Newbie 1901 (Game Over!)

[Bulbazoor]

VOTE: Bulbazoor because Pikachu is better

everyone always rvses me with a pokemon joke lol. How convenient this game started when I sleep.

I'll VOTE: muh because I'm picky and like voting people for their rvs reasons

[Bulbazoor]

muh and flavor are among the people I want to lynch today already. VOTE: flavor

[Bulbazoor]

VOTE: Vorkuta

Why?

I hadn’t RVS’d yet.

This post smelled of " oh I'll just RVS for the sake of it" rather than to get reactions out of someone.

[Bulbazoor]

VOTE: Guten tag for not confirming yet

Voting someone for not confirming seems like setting up for a later push on them solely for not confirming early. Guten sounds pretty genuine so far to me. And look at how Flavor tried to vote me for me voting him. It wasn't a forced and weak push. It was an attempt to gouge your reactions and so far you aren't reacting well. Rapidly anger-voting me when I call you out is not a good thing to do. You got defensive as soon as I started attempting to pressure you.

[Bulbazoor]

How is me trying to get a read scummy? It frustrates me when people push me for trying to escalate the game past RVS stage

[Bulbazoor]

I only recently came back. That's why

[Bulbazoor]

Flicker why are you mad that I tr guten and wouldn't want him today?

[Bulbazoor]

An early bw on someone who has been talking isn't exactly the best thing to initiate. Especially since I already have pressure on me for my RVS votes.

[Bulbazoor]

Well someone has to unvote at some point because it makes no sense to lynch this quickly.

[Bulbazoor]

yes. if it was on someone I townread. BUt for me, it's natural to get defensive because I know I am town.

[Bulbazoor]

I don't know if I trust town if they were willing to lynch me as town. It's a part of me to hate being lynched in any case

[Bulbazoor]

I stand by what I wrote. Unfortunately the probability (22%) of randomly catching scum on the first day is more than that (20%) of randomly guessing based on the bandwagon after someone flips green. I like my odds, and bulbasaur is responding quite selfishly and anti-towny. Almost even contrary to the town's win condition....

Well I think voting Guten for not confirming early was a bad reason. I'll admit I shouldn't tr him atm. I tr flicker because she seems to be trying to solve the game and called to question my bad TR which I'll now backtrack on because there are way townier people. I like flavor unvoting me.

Vork, nothing about what I said was antitown. How is me not wanting to get lynched as town antitown?

[Bulbazoor]

What personal vendetta? Lol

[Bulbazoor]

If town sucked enough to lynch me, they don't deserve my trust. Simple as that.

[Bulbazoor]

huh how am I pushing fora quick lynch?

[Bulbazoor]

I am trying to emphasize the importance of not having this complacent mindset of thiking it's protown to allow yourself to get lynched as town. Also, I jus saw your post muh.

What bro? I saw that post and responded to it. What pinged your scumdar?

To whoever questioned me for being cynical and jaded, this is me. I'm not going to flip my playstyle to make it easy on you guys. I expect logical reasining and towniness from you guys.

[Bulbazoor]

I never said " oh lets rapid lynch. In fact, my posts state that I dislike rapid bws.

[Bulbazoor]

UNVOTE:

[Bulbazoor]

protown to allow yourself to get lynched as town

For a worthy cause it is. Like if we have a solid and foolproof contingency plan that guarantees us scum the next day for what happens when you flip green.

Why are we debating this in the first place?

[Bulbazoor]

Is everyone else asleep? Been a while since I did one of these readlists.

Emperor flippyNips
Vorkuta
2ndStoryWindow
muh316
Guten tag

I am here so far in terms of people I'd be happy with lynching. Guten needs to speak up. 2ndstory, so do you. I want to hear all of what you guys have to say.

[Bulbazoor]

How is Vorkuta town? I have a hard time reading him since I have a hard time trying to gauge why he'd want to flatter you the way he did in a game.

[Bulbazoor]

Hell no. You wouldn't get away with not talking. I'd have been the first one on you for that.

[Bulbazoor]

As scum, I could just not talk, and get away with hiding behind people.

[Bulbazoor]

Before I say anything else, I want guten and emperor to talk a bit more. I already gave a pool of people I have a null read on.

[Bulbazoor]

I don’t see how this makes a case for me not wanting to lynch you. As town myself, this is literally an ideal scenario. If I’m wrong and you are town, we’ll get a lot of info. That’s fine, can’t always lynch scum on Day 1. If you are scum, I don’t quite mind the lack of info. We’d be one step closer to winning, and we’d have a few more days, as well as info from nightkills, to rely off of to catch your partner.

Also, claiming you want to be alive is redundant; everyone wants to stay alive.

How would we be lacking info from a scum flip? Why is lynching town a good idea to you?

For the bolded part, my first thought was "wasn't this the guy that was trying to be town hero by saying he'd let himself die?" That post did not sound like you wanting to be alive.

Ok, moving on to the next few new posts. Sorry, just felt the need to point out the bad logic behind this post right here.

[Bulbazoor]

Is everyone else asleep? Been a while since I did one of these readlists.

Emperor flippyNips
Vorkuta

2ndStoryWindow

muh316
Guten tag

I am here so far in terms of people I'd be happy with lynching. Guten needs to speak up. 2ndstory, so do you. I want to hear all of what you guys have to say.

I'll put 2ndstory as a tr for now.

[Bulbazoor]

VOTE: Guten tag I am all for this. Not turbolynching but pressuring

[Bulbazoor]

UNVOTE:

[Bulbazoor]

VOTE: muh

That line casting doubt on the doc claim sucked.

[Bulbazoor]

But why would you cast doubt on a claim made by someone I assume to be new to the game?

[Bulbazoor]

I am pretty certain muh is not a towny. I don't buy the suspicion he puts into the claim. Just doesn't come across as genuine

[Bulbazoor]

Didn't expect to be prodded tbh. I don't really have much else to add to this. So I wanna do something that involves asking me questions about anything you have doubts about today regarding me.

[Bulbazoor]

I still get the sense muh is trying to push on the claim. It rings my weird radar.

[Bulbazoor]

Guten is just a noob

[Bulbazoor]

Much seems so forced. I'm not voting vorkuta as of yet.

[Bulbazoor]

I want a good logical reason on why muh is town

[Bulbazoor]

I don't like muh's tone. Though I do think vork is scummy too.

[Bulbazoor]

Prodge

[Bulbazoor]

Ok guys. Why wasn't doc claim killed?

[Bulbazoor]

Why was vorkuta nked. Wasn't he the other bw that I didn't want to join?

[Bulbazoor]

I want a good logical reason on why muh is town

I held off on responding to this when it came up (mainly because Alonzo asked for a reason he’s scummier than Vorkuta, Bulba replied saying Vorkuta was scummy too, and at the time I wanted Vorkuta lynched), so call me a hypocrite for doing it now, but-

All of muh’s posts were genuine. If you didn’t see it then, I implore you to reread the thread and convince yourself otherwise. The fact that muh was my sure-fire townread and you’ve been pushing him all game earn you my vote.

VOTE: Bulba

Your reasons for voting me are awful. You imply I can't have a wrong read on someone. Muh didn't seem as genuine back then. My opinion is that you are basing this on hindsight because of his town flip. Your basis for voting me sucks because you assumed I knew he was flipping town or something. And if you thought he was so genuine, why didn't you respond to what made him town? When I posted about it.?

[Bulbazoor]

TBF the fact that I am your best scumread here when my push seemed in no way forced makes me angry.

[Bulbazoor]

Also, I don't see you ever defending him other than calling someone else's vote o him comical. Why defend him now? This screams hindsight to me

[Bulbazoor]

You can't assume he was a universal townread or something

[Bulbazoor]

You can't assume he was a universal townread or something

But I can assume you’re scum for repeatedly pushing him when he didn’t do anything scummy...

I did not like his push on the doc claim when he could have been real. How hard is that to understand? I went blind to anything else because that just seemed like something that didn't have to be done.

[Bulbazoor]

Hello

[Bulbazoor]

I never once stated I fosed work though. I am confused as to why you think I fosed him?

[Bulbazoor]

I didn't say fos. I said I thought he was scummy.

[Bulbazoor]

Alonzo seemed very genuine with his last post

[Bulbazoor]

I'll be making a decision tomorrow. The doc claim still feels genuine and I wonder why flavor has him in his srs?