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[cyrus62]

i so i anit that late. emps and docs on my radar till i have sorted them VOTE: doc rub is null to me untill i see where the game gos

[cyrus62]

i so i anit that late. emps and docs on my radar till i have sorted them VOTE: doc rub is null to me untill i see where the game gos

Let the record show I had your scum game figured out in 'i can't remember the name of this game'.

The game has been cancelled btw, we can talk about it.

oh yes good job mate however if scum knew each other i would have done better.

[cyrus62]

if the game was cancelled you cant use it to say you beat me it was a draw

[cyrus62]

game is going very slow i i really am disappointed in emps .

[cyrus62]

Mackenie rvs mode we cast random votes yes but why the 2nd vote on doctor percy why the 2nd vote on me . you two are pinging me but thanks.

[cyrus62]

so as stated doctor and emps are on my radar and yet neither of the tow seem to be worried enough to disprove this however . town doesn't worry as much as scum dose about being lynched since town can still win so even with out doing much their town points are growing.

edit we all have realy life yet only scum use this excuse.

[cyrus62]

haha emps i got page top

[cyrus62]

me to emps me to hell i dont know if its age or some kind of disorder i feel like im different then every one else btw 8 days then i have to find a normal game to mod.

[cyrus62]

Mackenie rvs mode we cast random votes yes but why the 2nd vote on doctor percy why the 2nd vote on me . you two are pinging me but thanks.

I get the rvs, need to get the action underway. I acted hastily in my first post and my intention was to rvs someone without votes. I then noticed my error but figured it was way to soon to start changing votes. Also pointless unless peeps all start jumping on doctor.

very good answer i have to say this comes off as town to me so this is my top town read as of now.

[cyrus62]

so this is diffent doc when i was scum and pointing fingers you came at me , you however were town in that game , when you were scum in are 1st game you kinda played this way. will have to study you closer however i want to say town this time. still emps is most likely town as well since this is how he played in are last town game together. so thats maybe 4 out of 9 shorted ofc im addeding my self.

[cyrus62]

so this is diffent doc when i was scum and pointing fingers you came at me , you however were town in that game , when you were scum in are 1st game you kinda played this way.

will have to study you closer however i want to say town this time.

still emps is most likely town as well since this is how he played in are last town game together. so thats maybe 4 out of 9 shorted ofc im addeding my self.

if you look close i am saying i want to say hes town this time . however rule of thumb saids judging by how many times doc has rolled town and the fact hes only been scum once, so chances are he would roll scum again at some point yet i cant say thats for sure.

[cyrus62]

haha did i just catch the two scum

[cyrus62]

well lts see scum could be in mack,rob or doc so 3 scum leans emps is town . dyrenz null and then you have others not posting hardly at all. however . rob why the vote even if its rvs why didnt you vote in your 1st post or 2nd . you wait till after some one else votes me?

[cyrus62]

btw i was robs scum partner once so i think i can till his scum game.

[cyrus62]

so ob are are your reads so far also notist doctor is basically lurking so yes i think hes scum here as i said before doc has only rolled scum once.

[cyrus62]

so rob what are your reads so far also notist doctor is basically lurking so yes i think hes scum here as i said before doc has only rolled scum once.

fixd

edit: lack of post makes him null yet deepening how his next few post go i will state if hes town or scum yet i have a scum lean on him so far

[cyrus62]

mackenie seems kinda paranoid for rvs/early game stuff

think theyre town.

then that works one way either we lynch the doc and see if hes scum if so mack is his partner if not mack is town.

[cyrus62]

unless emps is scum and deflecting from mack or trying to pocket. btw until i am lynched i will share my thoughts and scum hunt

[cyrus62]

well lts see scum could be in mack,rob or doc so 3 scum leans emps is town . dyrenz null and then you have others not posting hardly at all. however . rob why the vote even if its rvs why didnt you vote in your 1st post or 2nd . you wait till after some one else votes me?

Please explain all your reads.

Cause I usually don’t vote with my first couple of posts. Majority of the time I just do nothing until there’s something to be done.

my read on doctor is solely on the idea that you can only roll town so many times before you scum. mack is now scum due to defending doctor and saying hes town even though doctor hasn't posted much yet and i see you as 50/50 as of now till i get other post from you.

[cyrus62]

well lts see scum could be in mack,rob or doc so 3 scum leans emps is town.

Funny u should say that. I was thinking Emps scum lean. Based on being mostly afk but making sure to post a number of times without seemingly offering anything.

So my scum lean names my other scum lean as his only town read. Food for thought.

your post would look better if you looked at everything posted before shadeing others

[cyrus62]

see heres the thing scum wont kill me cuse they see me as easy lynch. however with that said i will draw all fire to my self though out day one in order to get scum to try to get me lynched. a very easy way to find scum put me to l1 and leave it there it will be to hard for scum to resist in order to get a mislynch and end day one as quick as they can, i like how rob pointed out my bad logic becuse it is . however do me a favor roll a dice 6 times and till me how many times it lands on 1 or 6 . 1 being pr 6 being scum. now watch and your see you can only roll so many times before you come up scum i have been scum 4 times and town 3 . doc has only been scum once in all his games.

[cyrus62]

okay now that doc rpb and emps are here who has played this new set up before? cuse i have a few questons

[cyrus62]

dose manson and friendly even realy help town after all if the friendly emails the wrong guy your dead . and the only way manson could help is if it became 2 vs1 so whats your thought on one of these prs not asking who you lot our just asking for thoughts on it?

[cyrus62]

What new setup?

you mean you didn't even read the new setup?

[cyrus62]

Unless i missed something i think Dyrenz voted for Rob @SKYGAZER

when talking to the host/mod always use bold to do bold highlight every thing you want in bold and then click the letter b.

[cyrus62]

yes i honestly thinking after that vote count rob mack and doctor are town after all why would scum worry about a vc so badly.

[cyrus62]

UNVOTE:

[cyrus62]

im going to see where this one gos after all i still think emps is town so that's 5 including my self.

[cyrus62]

VOTE: emps [/vote ]im just going to vote him till i have better scum reads. basically i fail to see how my top town read just doesn't post as much im used to.

[cyrus62]

VOTE: emps

[cyrus62]

btw i honestly think i already know who the two scum are but will not drop names on them till im solid . also at doc am i missing something please tell me hyou how you formed your top town read.

[cyrus62]

btw i honestly think i already know who the two scum are but will not drop names on them till im solid . also at doc am i missing something please tell me how you formed your top town read.

fixd

[cyrus62]

Town Mason and Town Mason this kinda defeats rb . also i think its funny as i can see town thinking they are scum lets hope this isnt are set up as it gives scum a big advantage over town. also i dont care who the prs are this is just my thoughts on if they are this setup.

[cyrus62]

why the hell does this happen every game

cyrus stop voting ur townread all the time

your just too good at being scum you almost won by your self.

[cyrus62]

so since im so sure in who is scum i will post my two scum reads when i am lynched because when i flip green then others will be able to trust my reads.

[cyrus62]

so since im so sure in who is scum i will post my two scum reads when i am lynched because when i flip green then others will be able to trust my reads.

Why not post your scum reads now?

It is shit like this that makes you look scummy.

ok i will tell you mine of you tell me yours.

[line]mack and rob
[/line]

[cyrus62]

Mack is one of mine as well, let's go.

VOTE: Mackenzie

i suck at making cases maybe you can do one VOTE: Mack

[cyrus62]

Mackenie rvs mode we cast random votes yes but why the 2nd vote on doctor percy why the 2nd vote on me . you two are pinging me but thanks.

I get the rvs, need to get the action underway. I acted hastily in my first post and my intention was to rvs someone without votes. I then noticed my error but figured it was way to soon to start changing votes. Also pointless unless peeps all start jumping on doctor.

very good answer i have to say this comes off as town to me so this is my top town read as of now.

well lts see scum could be in mack,rob or doc so 3 scum leans emps is town . dyrenz null and then you have others not posting hardly at all. however . rob why the vote even if its rvs why didnt you vote in your 1st post or 2nd . you wait till after some one else votes me?

so ob are are your reads so far also notist doctor is basically lurking so yes i think hes scum here as i said before doc has only rolled scum once.

mackenie seems kinda paranoid for rvs/early game stuff

think theyre town.

then that works one way either we lynch the doc and see if hes scum if so mack is his partner if not mack is town.

yes i honestly thinking after that vote count rob mack and doctor are town after all why would scum worry about a vc so badly.

so since im so sure in who is scum i will post my two scum reads when i am lynched because when i flip green then others will be able to trust my reads.

Why not post your scum reads now?

It is shit like this that makes you look scummy.

ok i will tell you mine of you tell me yours.

[line]mack and rob
[/line]

All i'm gonna say if Cyrus is town he is either a genius or a bad player:

Macks town,
wait hes a scum lean,
lets lynch Doc to find out,
wait Rob, Mack and Doc are town,
actually Mack and Rob are probably scum.

Not bad for fiirst 6 pages.

Doc atleast you seem consistent when I looked at your posts in isolation, dont like to give much away though do you.

i will say this in all my town games i have found scum in day one and day 2.

[cyrus62]

How many games you had? always have the Doc (previously scum lean numero uno) to guide you?

7 now lost most due to hick ups with games . rob and my game results were a lose due to to many delays . when i was scum however neverd lost as town

[cyrus62]

emps as of now im confused due to the new setup .

[cyrus62]

Just trying to get some convo outta u. Dont even know what shading is. I could put him to L-1 if we are fishing and i have a minor scum read but dont wanna risk early hammer. My read on u is now leaning town as i dont see that vote as something mafia would do.

Just seen ur other post, rvs on L-2 seems unlikey but what do know.

Bullshit. If you wanted to have a conversation with me, you’d have a conversation with me.

Is this how two scums are talking to each other? Would Rob ask Mackenie to stage conversation like this?

its called distancing you make it look like your not working together. then there is busing. where you push your partner . now lets see rob saids mack is town and mack saids rob is town. also the whole pisst off tone was how he played as scum. with me . any way we voteing mack right now so rob stuff isnt up yet unless mack is indeed scum.

[cyrus62]

imo if his reasoning is "first game guy wouldnt be bold as town" i could just say "first game guy wouldnt be bold as scum"

like actually posting and voicing ur thoughts as someone playing their first game is +townpoints imo

why dose this post come off as if it was ment for pt. any way i still say emps is town.

[cyrus62]

Spoiler:

Listen, Cyrus may be hard to grasp sometimes which makes him ripe for mislynch.

But....he does have a knack for picking out scum......when he isn't tunneling me.

His issue is coherently making the case to get other people on board.

Pre Edit: this is the third game we played together. One I was scum he was town, second was vice versa. I can tell his alignment from these games, he is town this game.

@Cyrus, Doc has a big read on you based on previous games in which he is positive your town. Question is what are your thoughts on him based on his previous play as town?

thowing this out here so you dont think im ignoreing you , im going need some time to state my answer on this.

[cyrus62]

well the isuse i have with this set up i will state this before answering macks question is, if two role mason then they will know each other is town and have a pt. but we wouldnt know this and think they are defending each other and think they are scum. again i don't wish to know if any one has this role .

[cyrus62]

now for macks question regarding doc. in my honest opinion doc is a master of both sides he has found a way to duplicate his scum and town game however when he was scum he didnt talk hardly at all. nor did he make a solid scum or town read,

[cyrus62]

now when it comes to emps i only played with him twice once he was scum he was to towny to be town but no one realize it till at the end, the other he was jk no one knew it till he struck so yes he is damn good at pr and damn good at scum. me as scum i suck .

[cyrus62]

rob is very angry scum so. this would be a hard one

[cyrus62]

i'll make a bet for doc and even stick my neck out / if doc is scum lynch me tommrow however if he is town trust me on my reads . rob is now my top scum read.

[cyrus62]

Cyrus i'll give u one thing. You confuse the hell outta me.

\\try thinking out of the box . my top town read is emps but why. i thought emps was town based on how he was acting as scum and town but the way he switch wagons on to doctor and off mack could be protecting scum . before i thought rob and mack i thought emps and mack but named him my top town read so he wouldn't change how he was acting.

[cyrus62]

and I will just assume no response to the accusation of you lying, means I was right and you did intentionally lie.

you said i was lying about playing with you . i didnt want to post my game with you to prove it however im not realy scared to do so. are you for dismissing it or saying i lied? now calling me out saying im lying. or are you trying to discredit me so no one thinks your scum? which one of these?

[cyrus62]

ok my bad rob never said mack was town i miss read it due to me being half awake.

[cyrus62]

So Rob is your main scum read but 30 minutes later you imply emps&mack team.

no i said emps was my 1st pick and then i switch it to rob . later on.

[cyrus62]

I don't want Doc at L-1 and i'm not convinced he is scum, but I really need to hear from you Doc as there are just too many gaps and unanswered questions.

then unvote if you dont want him at l1. however judgeing by how doc hasnt been hammerrd means either doc is scum o scum is already on his wagon . me being town i wont quick hammer but i will do this intent to hammeer doc

[cyrus62]

now watch the vote fall off doc

[cyrus62]

intent to hammer doc at 9pm my time btw my time saids 2:37pm

[cyrus62]

intent to hammer doc at 9pm my time btw my time saids 2:37pm

this is not a town post btw.

we have over 6 days left and doc isn't even in your scum pile.

if you dont think hes scum then get others to unvote him by 9pm.

[cyrus62]

Spoiler:

if you dont think hes scum then get others to unvote him by 9pm.

that isn't how the game works, and you know this.

you have stated you don't think he is scum so you threatening to hammer is antitown and when added to everything else, screams scum.

hopefully people see that now and you get lynched but i am not holding my breath. I can only do so much as I am one person. I have provided many reasons why you should be lynched.

You have provided 0 reasons why anyone but mac should be lynched.

so the queston is do you have the balls to call my bluff or do you sit there doing nothing.

[cyrus62]

seems mack cant do a vote count properly . but i had you guys going.

[cyrus62]

i knew doc wasnt at l1 so my whole intent was a bluff.

[cyrus62]

now blets see how this would play out in pt . rob tells mack lie about the vote count to see who takes the bait. mack then lies about it to see who takes the bait.

[cyrus62]

i however watching the votes carefully knew it was a lie and started "bluffing" to get others off docs wagon and see how others would react to it. its funny realy.

[cyrus62]

now look at this game carefuly your see how rob plays as scum viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80202 now look at his play here.

[cyrus62]

dont think cyrus seems like the type of guy to properly do a votecount, hes accidentally lolhammered as town before.

thay wasnt me mis couting votes mate i forgot how many it took to lynch. i always count the votes.

[cyrus62]

dont think cyrus seems like the type of guy to properly do a votecount, hes accidentally lolhammered as town before.

that wasn't me mis counting votes mate i forgot how many it took to lynch. i always count the votes.

fixd

[cyrus62]

speaking of doc where is he

[cyrus62]

how do u not know how many votes it is to lynch

-person who forgot it was 4 to lynch one time

i kept saying "lol its l-2 not l-1" when there were 3 votes on someone

yeah uh...

your cute emps remeber i have you as top town lane so since your my top town lean please give your reads

[cyrus62]

so why is doc sr emps care to makre a case and why is mack town?

[cyrus62]

i already told you rob my reads are based on game play here so far i am trying very hard to not state how emps and macks interaction makes me feel as i dont wish to help scum by revealing to much information .

[cyrus62]

and now i think rob is stress9ng him self out he was hoping for a early lynch with me and didnt get one . why so eager to end day 1 so fast?

[cyrus62]

why so eager to end day 1 so fast?

the only one eager to end day 1 early was you.

what is a bluff? i believe it is used when say you will do something . even when you wont. i knew the vote count wanted to convince you i was going to hammer doc even when i my self knew i couldn't do s0 to Gage your reaction. which you acted how i wanted you to by basically telling mack to unvote and not doing so your self.

[cyrus62]

if your so sure im scum bet on it by saying if i flip town your be lynched tommrow and then i'll help you lynch myself if you anit then stand down.

[cyrus62]

i a;ready bet that doc would flip town and said if he flips scum then i'll eat the bullet tomorrow but i doubt your brave enough to make the bet.

[cyrus62]

cyrus, it is clear I am your top scum read. All your attention is focused on me. So why aren't you voting me?

Why are you sitting there seemingly waiting for a better wagon? that is very opportunistic of you imo.

first doc wagon was growing and you were willing to vote him despite thinking he is town (playing against your win condition)

You are voting Mack yet aren't doing anything to convince people to join you. Why is that?

Do you see the difference between both of us? I am trying to lynch who I think is scum. I am trying to show other people why the person i think is scum is better lynch than somebody else.

You aren't doing that. Why?

So you are town playing sub-optimally and imo against your win condition or you are scum. You being scum makes much more sense. I would hope you aren't playing against your win condition in a newbie game as an SE.

hmmm since when is it against the rules to vote your town read . yes i i said doc was my town read howeve i didnt vote him after unless your counting my rvs as a town read. and no i cant make a case on mack othe then the fact that hes defending you whom i think is scum and for makeing a case in you i dont have to. your doing it all you self.

[cyrus62]

and yes im going to thow this out there i still think doc could be scum as i said emps is my top town read . i am gowing less sure of mack and more sue oof rob and looking back at doc. and yes this is how he playd almost to a t when he was scum with me.

[cyrus62]

easy targets if that was the case i would be voteing the afk player not the guy almost every one town reads. i am even voteing agisnt my top town read who sees mack is town. so im voteing a guy whom 4 people think is town and doc unvoted him so maybe 5 that doesnt seem like such a easy target .

[cyrus62]

your vote on mack is just a lazy vote to park it somewhere. You don't seriously think mack is scum. You aren't doing anything with it. You aren't pushing his lynch. you probably think that if you park your vote on him and everyone town reads mack, people will think "scum would never do that" when in fact scum would absolutely do that. Town would be trying to find scum and get them lynched, which you aren't doing.

the biggest wagon is Doc and you can't really join that one at this point. There isn't a viable counter wagon and you don't want to seem to want to push one. You seem ok with him being lynched despite him being your town read.

and yes im going to thow this out there i still think doc could be scum as i said emps is my top town read . i am gowing less sure of mack and more sue oof rob and looking back at doc. and yes this is how he playd almost to a t when he was scum with me.

when i said this i ment rob but also stateing why i feel unsure of mack but i honestly think you are scum and so far the way your tunneling me proves my point . so when i flip town i took a scum down with me aka you. not that any one will vote with me at this point VOTE: roband im "omg" which is why i didnt want to vote you. but i have my case now

[cyrus62]

easy targets if that was the case i would be voteing the afk player not the guy almost every one town reads. i am even voteing agisnt my top town read who sees mack is town. so im voteing a guy whom 4 people think is town and doc unvoted him so maybe 5 that doesnt seem like such a easy target .

Four people? I am not one of them.

your not as i thought he was town read by every one but my doc and the afk no shows. ok then 3

[cyrus62]

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80024 docs scum game tell if this matches his play here.

[cyrus62]

hey if i dont respond for a bit im dealing with rl crap

[cyrus62]

we all have realy life yet only scum use this excuse.

hmmmm

well yes your right, hey every one i am scum. ok now shit just hit the fan so enjoy, like i said rl crap.

[cyrus62]

i did state that emps and mack was my 1st thought for scum right?

[cyrus62]

would a doc / rob team be to far fetch i feel rob is pulling a lamist this whole game. but who knows . and doc is so on par with his scum game its not even funny. so my reads have changed

town kennest
town lean emp
scum lean doc
scum read rob
have no idea where to put mack

[cyrus62]

dont feel bad mack i will be the 1st lynched you may be the 1st nk if im not lynch im take the bullet.

[cyrus62]

and im picking on you cuse come on your homer . homer is just scummy a lovable scum but still scummy maybe not as scummy as bart but hey whos judgeing. btw . your going have lots of games where every one hates you not becuse of homer but thats how they act here . emps is cool . i think doc is to . robs a dick scum or town. btw dont read to much in to this . this is just my thoughts.

[cyrus62]

i just state my thoughts as they come to me.

[cyrus62]

@mod could we get a vote count

i would like to know what we are at before i play my full hand.

[cyrus62]

Surprising you need this as your so good at counting votes

Also why does votecount effect your reads?

i am to tried to do so and it is mostly for you . i am planing to lay my cards on the table after a bit 5am my time so i am off to bed and will do something to prove my reads and show how badly doc matchs his scum game . as said before rob is hard. but i am sure i can prove docs meta matches the other.

[cyrus62]

i think im at l2

[cyrus62]

hey uhm guys dont like openly talk about whos going to be nked....

it only benefits scum

grabs emps by the ankle and puts his head in tolite and flushes it.

[cyrus62]

I will stake my claim at LEAST one of Mack and Cyrus is scum.....leaning them not a team though.

Be back later.

Strong claim. Now with your backtrack, on the omgus basis, your saying that i'm a town read.

So does that mean you now think atleast one of Cyrus is scum (your certain on Cyrus). Did you ever think i was actually scum?

Also your early read was certain Cyrus is town, i have no problem with a read change over a large period of time but is there anything specific thats bothering you?

this is called posturing

basically setting up tmrws lynch

going to call pre game meta scum slip on this.

[cyrus62]

i must tip my hat

[cyrus62]

ok my cards will be a complate bs mostly as i am going give my town n games and well as my scum games as well as others such as emps doc and rob and then my town games and then giive my last reads before showing why others cant be trusted and then hang my self and every one will then know the truth.

[cyrus62]

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=80024my town and docs scum
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80145 my town emps scum
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80175 my town emps pr
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80202 rob and my scum
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=80327 scum
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=80488 scum
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=80608 scum

any one that just saids scum is my scum game go have a look your see i cant act the same as town as i do as scum and you will see why rob and doc cant be trusted if i anut hammerd before i can hammer my self i will steal stuff from others games .

[cyrus62]

fyi will self hammer soon as i said its been a blast so good luck town i am trusting you to read these reports and know who your playing

[cyrus62]

rob your scum this game and i know it and so will the others based on your reads . you refuse to help the game and hoping for mis lychees . my whole play with doc was me trying to get others
off the wagon.

[cyrus62]

fyi will self hammer soon as i said its been a blast so good luck town i am trusting you to read these reports and know who your playing

wtf? How could selfhammer help town?

town is to focus on me so i will get it to stop and look at others.

[cyrus62]

if you read docs game your see he buddys his scum partner and who is he buddying this game. i wonder?

[cyrus62]

as i stated rob your a good player . i give you that i am mostly just trying to have fun maybe a laugh its not like you win or lose anything on here. but maybe you are right . yet i seen how you played the game when we were both scum and that was attacking others . doc play is he buddies others, emps play is he gos out of his way to help others.

[cyrus62]

my play as scum is mostly trying to lead town

[cyrus62]

doc im calling you out your to lucky this game you haven't helped town your votes are optermastic your hoping for easy lynches you agree with my reads then back track almost as if your scum buddy is mack and so i cast my vote on you and will reviwe rob later yet i honestly think its you and the sad part is i stuck my neck out for you so iif you flip scum i will most likely be lynched day 2,

[cyrus62]

VOTE: docter for pocketing and being opptermastic .

[cyrus62]

Spoiler:

Sup

I don't like that tone.

VOTE: robb

rvs doesnt mean crap

i so i anit that late. emps and docs on my radar till i have sorted them VOTE: doc rub is null to me untill i see where the game gos

Let the record show I had your scum game figured out in 'i can't remember the name of this game'.

The game has been cancelled btw, we can talk about it.

useing meata again nai

i so i anit that late. emps and docs on my radar till i have sorted them

Because of previous experiences with them?

pocket
I think this is how he gets his reads, and he is still bitter about a game of ours lol.

discredit

Mackenie rvs mode we cast random votes yes but why the 2nd vote on doctor percy why the 2nd vote on me . you two are pinging me but thanks.

I get the rvs, need to get the action underway. I acted hastily in my first post and my intention was to rvs someone without votes. I then noticed my error but figured it was way to soon to start changing votes. Also pointless unless peeps all start jumping on doctor.

very good answer i have to say this comes off as town to me so this is my top town read as of now.

See, you are way different here Cyrus.

Both of you seem very townie right now.

another pocket attempt

cyrus's scum game..

that sounds interesting lol i should check it out wh3n i have more time

Feels like we are already moving on from RVs.

Care to actually add some content?

trying to look as if hes helping town

so as stated doctor and emps are on my radar and yet neither of the tow seem to be worried enough to disprove this however . town doesn't worry as much as scum dose about being lynched since town can still win so even with out doing much their town points are growing.

I feel that cyrus is trying to confuse us on purpose. He doesn't even try to build a sentence.

Tbf, this is how he posts. It isn't indictive of his alignment.

And this is coming from someone who has played with him as both scum and town.

another pocket

huhh?

eekveek confirmed and didnt post?

VOTE: eekveek

Week vote tbh.

trying to look like hes helping town

If Cyrus would stop tunneling me with bad logic we get somewhere here.

trying to pocket

Wow....didn't even notice Cyrus is at L-1.

Probably best for someone to unvote him.

makeing me look like hhis partner

I still think seems town Cyrus to me, I am not gung ho about it though.

Mackenzie, how many games of mafia have you played?

Pre Edit: I consider him the ultimate stream of consciousness player.

Ok thank you Mackenzie, helps with my read on you.

Kerset, it is generally bad to lynch so quickly, especially on d1. My town read in him only slightly factored into that.

Robb, I feel I just can read his play almost perfect. Maybe I am being too confident in this ability though.

btw i honestly think i already know who the two scum are but will not drop names on them till im solid . also at doc am i missing something please tell me how you formed your top town read.

fixd

I know you, you are my top town read, you are way different here then last game.

And I think I know one scum, but letting it breathe a bit more before I vote.

saids this and doesnt state who

so since im so sure in who is scum i will post my two scum reads when i am lynched because when i flip green then others will be able to trust my reads.

Why not post your scum reads now?

It is shit like this that makes you look scummy.

Mack is one of mine as well, let's go.

VOTE: Mackenzie

easy vote to make others think hes helping town

Listen, Cyrus may be hard to grasp sometimes which makes him ripe for mislynch.

But....he does have a knack for picking out scum......when he isn't tunneling me.

His issue is coherently making the case to get other people on board.

Pre Edit: this is the third game we played together. One I was scum he was town, second was vice versa. I can tell his alignment from these games, he is town this game.

Obviously it’s just a quick skim but looking at two town games and one scum game. His play here doesn’t give me the same vibe as the two town games. But there’s probably some bias that I can’t shake. He just seemed more care free in those games. This game seems different. Idk. Hard to explain I guess. Time will tell obviously

Nothing from Doc when Rob posted the above, even though he feels the oppostite.

Pre Edit: this is the third game we played together. One I was scum he was town, second was vice versa. I can tell his alignment from these games, he is town this game.

Doc you said you have a handle on Rob's play, care to share your read?

Never played with Robb, this is in regards to Cyrus.

But........UNVOTE:

Thats supposed to say i cant help feeling you are both townies angry at each other.

What has cyrus done that is so towny?

Like on one of my favorite reddit subs, explain it to me like i'm five.

I am starting to buy Cyrus as scum.

I apologize for my lack of activity lately, been busy with some irl stuff and couldn't find time to devote to mafia. Should be back later to address some topics.

But, Robb, what are your other accounts? Curious to see if I ever played a game with you. I had another account before this one as well.

But, Robb, what are your other accounts? Curious to see if I ever played a game with you. I had another account before this one as well.

What is your account?

the more notable ones are Jake from State Farm, Beck, and Derpy Hooves.

No shit, I have played a few games with your Jake From State Farm account.

I was FuDuzn in another life.

Mackenzie, there was a reason for my vote on you and a reason for my unvote.

You not understanding make me want to put my vote back on you(also, nothing serious going on irl, just grown up bullshit lol).

I will stake my claim at LEAST one of Mack and Cyrus is scum.....leaning them not a team though.

Be back later.

As usual vague answers. You want to void me because i dont underatand something? Maybe explain...

In due time.

Gotta not focus my attention on you and Cyrus so much and look at the other noobs(term of affection).

I will let you enjoy that vaguness for a bit.

although the whole calling himself town throws me off a bit tbh

Why?

idk calling urself town and insisting uve done nothing scummy is just kinda weird and idk how to read it

This is the game.

Everyone, regardless of alignment, is gonna say they are town and are not scummy.

NAI, I don't like how you are hedging your bets.

Oh, and to those who don't know.

NAI = Non Alignment Indicative

Basically, what they are saying doesn't give any scum or town tell.

Ftr, and somewhat for the sake of nostalgia.

Rob and I as a scum team(FuDuzn and Jake).

Compare and contrast folks.

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And you better thank me for the effort to dig that game back up.

I really don’t like how doc is behaving towards me. He has been vacant yet somehow comes in and is definitely trying to pocket me.

Not pocketing, but I got derailed a bit because I remembered really enjoying playing with you as Jake.....should have kept it until after the game.

I know how cagey I have been, did some hiking and was having some beers at the bar. Back home now, and if you afford me a few minutes, will explain the whole Mackenzie thing.

Ok, I will pull a bit of mean culpa and say I am taking backnmy scum read on Mackenzie after looking through a few posts.

I voted Mack with Cyrus to see how both would react, no intention of keeping my vote there. Cyrus came off very scummy, even though I was really starting to town read him there. But, Mackenzies read progression was really looking like a townie trying to piece things together......so when I woke up the next morning.....unvote.

I started to not like Mackenzies not really understanding of what I was doing and using it as a scum tell towards me, which I kind of got caught up in a bit of omgus and thinking they are using my vagueness and wishy washiness as a way to get a mislynch....... Mackenzie must be scum.

They are not.

Mackenzie is solidly town in the way they handled everything, Cyrus is prob scum, Robb could go either way, emps really is rubbing me the wrong way, slight lean scum for him......I need to kick the tires on kerset...... really piggy backing on the hate for me, could be protecting Cyrus.

So with that VOTE: cyrus

"really rubbing me the wrong way"

"slight scumlean"

im sorry what

You speak English right?

"really rubbing me the wrong way"

"slight scumlean"

im sorry what

You speak English right?

do you?

if im "really rubbing you the wrong way" shouldnt i be more than, i dunno, a slight scumlean?

You haven't really provided much proactive content(pot meet kettle I know) to make me get a solid read on you, so yes a slight scum lean.

Rubbing me the the wrong way doesn't mean conf scum.

Im laughing so much right now

Care to elaborate, or are you taking a few customer service calls.

no, what im saying is, how does "really rubbing me the wrong way" translate to "slight scumlean"

im saying that shouldnt it be like at least a stronk scumlean?

If I was dead set on you as scum I would be voting you.

Why is this such a hard concept for you to grasp?

if you read this your see he comes off bad .

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Spoiler:

Cyrus you made a threat of self lynching in the hope of saving yourself, i figured it was baloney and now to see you jump on he second biggest wagon i have no doubt my read is correct.

You put yourself in a corner and you should of alteast waited a bit longer, i didnt think L-1 pressure would be that bad but IMO you cracked.

mack your defence on doctor makes you look bad. yes i voted doc.

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Mac has been opportunistic twice

i cant make my self look good at this point yet . i will say my top scum reads are now doctor and mack.

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scum buddies are doctor and mack

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you will see when nither die tonight so to whoever else lynch me and lets get this over with.

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Cyrus you said that you don't mind about being lynched and even desire this. Why would you try to jump on doc wagon? Did Rob magically appeared non suspicious to you? Maybe your vote on Rob was huge bluff that you setup for 10 pages? You are past all belief at this point.

i know this however as i stated . i voted rob to show him i wasnt scare to do so . i voted emps to presure him . i voted mack becuse he was a scum read . i am voteing doc becuse he is now my top scum read.

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and no i dont care if im lynched . the odds are in my favor to win. 7 town 2 scum do the math.

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as of now my last town reads are every one but rob is con town but doc and mack are scum.

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just got cunfused hang on have to re read clime now thanks mate you thow me off.

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well lts see scum could be in mack,rob or doc so 3 scum leans emps is town . dyrenz null and then you have others not posting hardly at all. however . rob why the vote even if its rvs why didnt you vote in your 1st post or 2nd . you wait till after some one else votes me?

Why do you keep changing your scum reads?

becuse over the last 6 days my reads have changed.

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damn i bet this makes me more scumy then town but im beting we are in row 1 so every one watch our this games going to be hard

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well lts see scum could be in mack,rob or doc so 3 scum leans emps is town . dyrenz null and then you have others not posting hardly at all. however . rob why the vote even if its rvs why didnt you vote in your 1st post or 2nd . you wait till after some one else votes me?

Please explain all your reads.

Cause I usually don’t vote with my first couple of posts. Majority of the time I just do nothing until there’s something to be done.

my read on doctor is solely on the idea that you can only roll town so many times before you scum. mack is now scum due to defending doctor and saying hes town even though doctor hasn't posted much yet and i see you as 50/50 as of now till i get other post from you.

Those reasons are pretty weak. Also, what's your reasoning for rob?

because at that time he had not posted hardly and i was trying to get the game roleing. your going laugh if it turns out doctor is scum. and i was right btw i only think rob at that point due to lack of post.

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well lts see scum could be in mack,rob or doc so 3 scum leans emps is town.

Funny u should say that. I was thinking Emps scum lean. Based on being mostly afk but making sure to post a number of times without seemingly offering anything.

So my scum lean names my other scum lean as his only town read. Food for thought.

your post would look better if you looked at everything posted before shadeing others

IMO, this looks like you're trying to buddy with emps.

bais maybe i might be saying emps is town based on my old game play with him.

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so this is diffent doc when i was scum and pointing fingers you came at me , you however were town in that game , when you were scum in are 1st game you kinda played this way.

will have to study you closer however i want to say town this time.

still emps is most likely town as well since this is how he played in are last town game together. so thats maybe 4 out of 9 shorted ofc im addeding my self.

if you look close i am saying i want to say hes town this time . however rule of thumb saids judging by how many times doc has rolled town and the fact hes only been scum once, so chances are he would roll scum again at some point yet i cant say thats for sure.

This is terrible reasoning because the probability of him being town the last game and this game are independent.

[/quote] its done by random heck i rolled scum 4 times n a row now its back to town, hes only been scum once on his account. he had to have rolled it again by now.

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Cyrus you made a threat of self lynching in the hope of saving yourself, i figured it was baloney and now to see you jump on he second biggest wagon i have no doubt my read is correct.

You put yourself in a corner and you should of alteast waited a bit longer, i didnt think L-1 pressure would be that bad but IMO you cracked.

theres only 3 wagons was i to real end the day . i was on rob 1 wagon i am one wagon and doc is the other how dose this statement make sence .

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you know what mack maybe. just maybe if you or rob pulled your head out of your ass. and stop tunnelng for a day or two you might have realy found scum at this point i dont realy give a damn so yes do me a blody favor and vote me okay. damn its anti town to self vote thought i give my last reads 1str so here you go. to clame now to emps to samia and to who ever replaces st parcy. keep a close fucking on on mack and doc/ rob if mack or doc live . there will most likely be a noo death or i was right. if mack dies hey sorry. then its rob and doc these are your main 4 to watch however if there is only one scum between rob, doc, ,mack its kerset . now go ahead and hammer these last 7 days i have changed my reads a hell of alot but one thing stays the same doc and mack most likely .fyi if big if emps is scum you got me. to the 4 i called scum mega bite me ass's.

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what the fuck i dont understand anything that you said

im saying watch doc and mack make it to day 2 . and if your sccum you desve to win.

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winks hey emps whys the hammer takeing so long. i am vt this time. so maybe scums on the wagon already with town . so watch the wagon as well

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Okay, I've finished my recap. Based on what I've read I'm pretty sure cyrus is scum. Cyrus hasn't stayed on one read the whole time. He seems to vote on whoever he wants and doesn't really push them. In addition, his posts don't seem town motivated and he never follows up on his questions. I also think mack could be scum because he seems to be buddying with emps.

well you got one.

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Wdym?

mack is cum o is doc ok yor see soon

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Wdym?

mack is scum so is doc okay your see soon

fixed

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like i said watch the wagon

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to emps and doc im working on a large scum game wont be able to start sigh ups for this one till dec how ever your both invited when i do get it up

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dong you already recived your invite so did you worse. sky your invited too. cyrus out.

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so all and all when emps turnd on me you knew he was scum . any way the game im working on is looking good i hope you and emps/doc/dong join it it will be invite only.

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oh trust me every one will struggle so your fit right in.