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[xx2008]

Hello!
VOTE: inferno
I played my first game on this site with you as my scumpartner.

[xx2008]

I remember last game I was with some of you all, and even though I didn't have time and had to replace out, I found it fun.
Hello to you all again!
And hello to the new people that I havent played a game with yet!

[xx2008]

I remember hearing pocketed before , but I forgot what it meant. What does pocket mean again?

[xx2008]

I remember hearing pocketed before , but I forgot what it meant. What does pocket mean again?

Pocketing is when scum buddies up to a townie, and the townie ends up protecting the scum a lot because they’re convinced they’re town.

@inferno - I got pocketed and killed off the last night before Lames won a scum game in our last game.

Jones, Lames, Myself, and XX were all in it. Xx replaced out late at 1, though.

Thanks!

[xx2008]

FL is the goat, but his so easy to pocket lol.

What’s that supposed to mean?

It was another reference to last game!

That was the last reference from my side, promise.

Same, I think this post doesnt seem natural. Especially the bolded portion.

[xx2008]

I feel that RVS shouldn't be force-ended, and it will end naturally once we have some information.

[xx2008]

I feel that RVS should end naturally, when we have some players that we think could be scum. But when we force-end it, we're ending it without enough information and reactions. I think RVS is a fairly important stage in the game, for it allows us to watch reactions. We can't really vote with logic if we don't have enough reactions from players.

[xx2008]

I think it can go either way. When it ends, it ends.

I think we’ve ended.

VOTE: Xx

Flavor: Ehile I see the comparison that you’re making, I think that there is a difference between your post and Lames. Yours was pretty clearly a direct response to me. Lames feels kind of randomly put out there.

Flavor: Some context on that vote please? Do you think Xx is scum trying to play off of something so said and looking for a mislynch, or you don’t like this train of thought, or what?

I suppose it really is over now.

[xx2008]

RVS does need to end at some point, for if we are on RVS too long, nothing happens, so I agree we can end RVS when we need to. With the recent posts, I think it's over now. It was quite short of an RVS.
For me, RVS typically ends the same way.

[xx2008]

RVS does need to end at some point, for if we are on RVS too long, nothing happens, so I agree we can end RVS when we need to. With the recent posts, I think it's over now. It was quite short of an RVS.
For me, RVS typically ends the same way.

[xx2008]

LOL my computer posted it twice.

[xx2008]

FL is the goat, but his so easy to pocket lol.

What’s that supposed to mean?

It was another reference to last game! That was the last reference from my side, promise.

Thinking again, I think this is a towny post. Continuously referencing past games and not moving on with the current game hinders progress, despite referencing past games to learn about playstyles being helpful. So, some references is okay, but too many would clog things up.

[xx2008]

Back out?
When did I say I was backing out?

See, now you really ARE trying too hard.
VOTE: Lamees

srs vote

Seeing this post, I sort of feel that you are scum trying to push a lynch on Lamees by trying to end RVS earlier than usual. That was a very brief RVS, much, much shorter than those on my two previous games on this website. As I've said, RVS is necessary to get reactions from people, and should not be force-ended. It ends when it ends. But now that RVS is over, of course there's no point in starting it up again.

[xx2008]

@littlemafiagamer I was declaring RVS to be over, because after inferno and flavor's posts, things got moving.

[xx2008]

In response to James:
At the vote count of page 4 that you mention, there were two votes against Lamees. Two votes are a wagon?
At that time, there were also two votes (a "wagon", if you will) against xx2008. How did you (

James

) choose Lamees over xx2008?

name came first before xx2008

I almost want to Townread you on this post alone.

Why? I think RVS should be over at this point.

[xx2008]

I think you should have a reason for voting people now, so it shouldn't be random that you're going after people with wagons.
For inferno vs lamees earlier, I think it is TvS. It is definitely not SvS, because scum probably wouldn't start bussing like that. In my first game I was scum, and I generally avoided interactions with inferno (my scum partner) as much as possible, so as not to attract attention.

[xx2008]

I feel that RVS shouldn't be force-ended, and it will end naturally once we have some information.

Xx wins a town point here.

Imo scum is more lax in rvs and the potential for AI posts is surprisingly high.

Flavor's declaration of RVS being over (indicated by his "serious" vote on xx) comes off odd to me with how little support he put behind the vote. The irony is that the vote itself seems forced.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

What information can we get from RVS?

Plenty.

• Reactions from players - a new scum player will tend to get extremely defensive if placed on L-1 for instance
  
• Observations of players behaviour - anyone standing out as a VI? anyone who obviously has something to hide? anyone who is trying too hard?
  
• and in future days, I find it sometimes helps to go back and look at who said what day 1 in light of flips

I agree with this. However, now I suppose RVS has officially ended, or is at least close to ending. Once it's ending or beginning to end, there's no point in starting RVS back up. I don't even know how to restart RVS without starting a new game.

[xx2008]

@RCEnigma

Are you referring to #88?

As for the sheeping on the read, I think Flavor's response is genuine enough - (although I wish he'd say

how

you can tell when town is doing it) but LMG's... not so sure.

I got a bit of a LAMIST vibe too from xx2008. Why did he declare random voting to be over? I think I'm changing my vote.

I fail to see the connection between LAMIST = ending random voting. If anything, I think scum would prefer town to get bogged down in RVS for like 9 days, then quicklynch someone in the last 24 hours . So, I think exiting RVS in a timely fashion is something towny - assuming it is exited with enough information to start off with. So in this case, I don't see why declaring random voting to be over (which xx didn't do) = LAMIST, and this feels tbh a bit opportunistic.

Why I thought xx's posts were LAMIST was primarily the tone of the posts - the overabundance of "we" in #53 especially. Basically, he seems to be trying to hard to reinforce the notion that he is town.

to be clear, XX didn't say "RVS is now over" - he said "I suppose it [RVS] is really over".It looks to me more an

observation

than a

declaration

if you notice the distinction?

Now this post here is townleaning. Jones is really delving into the details of my posts, which little details can mean a lot.
Now, being towny does come out naturally, so there's no point in trying to look town intentionally, but I don't think there can be someone who is "overly towny". A very towny player might end up making LAMIST posts. In #53, there was really no other way for me to state what I wanted to state without using we's, because it's not possible to play mafia all by yourself.