Newbie 1968 - Game Over

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Disagree

VOTE: Urist

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I have super secret intel that suggests one of us is not like the other

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I do not believe there is 8 ducks here, unless I unawarely signed up for some kind of multiball theme game.

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wait is this multiball?

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2

d bois?

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VOTE: ojoi hola

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VOTE: teh worst serious vote

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Feeling ducky this time around is more train!tw than IC!tw. Just something fishy about your posts so far

Will give thoughts on the game in a bit.

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train!tw being scum ducky in a previous game, and IC!tw being town ducky in a previous game.

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quack

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ehh not feeling anything AI in this game yet.

I like your interactions and the vibes you're making, it's probably what made me stay on this site after my first game with you being the IC. That being said, it'd make me and other players less want to lynch you if you happened to roll scum

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train!tw being scum ducky in a previous game, and IC!tw being town ducky in a previous game.

what does "train' and "IC" mean here

train meant a previous game where I correctly scumread tw D1 (and got lynched for it)
IC meant my first game onsite where he was the IC role as town

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Well, Thomth certainly has a beautiful avatar. Not feeling AI on him, but I guess I can see his "unconventional" way of writing may be attention attracting. I'm fine with him being pressured right now.

I'm liking Uncrowned, both posts (town-aligned questions and vote) and personality. Judging by page 1 though, if Uncrowned is a really good scum player then I'd be more cautious about giving reads on him.

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Newbie 1968 being my first game to MS, my opinions will likely to be purely speculative. I don't know how everyone else usually acts in other games, so I'll just follow along to whatever argument I find the most rational. For now, since the majority is fixated on Thomth, here goes:

VOTE: Thomth

Did I do that right

This puts Thomth at L-1

pedit: ninja

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time to stir the pot with a spicy page 7 reads list

Uncrowned
JV
Alex/TW

Urist
Gyro/Ojoi

Faustiv
Thomth

The rest I get, but what makes Thomth your top scumread?

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btw JV what's the story of that girl in your avatar?

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If uncr/jv/tw is t/t/t we all fistbumping

I approve this Uncrowned/JV/TW townbloc, minus TW being in the townbloc.

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also quack

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JV and Urist

From what you know of TW, do you think as scum he'd try and pocket a player (me) he assumes will be universally town read by announcing them as his firm town like he just did above?

It doesn't seem out of character for him, but I have to pause and think about it because he clearly thinks I'm a smart, manipulative player. I've changed my meta A LOT from my last game, so the fact that he's got me pegged as a firm TR already is interesting.

Maybe I'm just reaching, idk. But when I thought about it it seemed slightly off

Yes, yes, no, yes (*illustration not to scale)

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wait gif didn't work rip

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If uncr/jv/tw is t/t/t we all fistbumping

I approve this Uncrowned/JV/TW townbloc, minus TW being in the townbloc.

I think you being paranoid of me as a concept is valid

I'm not convinced you're paranoid of me in this particular game

:u I'm cool w/ waiting for other slots to weigh in & for you to expand

I like this take.

Urist do you think he shouldnt be in the townbloc given what I said about him, or is there something else on your mind about TW?

My gut's been telling me tw's posts have something wrong with them throughout the entire game so far. I've correctly scumread him before off of D1 tone, but I'm not sure whether to trust what I feel (have a nasty track record of tunneling and lynching town), nor do I believe in my ability to lynch tw off of what's essentially meta.

This is what came to mind when I read #209. Within this playerlist, it makes sense for scum!tw to be forcing a townbloc in order to live through the game. What I'm afraid about is that if it really is scum!tw and this artificial townbloc was established, it means serious trouble for town.

Likewise, if it's town!tw, he wouldn't need to be making and be within a townbloc from D1. All I'm saying is that don't ever conftown tw this game (exception ofcourse being mechanical) and read his intentions behind his posts, not just the vibe he's giving off.

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VOTE: ojoi better place for my vote right now

@Micc believe faustiv is due for a prod.

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wild guess at tw!faustiv team

not feeling scum on either wagon right now but I dunno where else to place my vote

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Universally agreed group of unflipped conf-town

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@Micc I will be on v/la for the next week

Will try to check in atleast every two days but likely no wallposts from me

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Prefering a ojoi lynch via her tone and VCA. Gjt isnt pinging scum and my gut tells me theres scum on his wagon.

Also, with a tw mech clear we can pretty much win the game via PoE

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@Urist

i'm liking your contributions but feel like you're only giving them when prompted to do so. have you got any idea of where you want to head lynch wise for this day?

I was kinda holding off on calling this out but I don't believe any of Urist's contributions lol

</3

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VOTE: Urist for good measures

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lol JV

VOTE: ojoi this L-1

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Jackson hammering when they said to not hammer clearly shows that they are trying to mislead us into thinking they are scum because they are salty that they are not scum.

If JV is scum then I am flying ass laser pumpkin this game

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JV bamboozled us with fakehammer

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TW is town trying to mislead town into lynching town.

so scum must be outside of the 5 lynch related players then

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Writing from Singapore Chinatown

@tw for the amount of games Ive been in, my game is actually pretty bad regardless of alignment. Either I busypost and not do much D1 and try to sort once flips happen, or I tunnel my reads throughout the rest of the game, of which are usually incorrect. Neither playstyle is good and Im inclined to make my play less bad.

If I may ask, do you have any suggestions for me, especially engaging and sorting players throughout the game, but more importantly D1?

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suggestions wrt...?

Like, how to interact with and sort players. Say, how I could start discussions with players this game.

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Here's my N1 notes:

"Gyro - null, possible mislynch target D2, see D2 interactions + motives
Gjt - scummy, bad posts (ISO 1, vs TW possibly scum agenda, ISO 9, ISO 12, possible Gyro D2 mislynch setup), quickhammer null, interact, ask for reads and watch for SvS talk, (faustiv did talk about not wanting to be scum in games)
Alex - light scum, possible deepwolf, more interactions D2, see Alex!Gjt interactions
Thomoth - towny, town motivated posts, possible mislynch target for unconventional writing style, ask to contribute more - valuable player if interacting
tw - null, #372 link 3 good joke, do not tunnel - use real evidence and sort properly, meta read multiple games
JV - town
Uncrowned - likely town"

Transcribed in human language:

{JV}
{Thomoth}
{Gyro, tw} - null
{Alex, Gjt}

I like Thomoth's posts: believe them to be town driven, even if I don't agree with all their reads. His odd style is lynchbaity, but he can be a valuable player with interactions.

Gyro is about complete null, will need to push him on interactions today.

tw has pinged both sides (town/scum) with his posts this game ("pockety" playstyle scummy, general vibe towny). Pulling back my "instinctive" scumread on him because I don't believe it's accurate enough for me to tunnel. Unlikely D2 lynch and N2 kill (if scum/JV town), so today's about trying to sort him through his posts and interactions.

Liked Alex's intro, but reread of his ISO gave me deepwolf vibes. Will need to sort D2 and read player interactions.

I take back my D1 townread on Gjt: it relied quite heavily upon Ojoi flipping scum. His quickhammer reminds me of an ABR scumplay article that encourages scum to quickhammer (quickhammering can actually make you be townread because the act is too scummy to be scum). Not a strong scumread, just the player I'm currently the most suspicious of.

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I forgot sry Uncr - most recent scumgames
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=80979
https://www.mafiacolosseum.com/threads/ ... sotis.188/

most recent towngames
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=81174
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=81440
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=81134 (as wooper)
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=80863 (tw then wooper)


I have more meta than most folks onsite so if you're looking for how I respond to certain things as a particular alignment, let me know.

I've been taking it easy a bit lately wrt number of games and haven't been rolling scum so often. sorry for off-site game link, I'd normally avoid it, but I think it shows a wider scumrange than the onsite game

^That second towngame link tho

I'll be flying today and tomorrow, but should be able to get more involved in the game after that.

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@Thomth the multiball post was just me messing around (no multiball in newbies ). Can you explain your reads on JV and Alex?

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VOTE: gjt scummy D2 intro

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town gyro

plz lynch between Gjt/Alex today

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i think i just want to call urist town

gyro i'm less sure of, like
in our last game where he was town he didn't give a stuff about how he was perceived
for everything he does which looks better here, there is the like
unstated fact that he knows it looks better
he's trying to look towny regardless of his alignment : /

Why I town ducky

Thomth is actually probably town

VOTE: thomth

I thought he posted well under pressure - not a strong read and I'm obviously fallible. I'll sheep you a bit.

Why is Thomth at L-1 if you feel he's town?

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Has Urist even posted recently? Oh i see Pvpurist.

He might actually be my 2nd mafia tell because of his act, i feel like it isnt out of realm of possibility that one mafia says im town and the other goes against me so then if 1 ends being scum the other looks ‘good’, you get me?

Urist/another SE leaning urist now and Gjt are my maf picks

I'm losing you a bit here. I'd assume you would have scumread both Gjt and me before this post for it to have happened. This assumes that I'm pocketing you without a legit reason (which isn't the case), AND I'm partners with Gjt and is actively bussing him (which would be foolish for me to do). Aside from this possible scum interaction, why the scumread on Gjt and me, and who is your third scumread?

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VOTE: gjt

I stated my reasons of me being sus of him

RIP didn't see this before posting #556. Can you tell us who you definitely are against lynching, is null about, and would advocate lynch for today?

Right now I'm reading your list as this, do correct me if I'm wrong:

{Gyro}
{JV, Thomth}
{tw, Alex} - null
{Gjt, Urist}

My readlist is about the same, minus the being at the bottom. I am interested in your reasons for the scumread on me and would like if you'd share it.

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town gyro

plz lynch between Gjt/Alex today

Why town gyro?

#527 towny vibe. How's your read on him?

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@Gjt I see how Thomth's playstyle comes across as possibly anti-town, but anti-town or uncharasmatic doesn't always mean scum (example, Ojoi flipping doc and another D1 lynch flipping doc in a prior game I subbed in whom had an anti-town or weird playstyle). Aside from his way of wording, why do you feel he's scum, by PoE (if so, may you provide us with a readlist?), or by geniune read? (if so, please case him when convenient)

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@Thomth can you name the player that you're definitely against lynching today and the player you're least against lynching today?

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That's my posts for the day. Yakuza soundtrack best btw.

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I'll reread Thomth's interactions seeing as just about everybody here's scumreading him. We should play out this day and try to get as much contributions from people as possible because I'm not confident on the D2 lynches right now.

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Has Urist even posted recently? Oh i see Pvpurist.

He might actually be my 2nd mafia tell because of his act, i feel like it isnt out of realm of possibility that one mafia says im town and the other goes against me so then if 1 ends being scum the other looks ‘good’, you get me?

Urist/another SE leaning urist now and Gjt are my maf picks

Think this is your case on me. Assume if Gjt or me is lynched D2 and flip town and the other survives N2, how might your reads progress D3?

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VOTE: Gyro

JV!Thom feels tvt. Gyro is policy lynch.