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don't place that vote its a bad vote

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doctor confirms the existence of some other pr

now we wait for said pr to claim

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no

massclaim time

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I have claimed 1-Shot Gunsmith.

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Okay guys

I'm the 1-shot gunsmith.

Any CC?

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uh actually its a real claim

and given that doctor is a godfather... i think that u might be a scums

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no im joking.

need a claim from all other persons

mjl are you vt

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this is true.

i didn't think it needed saying but we'll see what the other pr claim is

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yes

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i claim cutest townie na

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Sure.

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PoE mostly

dunno

if there were a safe vt lynch in the poe pool I generally wouldn't mind making it but with how good my town games have been recently I really want to capstone this d2 but i really don't know who the scum would be

For the record

PvTurist was my top scumread and I had him as [scum or PR] so I didn't want to go after his yesterday

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VT

VOTE: MJL

I'll clarify in a second

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I'm gonna set up my computer because there's a lot of mechanics to talk about

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What's interesting about it

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UNVOTE:

Let me explain strategy

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okay here's the situation:

mathematically, magikhorse is scum exactly half of the time, leaving the other half to be split amongst all the remaining players. ignoring the "they were jailkept, no kill" bla bla bla. now:
in spite of that, we are going to lynch literally everyone who is not magikhorse first. why?

pvturist is literally confirmed town
pvturist is going to target magikhorse

we lynch in the VT pool

this leaves non!magikhorse scum the options of 1) confirming magikhorse as town or 2) no killing.

and we ensure literal autoloss for magikhorse. no way out of this trap. there's no reason for the jailkeeper not to target magikhorse indefinitely so we'll just lynch down to 3 way then kill magikhorse. ezpz.

pvturist, do you understand how this works?

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so, we're gonna lynch mjl and then we're gonna jailkeep magikhorse.

pvturist do you understand that this is the correct play, because if magikhorse is fake they're locked and if they're not there's a roleblocker anyway and we get magikhorse conftown

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magikhorse we're gonna play this out several day phases to get the confirmed win

if you'd prefer to forfeit since there's literally no path to endgame for you that would be a good idea but you don't have to i guess

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assuming you're scum

if you're not I think we got this too

obviously if there's a kill in spite of this then magikhorse is conftown

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VOTE: MJL

au revoir

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scum if playing optimally will no kill tonight anyway but

let's all do fast night

do not wifom target pvturist or you will end up losing the game

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GG mjl!

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you were scum right, i can stop reading?

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It was four, you're dead.

Pinkie promise no wifom, wouldn't lie to you about mechanics like this, etc. that would make me a huge dick.

You were scum?

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ah.

apologies.

we'll win this for you, dw.

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we got it!

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its ok

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sry friend you did good

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anyway magikhorse

if you're town we'll hit scum
if you're scum we'll take a very long time to lynch you but we'll kill you

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Btw I'm sorry if anything I did upset you MJL, you didn't seem... enthusiastic about my presence in this game.

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WP magikhorse.

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Btw I'm sorry if anything I did upset you MJL, you didn't seem... enthusiastic about my presence in this game.

applies even more now that we know we're both town

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magikhorse played well but just got poed out

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I thought I played well too

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MJL you're the last newbie standing, so anything else you'd like to say or ask we're all here for you for!

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Oh shit TL is a newbie heh I forgot. You too lol.

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and yeah TL FA's game made me sad so I was here to save you

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Happy birthday magikhorse

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umm

jailkeeper not doctor

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ftr, the newbies (MJL/TL) original townreads on my slot were correct
the people a la TTTT/PvTurist who called me scum didn't call me scum for anything that I did in game, they called me scum because they were scared of me
being scared of me is unhelpful. it won't help you solve my slot. being careful, sure, but paranoia is stupid and makes you play stupid. if you can't read someone, default to calling them town not scum unless you have super good reasons not to. nothing that i did was scummy unless you see it from the lens of being terrified of someone you see as a horrifying scum player.

not a post that i made during this game put scum closer to winning this game besides possibly suggesting that cowboy was a better lynch than noodle and a shit ton of them put town closer to winning
if you can't figure out any other way to read someone, think of it from that lens.

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it's really not productive, it doesn't help you win, it doesn't put you closer to winning, it's not healthy for the gamestate, there is nothing positive to be said about treating strong players as scum til proven guilty

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We were at a very dangerous crossroads on D1 where there was a high probability of one of my two strongest townreads (myself and TL) ending up dead.
I knew that Noodle wasn't a town PR and I thought she was ~75% of the time scum. I thought it was clearly stacked in favor of benefits as opposed to costs.
If I didn't feel like any attempts to spew myself town would be discredited and ignored because of the 'quality of my scum play' I would have preferred to tackle things through reason but you can't reason through the kinds of logic being thrown at my slot.

Forcing the cop or whatever onto me in the ideal case protects both myself and TL even if it means I end up dead, even if it means I'm quickhammering town.

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And for the record as someone who knows that I'm town it's really, really, really bad for town for me to be getting copped, but in this situation it was the better situation.

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Sorry about the quickhammer on you.

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someone might say that she's... grumpy