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This is a stretch. Your posts page one weren't substantive and could easily have been glossed over. This looks more like shading than reaction testing (as you imply in 51In post 43, Robbnva wrote:
Interesting. Wondering why you lied/misrepped?In post 42, Imperator wrote:We are the only players (other than Clarity) who have posted more than once.-
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So why bother pointing out unusual behavior if you don't see it as AI? Again, looks more like shading than solving, and this backtracking is making it look like you're just trying to stay busy rather than scumhunt.In post 44, Jocus Aevorum wrote:
Describing a player assuspiciousin Mafia can effectively be the same as the Mafia jargon termscummy. I wanted to retract my previous word choice that was too strong in order to state that I do not hold it as alignment-indicative. The wordsuspiciousin this context and the third characteristic are almost antonyms, so a new point means that the third point is not redundant.-
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Actually I want to circle back to this. What do you make of his response, and is it different from what you were expecting?In post 51, Robbnva wrote:
Nothing. I was just curious where your mind was at.In post 45, Imperator wrote:@Robbnva,
Sorry, I totally forgot about your three posts. Somehow my mind condensed them down into one. Certainly wasn't a lie. What do you think I would have gotten from lying about that?-
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Whether it was intentional or not matters a great deal. And it seems obviously unintentional. In which case he wasn't actually lying or misreading. In which case your "interesting" post is pretty shady.In post 63, Robbnva wrote:No he’s not right. It wasn’t a stretch. You DID lie/misrep my post count. Intentionally or not, who cares. It happened.-
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Scum have to appear to appear to be scumhunting. Lying low quickly draws suspicion, so this isn't a good reason to town read someone.In post 69, Jocus Aevorum wrote:For now I'll attribute Imperator's post count mistake to stupidity because of the faultiness of memory and the higher likeliness of an act of stupidity than one of malice; nevertheless, I believe that Robbnva's reaction suggests town because scum would avoid attracting attention by quibbling over a trivial mistake.
Plus, he's already drawn attention to himself, so if scum, he's got to try to shift focus on someone else as quickly as possible and make himself look like the victim of a scum attack-
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You most certainly would have reason to question Imposter. It makes you look like you're scumhunting when you're really not accomplishing anything. Your post 51 made that clear.In post 78, Robbnva wrote:
Jocus actually made a good point. I as scum have no reason go question imposter like I did.In post 75, LuckyOtter wrote:
Scum have to appear to appear to be scumhunting. Lying low quickly draws suspicion, so this isn't a good reason to town read someone.In post 69, Jocus Aevorum wrote:For now I'll attribute Imperator's post count mistake to stupidity because of the faultiness of memory and the higher likeliness of an act of stupidity than one of malice; nevertheless, I believe that Robbnva's reaction suggests town because scum would avoid attracting attention by quibbling over a trivial mistake.
Plus, he's already drawn attention to himself, so if scum, he's got to try to shift focus on someone else as quickly as possible and make himself look like the victim of a scum attack
Your false accusation actually looks like a scum attack becaus it is a blatant misrep, and you misrep me again at the end of the post.
I’m like 90% sure you are scum now
You're throwing around the misrep argument too casually for town if you ask me.
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First post from Robb that pings towny to me (88)
Re: 89, I mean barring an obvious scumslip town have no reason to be so sure of scum so early. Yeah one might have an early suspicion and push it with questions or even a wagon to see how it unfolds but all you've been doing with me is actively trying to discredit me. It doesn't read like legit scumhunting to me.-
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I at least have a question pending answers so your saying I'm not doing any scumhunting is a misrep :pIn post 95, Robbnva wrote:
When you start doing some let me know.In post 91, LuckyOtter wrote:It doesn't read like legit scumhunting to me.
And I never actually said why I'm on the pema wagon. Yet you decided to put a spin on it rather than ask me about it. That to me is telling.
Also I'm an otter so I wouldn't dare throw my stones away.-
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Uhm.In post 86, Robbnva wrote:
Doesn’t surprise me that you’re asking that. Especially if you actually are scum.In post 84, LuckyOtter wrote:In other news, @Robb, jocus, imperator, what do you all make of pema's entrance?-
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If the game is stalled it's because we have two inactive players. If we assume town!pena, I could see one scum being happy keeping a vote there but both would be a bad play.In post 183, Robbnva wrote:No I don’t. None of this discussion these last two/three pages have been useful at all. All I see is people advocating lazy play and others advocating against it.
I see no genuine scum hunting and the only one who really was doing any has stopped and is agitated.
This game HAS stalled. We’re waiting for pema to post and arguing because nobody wants to actually scum hunt. We’ve wasted 3 days. We only get like 10.
I just think it could be spent in a way to actually help town win and teach new players how to play.
I assume both scum are on pena because imo only scum would be ok with the current game state.
Maybe scum is you/otter afterall
Also, saying that the vote on pema hasn't accomplished anything, well that's your opinion. It's certainly gotten a reaction out of you, for one, and a downplay of pema's entrance.-
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In post 66, Imperator wrote:That is a shame. I am glad you aren't scum reading me for any of this though. It would be fascinating to see how LuckyOtter flips.
And I agreed with him because I thought it was a little unfair of you to use the word "lie," I have however changed my mind reading your last couple posts. I might even be convinced to vote for him.
Also, what does "wk" stand for?
I think you should explain this progression a little more.In post 74, Imperator wrote:VOTE: LuckyOtter
I'll park my vote on him for now. Still waiting to see what comes of all this.
@Lucky, while my mistake was unintentional it's still a misread. It also seems that the "interesting" post is townie because of reasons outlined by Jocus.-
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Agreeing with this, and this response:In post 116, ClearlyClarity wrote:
scum!TTTT doesn’t say this about his scumpartner here. You’re comparing a genuine entrance post to a joke response to a joke entrance.In post 112, Robbnva wrote:If we’re going to start nitpicking entrances.
This is a slight scumtell. Only one way he can know clarity is town.
I wrote it off as non ai but if we’re going to just throw logic and common sense out of the window let’s go.
is inadequate. How would it not be a joke post? Again I think you're downplaying the validity of looking at pema's entrance.In post 118, Robbnva wrote:I never said he said that about his scum partner though.
You’re confirmed town cause tttt is scum.
I can’t tell if that was a joke post. There was no indication it was.
logic and common sense have been tossed out the window for this game already so I just have to take things at face value-
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You know what, it is a fucking coincidence. It's 5pm here. I've just gotten home. I have work, and you know what, other games that are in various other states that I might be checking on. I might have been checking on the state of the two inactives of this game as well. And seeing that they're unresolved, I decide to get back in and try to move along. But you decide the only answer here is that I'm active lurking because you're so confbiased/deadset on painting me as scum that literally anything I do at this point you're going to spin.In post 200, Robbnva wrote:
7 minutes later. Not a coincidence.In post 190, Robbnva wrote:And for those who believe in intentional lurking. Lucky logged on today and hasn’t contributed either.
He’s scum ladies and gentlemen.
Now it's pretty clear you're the one interested in doing misreps, bud.
VOTE: robbnva-
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Nobody is questioning the emotion, what is being questioned is the manner of posting. I feel more likely to see new town take the Jocus approach and try to get into the game, and new scum to try to do just enough to get by and appear to be in the game without doing anything. And especially after picking up a couple votes, I'd expect town to work hard to rectify the situation rather than just shut down.In post 128, Imperator wrote:I'm voting for Otter.
And about pema. I definitely think that his post is a hard NAI. I am new to this site, but have played forum mafia once before, I remember feeling under a large amount of pressure to "do well" and get things right. I'm sure pema is feeling similarly.-
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Construing the pema wagon as a policy lynch is blatantly misrepresenting it. You know very well early wagons have a few different uses: 1) get reactions from the person being wagoned, 2) get reactions from those not on the wagon, and 3) see how earlier wagoners react to a wagon that reaches l-2 or l-1In post 158, Robbnva wrote:
I’ve seen town do thatIn post 154, Jocus Aevorum wrote:Pema's only post:
Pema's online activity:
Intentional lurking (and not just lack of activity)???
Hell I do that myself as town.
I mean sure he very well could be scum but we learn nothing by lynching him. Mafia is supposed to be about scum hunting not policy lynching off some stupid made up tell that somebody decided to manufacture and inactivity.-
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Did you get a satisfactory answer to this question? What insight did you gain from it?In post 168, Imperator wrote:@Rob, would you lynch someone else if the Otter wagon never gets off the ground?-
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Can you explain what makes them look fake vs. genuine?In post 215, TTTT wrote:In post 170, Imperator wrote:@TTTT,
I don't think Rob is against voting for pema in general. I may be wrong on this, but I think the idea he is trying to get across is that he would rather vote for a player he thinks is scum then a player that has only posted once.
Why do you like Jocus so much? Do you think he is not reading Rob's posts? Have you read Rob's posts?
these posts look like what newbie scum does to try and look game-solveyIn post 171, Imperator wrote:@zeebu and clarity,
What are your thoughts on Jocus and Rob's back-and-forth? TTTT's involvement? My involvement?-
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I think so, and generally inclined to agree. Especially considering:In post 324, TTTT wrote:
the questions don't look like someone who is trying to solve a puzzleIn post 218, LuckyOtter wrote:
Can you explain what makes them look fake vs. genuine?In post 215, TTTT wrote:In post 170, Imperator wrote:@TTTT,
I don't think Rob is against voting for pema in general. I may be wrong on this, but I think the idea he is trying to get across is that he would rather vote for a player he thinks is scum then a player that has only posted once.
Why do you like Jocus so much? Do you think he is not reading Rob's posts? Have you read Rob's posts?
these posts look like what newbie scum does to try and look game-solveyIn post 171, Imperator wrote:@zeebu and clarity,
What are your thoughts on Jocus and Rob's back-and-forth? TTTT's involvement? My involvement?
they aren't looking to determine motives or thought process
which is fine we all ask questions like that sometimes to get a bearing on the game
but it's like all of them put together strikes me as not how town usually does business
sorry that prob doesn't really answer the question
but I wanted to try and say more than "my gut"
I didn't see a real purpose for Imp asking Robb the question, and given Imp's response it doesn't seem like he did. Looks like busywork.In post 227, Imperator wrote:
I got an answer. I realized after Robb answered that it wasn't really a very revealing question.In post 216, LuckyOtter wrote:
Did you get a satisfactory answer to this question? What insight did you gain from it?In post 168, Imperator wrote:@Rob, would you lynch someone else if the Otter wagon never gets off the ground?-
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I can see that argument in a couple posts but not in his overall pattern. You'd have to lay it out and make more of a convincing case that he's more systematically being showy and fake in order for me to buy this.In post 351, ClearlyClarity wrote:
Funny you say this, cause I've been getting the same vibe from your posts. Like I'm still feeling icky about our p2 interaction where you seemed to be torn between debating semantics and saying...In post 347, Jocus Aevorum wrote:I have this weird gut feeling that Eggs is scum from the "too towny to be town analytical" style....somethingabout my meta, which I'm still unable to discern between all the big words. 134 was super showy in a way that feels almost fake-
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OK but do you have absolutely no thoughts on the game that you can post quick?In post 230, pema22 wrote:Ok so my name is getting thrown around quite a lot, but I wanted to explain myself a little... my greeting was genuine as a new player, and I didn't overly think about what I said (regretting that now).. just wanted to give a pretty standard 'hello' to everyone and introduce myself as a newbie. From there it seems like everyone has jumped on the bandwagon of wanting to vote me out so soon. I am a bit uncertain why saying I am new to the game is a clear sign to want me out- I just wanted to ask all of those people why they considered my entrance so 'bad' or indicative to being mafia scum?
Also I'm sorry for not being as active, but I have been busy these past few days and wanted to learn from last post- taking some time to try and accurately explain myself-
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Why though? In your own words (not just "I like what robb said," which is not a great argument if you think there's an almost equal chance robb is scum)In post 253, Imperator wrote:@zeebu,
Here's the thing. I am convinced that either Robb or Lucky is scum. If we lynch Lucky and he flips town I will be happy to lynch Robb. But I am pretty convinced that Lucky is scum.-
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The 3 people up for lynch are scummy, so yeah. Like, wtf even is this dig?In post 358, Robbnva wrote:
Do you’ve scumread all 3 people up for lynch?In post 354, LuckyOtter wrote:Now that everyone's here:
{TTTT, Eggs, Zeebu}
{Jocus, CC}
{pema}
{Imperator, Robbnva}
You’re amazing :golf clap:-
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Just enough time for a quick catchup.
I really dislike this post. Any post that contains something like "y'all can lynch me but it'll make us lose" is immediately suspicious to me.In post 428, Imperator wrote:All you silent shits. Speak up!!!
Scum Robb is running away with this game, stop letting him. You guys can lynch me, but that just puts us one day closer to losing. I obviously said a couple of stupid things, but look at the motivation behind peoples posts more than the content. If you don't know the motivation you can't know the content.
Robb has managed to scum read many people without being pressured(except by me) he will come on and tear my posts to ribbons by picking snippets of sentences and replying only to those snippets. I assume his excuse for this will be something like, "he's scum so i don wanna talk to him, durrr."
WHY are you letting him get away with this crap?
Feeling safe to eliminate a possible imp/rob team, and feeling more and more like waiting to D2 to sort them.-
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Have something you want to say here?In post 501, Robbnva wrote:
HmmIn post 500, LuckyOtter wrote:Feeling safe to eliminate a possible imp/rob team, and feeling more and more like waiting to D2 to sort them.-
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I don't think you honestly believe this, and you're making me think you're scum again.In post 508, Robbnva wrote:
Outside of arguing with me, I’d say your contribution to this game is about the same as theirs. When you do ask questions they are like t-ball type questions.In post 502, LuckyOtter wrote:There's been enough time for both CC and pema to contribute more than they have, or at the very least place a vote. Pema's hesitation is looking slightly more convincing/justified.
VOTE: ClearlyClarity
I try to re-evaluate my read on you but I honestly can’t connect the dots.
Let me try to be generous and believe for a moment that you honestly believe I'm playing an active lurking game. I don't think in that mindset you can look at my activity and equate it with theirs. At the very least I'm putting votes out and trying to be transparent about my reads. CC and pema are playing a tight tentative game. You can't be ignoring that.
"t-ball type questions..." cmon dude. This type of discrediting attack is getting old. Back that up.-
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Main reason is I have very conflicting feelings on the two and I think it nearly impossible they're both scum. One of them? Pretty good chance. Very good chance one of them is trying to take heat off of one of pema/CC and I'm going back and forth on which scenario is most likely.In post 510, TTTT wrote:
why wait until D2?In post 500, LuckyOtter wrote:Feeling safe to eliminate a possible imp/rob team, and feeling more and more like waiting to D2 to sort them.
A pema/CC pairing doesn't strike me as very likely but not impossible. So a slightly better chance of hitting scum within that pairing I think. I was thinking we get a flip and sorting the two will be easier tomorrow.
That said, if we're going to be hung up on imp vs. robb (or even robb vs. me) maybe getting a flip there is more useful.-
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See here's where I'm getting hung up. On the one hand, lots of Robb's posts don't feel genuine to me. They look reachy (my original comments), accusatory and discrediting (calling anything he doesn't like "lies"), and like he's making a hard push to keep attention in one particular direction (me until it became clear I wasn't likely going to be the lynch, then imp). It just looks to me like he has an agenda.
And then Imp posts stuff like this:
Which just reads like a super fake reaction. Eggs already called out CC's post in the previous post. Not sure what this post intends to accomplish from a pro-town perspective.In post 462, Imperator wrote:
This is ALL you have to say?In post 460, ClearlyClarity wrote:
Someone answer this pretty please.In post 222, ClearlyClarity wrote:Anyone know Robb's scum meta? Is he as confrontational as scum?-
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Oh lookie a misrep. The full quote, "why bother pointing out unusual behaviorIn post 568, Robbnva wrote:why bother pointing out unusual behaviour?
are you kidding me?
that is one of the ways you scum hunt. That is how you try and determine alignment. Point out suspicious things and see how others see it, see how the person being accused reacts.
he is essentially trying to shade JA for scum hunting.if you don't see it as AI?My point was that it didn't look like scumhunting at all-
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Answer this question RobbIn post 564, TTTT wrote:I guess implied in my question is this: what do you think of CC?-
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Because itIn post 573, Robbnva wrote:
The full quote was already provided right before I made that post dumbass.In post 570, LuckyOtter wrote:
Oh lookie a misrep. The full quote, "why bother pointing out unusual behaviorIn post 568, Robbnva wrote:why bother pointing out unusual behaviour?
are you kidding me?
that is one of the ways you scum hunt. That is how you try and determine alignment. Point out suspicious things and see how others see it, see how the person being accused reacts.
he is essentially trying to shade JA for scum hunting.if you don't see it as AI?My point was that it didn't look like scumhunting at all
You point out suspicious activity regardless of its AI or not because that’s how you scum hunt. Just cause something isn’t AI doesn’t mean it couldn’t come from scum. If something is suspicious, you point it out.
Example. Why did people mention pema’s greeting? Why did people want to lynch him for it, you included, if it’s not AI?didlook scummy (You don't have to agree on that for me to believe it to be true)
Because there was an obvious value to scrutinizing the entrance
Here you are advocating looking at something not AI.In post 199, LuckyOtter wrote:Again I think you're downplaying the validity of looking at pema's entrance.
So tell me again why is JA suspicious for his actions, but you and TTTT are ok to do the same?andplacing a vote behind it. Jocus didn't put a vote there, nor did he seem to have a clear intention for pointing out the suspicion. It just looked to me like busywork.-
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You put CC in your scumpool on p 14, said you'd vote for her to put pressure on her, and nothing after that. But she has posted more, so it is not unreasonable to ask this question for your updated view on CCIn post 575, Robbnva wrote:
Read my fucking posts scum boy. Ive given my thoughts on CC alreadyIn post 571, LuckyOtter wrote:
Answer this question RobbIn post 564, TTTT wrote:I guess implied in my question is this: what do you think of CC?
People who ask me reads without first checking if I’ve given them can stop being lazy.
I already said CC I said in my lynch pool.
I’m not compromising going with a 3/4th when I can vote my 1.-
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You know what, I can almost buy CC's claim that she's been lying low for lack of interest in this particular game. I've lost interest in it in trying to engage with Robb. Regardless of alignment, Robb, I want you to know you are unpleasant to play with and make this game unfun. You're starting to attack people and not their play ("I'd insult you but it's not worth it," "dumbass"). If I weren't directly involved in a 1v1 with you I probably wouldn't want to read the game either. Mafia gets heated I know but you're taking it to an unnecessarily personal place and you need to check your anger.
For the record, I don't want you to keep fighting... you have all the power to stop that from happening, you know, by like, questioning your own scumreads and approach to the game. You've claimed with a fair amount of confidence at various points that me, TTTT, and imp are all scum so, you're wrong somewhere, and rather than say "well one is just lying town so good riddance" (paraphrasing various things you've said (zomg paraphrasing is lying))), maybe you should take a step back and try to figure out where you've made a misinterpretation. Maybe...not everything that doesn't line up with. Since lying seems to be your main argument against both me and imp, maybe you should rethink that. Nobody's buying your story about lying anyway so move on already and find a more convincing argument.your perceptionof reality is a lie
I'm left thinking the pairing is likely either Imp/pema or Robb/CC. I was starting to lean the former until Robb switched his vote back to me after CC joined the imp wagon. He doesn't want to say any more about CC and got defensive about it when asked by both TTTT and myself.
So here we go. Final vote. VOTE: Robbnva-
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In post 595, TTTT wrote:in the future plz never join a game I'm in-
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Maybe you reread your sig. Bye.In post 604, Robbnva wrote:And otter if you somehow aren’t scum. Quit mafia or quit falsely accusing/lying/being a hypocrite-
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Can you explain why you think that would be useful right now? Especially in this format?In post 640, Jocus Aevorum wrote:Let's hypo the investigative roles.
If I'm Cop, pema22 is town.
If I'm Neapolitan, Eggs is a Vanilla Townie.
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Do you mean one scum or do you see a possibility of a scumteam in this group?In post 643, Eggs wrote:I'm on the same page. Scum are lurking and letting the tvt kill us. Pema, CC, you.-
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Why?In post 645, Eggs wrote:Had him at town earlier, he's trending downwards lately.-
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Re: setup spec... eh... I thinkearlysetup spec is generally seen as a scumtell but after the first flip it happens sometimes, but usually in more complicated games with more unknowns so that the town can try to figure out how best to use (or NOT) their roles.
Rolefishing is of course very scummy but to the point that most scum, even newbies I would think, know not to do it, or if they're going to try, they know to be sneaky about it. Asking for a hypoclaim and just going for it without everyone's agreement is not exactly sneaky.
I think I was in a game once with a hypoclaim (@Imp it means everyone says who they would targetifthey had those roles, with the actual PRs of course giving their real claims, that way if the PR gets NK'd we have a back record of their targets without necessarily having to out them) and I don't remember why we did it (if we ever even did) or why it was suggested in that instance. When I am less tired I can look into that, but my instinct is that it doesn't help town right now because it can go wrong for a couple reasons, one of which was just illustrated.-
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In post 672, Imperator wrote:VOTE: LuckyOtter
Since Robb flipped town it seems we should honor his reads at least temporarily. I will be putting my vote here.
I showed many times how all of my "lies" were either mistakes or things I actually believed. Has Otter responded this way to Robb's accusations? I'm going to go back and look.He scum read you too Imp! What are you gonna do about that?
So is there a reason you're still voting me?In post 674, Imperator wrote:I just went back and did an iso of Robb vs Lucky. It's a pile of useless horseshit. I have no reason to scum read Lucky for what he said.-
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Was this thought prompted by something? If so I'm not seeing it.In post 685, pema22 wrote: as for what the kill for TTTT means- honestly I don't think it gives us too much information as to who the scum is so not sure where to go from here-
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I might struggle to get content in today but my gut is teeling me to VOTE: pema. I think her iso is pretty consistently devoid of useful content, in a non-newbtown way. If I can sift thru some things today to make sure this checks out I will but it might have to wait for tomorrow.
@zeebs CC was talking about tttt being town leader.-
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Just a little time right now to start doing some VCA. I don't have time right now to shade TTTT and rob as green but I can get to it later if anyone wants. I deleted a couple VCs that were unchanged from the previous one.
Advice for newbies: These are just the official vote counts. Remember that voting movement happens between them, so as we dig into these we need to look at the movement between official VCs as well. Especially toward the end of day. I think there's a lot of interesting movement there that I want to dig into soon.
Spoiler:
Things that stand out to me:
1. As I already mentioned both CC and pema are avoiding voting for a really long time
2. What I didn't notice before is that Jocus is not voting for much of the game. @Jocus why was that?
3. VC 475 makes me think Eggs is probably town, except in the case of scum!Imp. I could see in an Eggs/Imp situation that Eggs wouldn't want to vote his partner or join the mislynch. If Imp is town I think Eggs is too.
4. Right around VC 559 is where we need to focus attention. I don't have the time for it atm but this is where I was talking about there being interesting movement.
5. Surface-level analysis, however, suggests that a pema/CC pairing isn't impossible. CC is in danger of getting lynched and so they both finally spring into action in different directions.
6. There is no chance imo that scum is off the robb wagon. I'm looking mostly at pema and jocus atm given voting patterns but I'm not sold on town!Imp yet
7. That said, gut says it's unlikely both scum are on the wagon. Like, let's say the team is imp/pema as I once suspected. It makes sense to try to drive up an alternative wagon to Imp's, but then CC would be an obvious place to land a vote.
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Tip: Telling someone you're voting them for pressure makes the pressure vote useless because the person knows the vote is not serious.In post 720, Imperator wrote:VOTE: Jocus to give him some pressure. Like I said, he hasn't given many good contributions, if he is town he should step it up.
I've literally done the same thing as newbtown so I'm not reading into this. Just saying.-
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This is a fair pointIn post 756, Imperator wrote:
This post seems like something scum would say to give themselves towncred for retroactively town reading someone. I know you didn't vote for Robb, but can you point me to some posts where you said he was townie during the actual day?In post 724, zeebu wrote:So I’m currently voting for cc and I wasn’t on the robb wagon. He was pretty town, totally deranged, but town-
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Not sure I buy this, but will consider it.In post 761, pema22 wrote:
Wait wait wait my mistake!!!!- this sounds so stupid and totally my fault- I for some reason still thought it took five to lynch and wasn't thinking- I wouldn't have voted for Jocus if I knew it would be the final vote, I never intended to try and vote him out without giving him an opportunity to talk and explain himself.In post 753, zeebu wrote:
I assumed pema didn’t factor in your unvote and tried to hammer.In post 752, Eggs wrote:
What exactly did pema do wrong here?In post 750, zeebu wrote:I’m still ok with keeping my vote on cc, but pema, whoa. Think it was a newbie thing?
I know this sounds so bad but it's the truth!
Still think he is scum though.
I'll be busy today but will look for time tonight to catch up. I'm realizing that we're starting to run out of time and I haven't gotten around to digging deeper into the vote counts yet.-
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Good god please don't self hammer.In post 774, zeebu wrote:I’ve played a crap game. Took kid to the hospital last night, he’s still not feeling well. Lynch away, this game was crap to begin with and it’s been a nightmare to try and stay on it. I’m just a VT and I don’t have any reads to give you because I haven’t read the thread enough lately. I can hammer myself if you guys like and make some sort of record of self hammering townies day 1 and 2
Real talk: Sorry about your kid. Hope he'll be OK.
Game talk: I repeat, don't self hammer. Nobody is going to let this end in a no lynch. I'm not sold on you being scum but I'll hammer if it's the only way out of a no-lynch. Nobody's going to let a no-lynch happen.-
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Welcome! First day here? I'm assuming you're not an alt.
Apologies in advance for what you're about to read. I promise this isn't normal.
We won't really have any questions for you until you give us some of your impressions. You obviously can't answer for Jocus, and it's not good form to ask replacements leading questions (as a general rule)-
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