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Post Post #18 (isolation #0) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:51 am

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VOTE: cbynumber

everyone who already posted is town
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Post Post #158 (isolation #1) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:54 am

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Sorry grad auditions and forgot to bookmark this post catching up
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Post Post #159 (isolation #2) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:55 am

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In post 21, TTTT wrote:
In post 18, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: cbynumber

everyone who already posted is town
explain skitter TR plz
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Post Post #160 (isolation #3) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:03 pm

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In post 93, NotMySpamAccount wrote:MJL seems town, since she's making reasonable arguments. Outcome doesn't look threatening. If anyone else wants to get onboard with at least pressuring these people, now's your chance.

VOTE: Tall1s
Why does reasonable arguments make them town?

Mary is probably scum tbh, I don’t like her noncommittal posts.
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Post Post #161 (isolation #4) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:07 pm

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Salami wagon is garbage
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Post Post #162 (isolation #5) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:08 pm

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VOTE: MaryJoOsmont
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Post Post #176 (isolation #6) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:28 pm

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In post 167, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
BBmolla wrote:VOTE: MaryJoOsmont
MaryJoLisa2 wrote:BBmolla is probably not scum.
Someone votes her and she doesn't question it, and even townreads him for it. That's suspicious enough to warrant a vote.

VOTE: MaryJoLisa2
In post 171, Elements wrote:
In post 160, BBmolla wrote:I don’t like her noncommittal posts.
I agree with this, but I don't think it necessarily signifies scum any more than it does a tentative newbie going through all possibilities
She is confident in her noncommital posts which is offputting.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #7) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:30 pm

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NotMy, did Mary’s single post not questioning me outdo everything that was involved in your townread of her? That’s a quick turnaround.
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Post Post #242 (isolation #8) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:42 pm

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In post 238, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:9. BBmolla (SE) – Scum lean. No actual scum hunting and limited interactions with everyone else. The salami wagon was garbage comment in #161 with no follow-up doesn’t sit well with me.
Salami has done nothing scummy and reacted genuinely to his garbage wagon
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Post Post #243 (isolation #9) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:43 pm

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someone just let me know if skitter is scum or town I've been skimming most of those walls
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Post Post #244 (isolation #10) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:44 pm

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In post 201, Elements wrote:Town Read:
TTTT

Town Lean:
NotMySpamAccount, cbynumber

Null:
BBmolla, skitter30

Scum Lean:
Salami

Scum Read:
MaryJoLisa2


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you seriously don't have anything on me bro?
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Post Post #245 (isolation #11) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:45 pm

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In post 182, Elements wrote:@BBmolla what are your thoughts on TTTT?
i didn't like their posts but I'm waiting to see if it's cause they're scum or it's their personality
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Post Post #246 (isolation #12) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:46 pm

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In post 183, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:I believe the lynch occurs when 5 players vote for the same person, up until 10 days. After 10 days, majority rules.
This is wrong, if we don't come up with a majority the day ends in a no lynch.

It's mathematically un-ideal.
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Post Post #247 (isolation #13) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:48 pm

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In post 189, Salami wrote:
In post 186, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:You're misreading me. That's not what I'm saying.

Look at it from the perspective that Salami is scum (which we do not know). IF Salami is scum and BBmolla is his scum partner, then we will be able to see in retrospect (after the game) that BBmolla was removing the wagon from his scum partner. If Salami is town and BBmolla is scum, then BBmolla's effort to move the wagon off Salami doesn't make sense because he had an easy mislynch all lined up for himself when he logged in.

If we were to lynch Salami and Salami flipped scum, then we might reasonably look to BBmolla who moved the wagon off Salami, but that still doesn't mean that BBmolla is scum. He might have just been town trying to latch onto what would be for him a more logical target.

If you decide to lynch me and I flip green (and I will), then I would start looking much more carefully at Salami and BBmolla. Salami for the reasons I stated in previous posts (his play doesn't seem newbish), and BBmolla for possibly (but not certainly) protecting a scum partner.
BBmolla didn't move the wagon off me, he was originally voting for cbynumber and then voted for you. Your reasoning is becoming really stupid and longwinded, I'm town so it's impossible for BB and myself to be a scumteam and it's premature for you to speculate on partners until one of the scum has actually been lynched.
In post 187, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:
In post 185, Elements wrote:
In post 183, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:I believe the lynch occurs when 5 players vote for the same person, up until 10 days. After 10 days, majority rules.
after 10 days, no lynch.
It is much more beneficial for town to keep the day going for as long as sensibly possible so there are lots of interactions to analyse and longer for scum to slip up
I think we should keep talking until Tall1s is replaced and then do a lynch. Even if it's a mislynch, we'll have gathered some useful evidence to work with.
Sounds like you already know I'm going to flip town.
like come on this shit is town
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Post Post #248 (isolation #14) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:48 pm

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In post 193, cbynumber wrote:
In post 191, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:I think even if there's a
mislynch
, the
remaining scum member
performs a nightkill.

Yes, but the information we gather will all be based on hunches. I'm not really sure what the best course of action is.
What?
UNVOTE: Elements
VOTE: MaryJoLisa2
lmao that's probably a legit slip tbh
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Post Post #260 (isolation #15) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:07 pm

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In post 253, skitter30 wrote:null: bbmolla
??????????????????????
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Post Post #282 (isolation #16) » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:44 am

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In post 268, skitter30 wrote:
In post 260, BBmolla wrote:
In post 253, skitter30 wrote:null: bbmolla
??????????????????????
A) you've not done much ai imo, tbh, or at least not in ways i can read

B) how do u think i should be reading you, and why?
I've given very polarizing opinions, I don't understand how people don't get any sort of lean from me either way.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #17) » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:46 am

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Hello Mr. R
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Post Post #315 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:25 am

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I’m still content with a Mary lynch.

I could live with a skitter lynch too. I’m not getting any sort of townvibes.
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Post Post #427 (isolation #19) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:19 am

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I'm still pretty great with my vote but a skitter vote also looks pretty nice
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Post Post #429 (isolation #20) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:27 am

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In post 428, Elements wrote:
In post 427, BBmolla wrote:I'm still pretty great with my vote but a skitter vote also looks pretty nice
You come back after over 100 posts and that's all you have to say?
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Post Post #431 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:01 am

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lmao

what do you even want to know, I think the two current wagons are on the scummiest players
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Post Post #433 (isolation #22) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:10 am

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In post 432, Elements wrote:
In post 431, BBmolla wrote:lmao

what do you even want to know, I think the two current wagons are on the scummiest players
I want you to actually help the game progress. And randomly popping up every 100 posts saying "seems good" is not helpful at all.
Why not? If the game is going the way I think is correct than why spam the thread?
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Post Post #440 (isolation #23) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:29 am

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In post 438, Elements wrote:
In post 433, BBmolla wrote:
In post 432, Elements wrote:
In post 431, BBmolla wrote:lmao

what do you even want to know, I think the two current wagons are on the scummiest players
I want you to actually help the game progress. And randomly popping up every 100 posts saying "seems good" is not helpful at all.
Why not? If the game is going the way I think is correct than why spam the thread?
Having just gone through your ISO, you have made a grand total of 4 noticeable remarks all game.
1) MJL is probs scum because of non-committal posts
2) Salami is town because of genuine reactions
3) How come no one has any reads on me?
4) I'm happy with a skitter/MJL lynch
It's almost like you're scum letting us lynch MJL/skitter who you know are town.
What makes it seem like that as opposed to town who doesn’t want to spam the thread because the votes are on the right people?
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Post Post #472 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:29 am

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In post 443, Elements wrote:
In post 245, BBmolla wrote:
In post 182, Elements wrote:@BBmolla what are your thoughts on TTTT?
i didn't like their posts but I'm waiting to see if it's cause they're scum or it's their personality
Have you come up with anything for this?
for example
Seems like their personality to me. Nothing else has pinged me.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:31 am

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In post 445, skitter30 wrote:Also the fact that he's ok with *my* lynch isn't really the problem i'm having; i don't really care if he thinks that (notice how i'm not pushing you or elements rn; you both scumread me)
The problem is that he'w fine with both competing wagons with no prefeence really between the two of them (incidentally one of which happens to be on me; if he had said the samr thing about two other competing wagons, neithr of which were on me, i'd be making the same protest)
“He has no preference even though he is voting one of the two he thinks is scum”

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Post Post #474 (isolation #26) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:32 am

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In post 448, Elements wrote:surely he also wouldn't play so scummily
What is scummy about my play?
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Post Post #477 (isolation #27) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:35 am

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I tend to go inactive when things seem to be going in the right direction

I can try to find an example but people voting those I actually think are scum is uncommon this early
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Post Post #479 (isolation #28) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:37 am

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In post 475, Elements wrote:
In post 474, BBmolla wrote:
In post 448, Elements wrote:surely he also wouldn't play so scummily
What is scummy about my play?
your general air of "yea everything seems fine so i'm not going to mess it up by posting"
It’s redundant

I clearly don’t give a fuck how I look so I don’t know how you get that thought process from my posts
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Post Post #480 (isolation #29) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:43 am

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We really need this replacement before much else can continue

@mod: can you pause deadline until Mr. Richards is replaced? It’s absurd to let time run out when we haven’t had an active player in that slot all day.
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Post Post #485 (isolation #30) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:27 pm

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In post 481, MaryJoLisa wrote:It's a 10-day day phase!

10 days!

@mod so help me if you pause that deadline, I'll tell everyone in this thread that two of the birds you posted in your so called "African" themed game are European and North American!
...why would you not want time to sort out the replacement’s alignment??
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Post Post #493 (isolation #31) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:09 pm

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In post 491, MaryJoLisa wrote:I cannot imagine what they need 48 hours for if they're talking this whole time privately. Boggles my mind.
There can be players in different time zones. Makes it difficult to coordinate if not enough time is given to accommodate that.
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Post Post #511 (isolation #32) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:09 am

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VOTE: Dick Richards
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Post Post #599 (isolation #33) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:02 pm

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UNVOTE:

Stuck on SF traffic yfggghh
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Post Post #612 (isolation #34) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:36 pm

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Your reads are bad tree
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Post Post #614 (isolation #35) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:39 pm

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In post 613, u r a person 2 wrote:Welp, that's possible.
I'd appreciate answers to my questions
I’ve beeb stuck in SF traffic for 3 hours

Once I’m home then definitely
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Post Post #620 (isolation #36) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:54 pm

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In post 615, u r a person 2 wrote:that's the price of great weather year round, eh? =P I put it all in one post for you here for ease of use
In post 581, u r a person 2 wrote:@BB How is this town? And how is it SO town that you're frustrated others don't see it?
Spoiler: spoiled for space
In post 247, BBmolla wrote:
In post 189, Salami wrote:
In post 186, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:You're misreading me. That's not what I'm saying.

Look at it from the perspective that Salami is scum (which we do not know). IF Salami is scum and BBmolla is his scum partner, then we will be able to see in retrospect (after the game) that BBmolla was removing the wagon from his scum partner. If Salami is town and BBmolla is scum, then BBmolla's effort to move the wagon off Salami doesn't make sense because he had an easy mislynch all lined up for himself when he logged in.

If we were to lynch Salami and Salami flipped scum, then we might reasonably look to BBmolla who moved the wagon off Salami, but that still doesn't mean that BBmolla is scum. He might have just been town trying to latch onto what would be for him a more logical target.

If you decide to lynch me and I flip green (and I will), then I would start looking much more carefully at Salami and BBmolla. Salami for the reasons I stated in previous posts (his play doesn't seem newbish), and BBmolla for possibly (but not certainly) protecting a scum partner.
BBmolla didn't move the wagon off me, he was originally voting for cbynumber and then voted for you. Your reasoning is becoming really stupid and longwinded, I'm town so it's impossible for BB and myself to be a scumteam and it's premature for you to speculate on partners until one of the scum has actually been lynched.
In post 187, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:
In post 185, Elements wrote:
In post 183, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:I believe the lynch occurs when 5 players vote for the same person, up until 10 days. After 10 days, majority rules.
after 10 days, no lynch.
It is much more beneficial for town to keep the day going for as long as sensibly possible so there are lots of interactions to analyse and longer for scum to slip up
I think we should keep talking until Tall1s is replaced and then do a lynch. Even if it's a mislynch, we'll have gathered some useful evidence to work with.
Sounds like you already know I'm going to flip town.
like come on this shit is town
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In post 431, BBmolla wrote:lmao

what do you even want to know, I think the two current wagons are on the scummiest players
then aren't you concerned that the two wagons are on those players?
this town isn't THAT cohesive
Richmond Bridge was closed but yeah that too lmao

I think Salami's statement at the bottom is extremely ballsy for scum, and pretty normal for town. I think it's far likely the latter.

look how the Mary wagon completely turned around hmmmm

skitter being on everyone's scumlist is a bit concerning but honestly that might just be because even their partner can't pretend that they look town
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Post Post #621 (isolation #37) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:56 pm

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In post 618, MaryJoLisa wrote:
In post 617, u r a person 2 wrote:sweet come join me on salami
Well hold on there, partner. You may have come in here all:

Image

But I've still got to process what you've said, and I have a prior obligation to Skitter.


(Okay, I give up. If not with img tags, how do you get pictures to embed in a post?)
The website doesn't like that image for whatever reason.
In post 618, MaryJoLisa wrote:
In post 617, u r a person 2 wrote:sweet come join me on salami
Well hold on there, partner. You may have come in here all:

Image

But I've still got to process what you've said, and I have a prior obligation to Skitter.


(Okay, I give up. If not with img tags, how do you get pictures to embed in a post?)
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Post Post #622 (isolation #38) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:57 pm

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I just quite literally just don't see Salami being scummy, please show me some scummy posts
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Post Post #768 (isolation #39) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:00 pm

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VOTE: MaryJo
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Post Post #770 (isolation #40) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:14 pm

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it's bad and you should feel bad
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Post Post #813 (isolation #41) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:20 am

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If Salami flips scum I’ll self vote
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Post Post #841 (isolation #42) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:33 am

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Post Post #842 (isolation #43) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:34 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #844 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:41 am

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Mmmm idk

His Skitter vote seemed like a compromise to get a lynch, Skitter had 3 votes while Salami had 2.
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Post Post #852 (isolation #45) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 845, TTTT wrote:so he puts his nullread at L-1 instead of his scumread at L-2?
there were 2 days 17 hours left when he did that
Yeah of a day that was 14 days long

I can easily see someone new thinking 2 days = we have to get a lynch and don't have time
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Post Post #872 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:16 pm

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ALways try to get a claim before hammering

If he's town PR I'm votelocking MJ
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Post Post #873 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:17 pm

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Votelocking her regardless tbh
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Post Post #901 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:45 pm

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for the record, please gets claims before hammers, it worked well here but next game it could result in losing a town pr
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Post Post #902 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:45 pm

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gg wp thanks for carryign me team
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Post Post #904 (isolation #50) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:52 pm

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wait hold up he claimed VT first post

disregard everything
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Post Post #948 (isolation #51) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:43 pm

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Subject: Newbie 1915: Mafia Hideout
Salami wrote:be careful of BBmolla
he is a good player
and looking to bait you
apparently not

at least I have meta proof now that I'm awful at this game
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