Newbie 1879 | Stuff I found Online III | Over

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Let's get started!
VOTE: Stasia

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i am disappointed with the level of activity in this game

Yeah me too. I just spend 48 hours at the hospital and nothing moved.

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Stasia sounds like stasis. My vote has jinxed the game! Let's spice this up a bit.
VOTE: Shorty

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1) I've played a single game, on this site.
2) Pretty much. I have a new baby but plenty of time to take care of him.
3) What's that?

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Bandwagon of a random vote is a scumtell, in my opinion, since a random vote has a 7/9 chance to hit town by definition. And there are better ways to spark discussions, really, like an RQS.

You don't have to go to the hammer, just squeezing to L-2 or L-1 could tell something. I agree it's not the best way, but it's a way.
Since Shorty is an hour away from being replaced, I will let the replacement have some room.
UNVOTE: Shorty

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ST(strong town)-{Osuka}
LT(Light town)-{manateedude, daskter, Pulsaris}
Null{Wavemode, Acid, sashaddin}
LS(light scum)-{Stasia}
SS(Strong scum)-{no one yet give me some spice}

I mostly agree, but I'd put Daskter as null as I am. I agree Stasia feels scummy and that no one appears

too

scummy. In light of all this,
VOTE: Stasia [L-2]

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surely you mean l-3

Oops! Indeed.

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Pulsaris, have you found someone scummier than me yet?
Asking for a friend.

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Sashaddin pushed the Shorty wagon and also voted Stasia... scum vibe? Or just being aggressive?

Trying to get things to move. If we don't push a bit, everyone stays at [L-4] and no one speaks. If we wagon a bit, we might see a tell or anything. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

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I'm trying to speed up activity to solve the game to finish the game

To prove my point above.

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I'm hesitant to join the Pulsaris wagon though, I think he has been pretty towny all along. Especially since he is voting for me right now and I don't think I'd be an interesting target for wolves for the moment. I can say almost the same about Eragon for identical reasons now.
Acid and Wave are unreadable for me for the moment.
Among the others, I could vote Stasia or Daskter without a second thought.

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Ok back from shit, I think sashaddin is the scum here. Mainly because im getting good town vibes from eragon. It just feels like lynchbait and scum pushing an easy ML

VOTE: sashaddin

I don't see the link between Eragon and me. A search of our ISOs don't reveal anything significant. Why is your opinion of me based on him?

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Well I'll be shocked if anybody hammers this.

I agree with you, and since having a single vote on anyone is pointless, I'll join the second wagon instead.
VOTE: Acidphoenix

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Hmmm... so that's it, the game is finished? We all know who's who without a doubt?

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Thanks, those 100+ posts since day 2 were getting heavy.

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tell me why we don't just kill manatee and wave and then win

I totally agree. Between the two, I'd start with Manatee, he looks scummier to me.

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VOTE: ManateeDude

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Idm being lynched,

That's the spirit!

but I see no reason with sashaddin not being a suspect. I feel they've flown under the radar the wnole time.

I know I'm town and Acid seems to believe so too. Plus, I'Ve been very towny I think.

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i mean, obviously from my point of view lynching manatee->sasha is 100% win

But we both agree on lynching manatee

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why am i the only one who cares about eragon spew

Eragon's stuff makes me think it's Wave, but the general game makes me think it's Manatee. Still, I prefer multiple sources than a single one, so I'm sticking with Manatee.

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we have 14 days and i don't plan on hammering anytime soon ftr

What made you change your mind?

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surely you mean l-3

Oops! Indeed.

@Daskter Never to L-1, not even L-2!

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Oh I read Stasia. Anyways, I'm pretty sure I was third Eragon's wagon too, not fourth, if that can change anything for you.

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I believe we're lynching Manatee then Sashaddin, this is relying on the fact wavemode is a townie.

Then Manateee has to be the one we are looking for, because lynching me on a lylo would make us lose the game..

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@Plotinus: If you ever find a fun-looking tumbleweed, now would be a good moment to post it.

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Daskter and I want to lynch you, then Wave and I will probably shout each other out.
How do you see this?

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After my lynch, I think your the obv choice for lynch, you've ridden this game too easily imo

Obvious != right, unfortunately. I may have had it easy, but that doesn't make me the wolf.
Daskter and Acid are town. I know I am town too. Wave or you are a wolf, and we have two days to lynch so we should win.
By the way if you guys intend to lynch me, make it today not tomorrow, so you can still have a real shot on Day 4.

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make it today not tomorrow,

...make it Day 3 not Day 4...

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sasha does not vote on day 2, nor post at all until twilight ?

I didn't want to hammer Pulsaris, who looked townie to me, and my read on Manatee was not as strong as it is now. I feel not voting is as important as voting.
As for the absence of posts, my wife gave birth on June 29th and our schedule is head over heels right now. Maybe I didn't come here for a few days.
I agree that there wasn't much going on Day 1 and that reads are hard.

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ST(strong town)-{Osuka}
LT(Light town)-{manateedude, daskter, Pulsaris}
Null{Wavemode, Acid, sashaddin}
LS(light scum)-{Stasia}
SS(Strong scum)-{no one yet give me some spice}

Osuka-IME this is obvious town and his posts are pro-town, he is sounding good, and acting town.

Manateedude-ive gotten a few towny pings but not enough to make strong town

Daskter-im assuming he is a newbie, and if that is the case, then he is pretty towny and he is trying to help town

Pulsaris-more or less mind-melding a lot

Wavemode and Acid- I would like to see more content from them but I cant SR for no content. They might be part of the “scum laying under the radar”

Sashaddin-few pings but gave them a derp clear on a few things

Stasia- only reason they aren’t SS is because they are new

Osuka and Pulsaris died for being too towny.
Sky died for being a Doc.
So that leaves:

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My forum-fu is not too good...

LT: {Manatee and Daskter}
Null: {Wave, Acid and Sashaddin}

Since we know Acid and Daskter are town, this leaves 1 person in LT and 2 in Null. Where did Eragon put his buddy? My money is on the LT slot.

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sasha does not vote on day 2

Manatee votes 4th on each wagon.

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imagine you're in a 3-way duel and each person has just one bullet

I shoot the bullet on the ground then walk away, removing myself from the situation without risk.

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I have Sash as strong town based on this page alone.

I like your thinking.

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Like they havent really contributed tooo much, but was never pushed and mostly ignored by eragon who always takes a stance on his buddies.

This is only my second game, I don't have much to say but I share all I can. Btw, my wife gave birth recently, my free time has been cut a lot.
If people don't push me, doesn't it mean they see me as town?
Eragon was putting me at null, that's not a stance. Well maybe a weak one.

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Have you seen anything townish from Wave?

I Iso'ed him and found nothing of interest. A lot of his help comes from being IC imho, until Day 3. Nothing too towny nor scummy to me. But the way Manatee always try to get people's attention on me (with weak reads) when I got none makes me think that he might think he has found a good scapegoat in me. But I can't say I give 100% probability for Wave to be town.

So I'd like to lynch Manatee today, followed by Wave if necessary.

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VOTE: Wavemode for [L-1]
I would have liked Manatee first but as you said we still have another day to win.

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You have any justification for this besides "welp fuck it" ?

Besides wanting this game to go faster? Nope. My vote would have stayed on Manatee but I thought we could reach a consensus around lynching you faster than Manatee.

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It was more of a meta-decision than a game-decision.

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I find suspicious that Wavemode votes 9 minutes after being pushed to L-1.

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UNVOTE: Wave

Was it because of me?

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I find suspicious that Wavemode votes 9 minutes after being pushed to L-1.

Yeah your timing with that was nice. It's not at all suspicious that you take me to L-1 minutes after I release my dossier on scumteam interaction, targeted at you

I must admit it's a good piece of work. Didn't see the irony there, good point!

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Alright, Wave.

If you're town, we lynch Sasha.

Okay?

If he's scum he'll lynch me too, no?
I concede that switching my vote to Wavemode was not the smartest thing to do in this context. Sorry to let the team down!

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I don't know what you're talking about.

From post 531 to ...

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Manatee attracts frequently the attraction on me with weak reads. He also never appeared too high on the town list of other people. He was the L-1 vote of Day 1 and Day 2.

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I don't know what this means. Can you clarify?

The posts 394, 396, 423+425, 432, 489, 493. He speaks of me exclusively for all this time but the only reason he gives is that I was a wagon with someone else. I find it weak.

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I dont love the pulsaris wagon, but I dont mind their lynch as it provides a lot pf associations. Idm bringing it to L-1.

VOTE: pulsaris

This flew under my radar. Hmmm....

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Manatee was at L-1 on D1 and D2?

No, I mean he was the next to last vote each time.

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Besides coasting and doing next to nothing this game? Not taking a stance or posting at all on day 2 when Eragon fakeclaimed cop, then showing up minutes into twilight with "welp, guess the games solved now." Currently having extreme amounts of exactly what you claimed you scumread me for this gameday, which is apathy? Apathy to the game state, apathy to the lynch, apathy to evidence.

1. I coasted because no one challenged me until now. Well, Manatee tried.
2. I missed that fake claim, but since I'm a Vanilla Townie I wouldn't have been able to prove him wrong. Plus, many people here didn't come for 48 hours either, that's not a scum tell to me.
3. I don't think I express apathy. I tried to explain my reasoning and and my thoughts, even if I don't have the same experience or a background as extensive as yours. I even changed my vote so we could have a lynch!
4. I don't see much evidence. I still think Manateee is scummier than you are for the reasons I posted. But I don't see your shouting match with Shoshin as too towny either.

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@Plotinus: If you ever find a fun-looking tumbleweed, now would be a good moment to post it.

At that point, 5 people were 1 day and 18 hours or more absent, (Plotinus included!), per the chart. I was the only one < 24 hours. I don't think you have a point on this one.

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what do you mean I don't have a point?

I wasn't speaking about the false claim, I was speaking about players being away for a while.

Off-Topic: Are you an electrical engineer?

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I think sashaddin is the scum here. Mainly because im getting good town vibes from eragon

Because of this part. I didn' know why my evaluation depended of Eragon. He answered a bit later, saying we were both on the Stasia wagon.

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Why'd you bold "too"? At this point in the game, why'd you townread Osuka, Manatee, and Pul

Bold: Because I couldn't find a player that was wayyyy scummier than the others, to place in Strong Scum.
I think I tried to catch up many pages at once because I wasn't here much. I don't think I did the most useful things, but I tried to do something. Osuka was already fairly townish at that point iirc, but I wanted more on the others. This was many diapers ago, pardon my failing memory.

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Time for some action!
VOTE: ManateeDude
As long as Manatee and/or Wave are lynched, Town wins. Shoshin, Acid, if you please...

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If this isnt scum fml

Nah, it's someone who's getting bored. Can't say the discussion progressed a lot last 4 days. Since Wave is already on you, I'm giving the hammer to eilther of the conftowns.

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Thanks for filling up, and good reading!

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Why did you think the game had ended here?

Iirc, I hadn't logged on for like 2 days and I was welcomed with many pages, and the first post I read, (the latest at that time) was about telling who was who (Doc, Tracker etc.) So I was wtf... and posted that.

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God how I wish I could lynch all 4 other players right now

Nuke us from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nuke-it-from-orbit

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why am i the only one who cares about eragon spew

Eragon's stuff makes me think it's Wave, but the general game makes me think it's Manatee. Still, I prefer multiple sources than a single one, so I'm sticking with Manatee.

Can you elaborate on this please?

I'll refer you to posts 502 and 555 for the multiple sources.
I must also state that I had missed most of the discussion on that Day, so my value of Eragon's nonsense was obscured. I'm pretty sure about what I've said about Manateee though.

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I just went of Sashaddin's ISO and wanna lynch him now too, gawd

Nope! I give a probability of 75% that Manatee will flip red. If that's not the case, you will want Wavemode to be lynched, not me.
Wow I reallly hope it's Manatee, else I'll be in a shouting match against the IC...

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I see the stuff about Manatee, but what about Eragon's interactions with wave makes you think wave is his partner?

In 284 he classes Wave as LT, in 306 he moves him to town, hiding him with the other ones. In fact I'm in line with Manatee's 300 on this one.

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If you lynch me just promise to lynch sasha

From my point of view, if I get lynched on Day 4, Town will lose the game. Not what I'd like. If I have to get lynched, at least make it today so you can see I'll flip green and act accordingly.
What I mean is rank me scum #1 or #3, but #2 loses us the game if scum is Wave instead of Manatee.

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200 was something I brought up in 618 and is one of the reasons I'm so paranoid about the Sashaddin slot

Yeah, you'd think he'd insert his partner into one of that 3 guys. And since the other two are gone, you think I'm the scum that's left. But what if he put 3 townies in that subset? (He did)

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True. Eragon also says he won't put Pulslaris to L-1, which is a weird move for scum imho. Enter Manatee dude whos IS the L-1 vote on both previous days.

The more I read it the more I think Eragon simply spouted nonsense that we're trying to decipher. I don't see it as a single coherent story.

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Eragon is desperate and its becoming more and more apparent. Probable buddys with wavemode, for putting him in his Town bracket with little explanation.

But ususally, Manatee says I am the scum. One of the rare times that someone else than me is in his sight.

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Thanks!