going to be run up, and if we continue to dither, the day will end in a no lynch, which is the worst possible result since it gains us no extra information.

Morg seems to have a habit of disappearing until any pressure is put on them, then they reappear for a flurry of posts. It's symptomatic of the state of the game, but given that there's no real active scumhunting going on from many people, it's enough for me to be happy to go on if the alternative is me.

Not_Mafia is town. I am 95% sure on this because of his play style. I don't think he'd be that audacious as scum. I like Tarkus for town and I like ceejayvinoya for town.

I am still convinced myself that MM and Morg are buddies, but I might just be stuck tunnelling.
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Post Post #379 (isolation #45) » Fri May 18, 2018 8:25 pm

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vote Morg


Please don't let today end in a no lynch.
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Post Post #384 (isolation #46) » Sat May 19, 2018 12:04 am

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Vanilla Townie, just before anyone lolhammers.
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Post Post #385 (isolation #47) » Sat May 19, 2018 12:06 am

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In post 194, Crimson97 wrote:I am gonna be voting just don't expect me to use it as a weapon on D1.
This is the only post that really pings me but that might be down to a different site culture.

I think he's been buddying with me slightly but I also think that's a natural thing for a Newbie to do.

I'd say if one of Morg/MM isn't scum, Crimson could be, but for D1 i'm not happy for him to be lynched.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #48) » Sat May 19, 2018 12:07 am

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His reads align with mine so obviously I think he's more likely to be town as I know what my alignment is.

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Nexus, Tarkus
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Post Post #394 (isolation #49) » Sun May 20, 2018 5:59 am

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Seems unfair to let a slot replace into an L-1 with hammer intent slot.

It's shitty play to lynch without a claim but I think it's even shittier to let someone join only to lynch them immediately anyway.
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Post Post #395 (isolation #50) » Sun May 20, 2018 5:59 am

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But the fact he has lurked out since being at L-1 implies to me he's scum who is caught and doesn't want to get his buddy caught on associative tells.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #51) » Sun May 20, 2018 6:58 am

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In post 363, Morg wrote:
In post 340, ceejayvinoya wrote:
Hooow about you morg? Do youuuu have a good read on rock???
I have got pretty much town reads from him. I can see that he's trying.
In post 342, Tarkus wrote:VOTE: Morg
Oh hey! Back to square one again.
In post 350, ceejayvinoya wrote: Have him pegged as scummy since his first post, That rxn from N_M's vote is too much to come from town. Didn't see anything redeeming from him either.
Oh no! Not this again.
This was his last post, which didn't really do much useful. A few posts later I make my post saying we need to lynch one or the other of us. I think at that point he realised it was probably going to be him, so he flaked.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #52) » Sun May 20, 2018 9:09 am

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It goes back to the being shitty to lynch a replacement, from a meta perspective, rather than a game based perspective.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #53) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:30 am

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The one advantage would be a claim.
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Post Post #434 (isolation #54) » Mon May 21, 2018 6:15 pm

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In post 432, ceejayvinoya wrote:Darn. Ejji is looking very town to me. UNVOTE:

Intent to hammer Nexus.
Superb.

My claim doesn't change. It would be a bad idea to lynch me.

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Post Post #435 (isolation #55) » Mon May 21, 2018 6:16 pm

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actually no

unvote vote Ejji
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Post Post #437 (isolation #56) » Mon May 21, 2018 6:43 pm

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i don't think their posts are that townie.
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Post Post #438 (isolation #57) » Mon May 21, 2018 6:44 pm

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active =/= townie
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Post Post #446 (isolation #58) » Mon May 21, 2018 9:29 pm

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The most recent posts are better.


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Post Post #464 (isolation #59) » Tue May 22, 2018 5:49 am

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In post 462, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Why are you pushing his lynch so hard? Looks like you're just trying to survive... but why would you do that as a vanilla townie?
Catch up buttercup. I've unvoted.

Obviously I'm trying to survive, why wouldn't I? I'm town. Seems counter intuitive to be like "loloklynchmethen"
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Post Post #470 (isolation #60) » Tue May 22, 2018 9:25 am

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Alignment indicative
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Post Post #483 (isolation #61) » Tue May 22, 2018 7:10 pm

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It’s in scums best interest to try and run up a third person to get a claim.

Also I doubt either of us would be the NK. We would be an easy lynch tomorrow
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Post Post #485 (isolation #62) » Tue May 22, 2018 7:20 pm

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Oh I misread your comment about the night kill. Sorry!
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Post Post #959 (isolation #63) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:10 am

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MM, you did really well.

Rockeater, you were superb. I didn't suspect you at all.

The rest of you were nice and active, and you all made intelligent points. Well done.
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