Newbie 1968 - Game Over

[Kerset]

I took my time and analyzed this game. That was so long and exhausting.
Gyro is the most scummy here. My second suspect is Jackson but i am alone in this opinion so it has to wait for D3. I am not sure about them being paired.
The worst is towny but he should have been killed by maf for townleading. NK1 was activity-oriented after all.
Gjt gives very newbish vibes so it is hard to read him. His push on tw looks genuine but his defense around #333 looks staged.
Thomth is god tier town, god confirmed this to me by himself.
Alex is fine, he is unpaired with gyro but he would fit as JV partner. Topic good to be discussed after todays flip.
Urist is odd. I don't see him solving his scumreads at all. I guess i will need to look at his meta. Blank votes is not something i would expect here.

[Kerset]

gjt get an avatar

[Kerset]

hey i got deciding vote as fresh replacement! How adorable. Although some of you may want to chat with me so i will give you time.

[Kerset]

intent on gyro ofc

[Kerset]

*sad Chiaki emote*

[Kerset]

Well your gameplay is based on counter voting rather then scum hunting. You seems to be survivalist oriented and there is nothing i could give you towncredit for. It could be took as policy lynch but i am not convinced that you are just frustrated townie type.

[Kerset]

That is the missing thing

Spoiler: it

You know what for now I'm willing to take my vote off

UNVOTE: Thomth

Your post just got me thinking @PvtUrist I am so used to playing much larger number games I am using the wrong mindset. In a typical 20 person game I would have no issue lynching Thomth regardless because the flip would give us much info. I still think they could well be scum, but wanna think it over more and hopefully hear something before someone hammers. plus I'm not gonna be able to come back for a few hours so wanna chance to read up later. You are potentially right about Thomth, I'm not so sure, but that's my opinion. I'm not gonna do a full reads list because most or just leans. Right now I would say Scum is Thomth and The Worst. JV is my highest up Town Lean.

I know this doesn't answer you 100% but I don't have time right now to do full ISOs

Idk really, my stance has not really changed, I'm still not against a Thomth Lynch nor would I be against the worst for a lynch.

Question for you. After one of our previous convos younsaid you think you know the Scum Team now, since then you listed 3 people you wouldn't be against Lynching and a to remember you pushed for Thomth when your role comes up when your dead. I don't know if your hinting at some investigative role, but am curious to your thoughts of thinking you know the 2 scum, but happy with the lynch of 4 people

I'm noticing a few pocketing attempts which imo is never a good imagine

could you point these out to me?

To me your coming across the most scummy, you seem to be trying to take some Town Lead and your talk about post game on D1 just seems ridiculous, easy to fool people into following you.

My first post is far from Scummy, its genuine opinion brought on from reading thread which I didn't start in. Chances are I will get lynched, but doesn't mean I lose. Inactives are easy targets/mislynches and their replacements are instantly put down as Scum and lynched. Guilty of falling for it myself and find 90% of the time it's a mislynch.

I'm almost 100% certain their is a scum vote on me, shouldn't be stupid enough to have 2. I think it's you currently

VOTE: the worst

From thread play I believe Gyro slipped with stating that an SE is scum and has continued that path whilst also throwing shade at me. Now when I replaced in I was 100% certain there was a scum vote on me. Uncrowned was Town which leaves Gyro and the worst. The worst was my first thought and there is still something there in my gut, but I also don't think both Scum would be on the same wagons and they were both on the same people at times with their votes. Maybe this was a tactic because Scum wouldn't normally do this. Gyro has thrown both Town and Scum comments at the worst, but is certain me and Urist are scum. Me for sure because I questioned his defence of Ojoi once they had been lynched. Of course the Town vibe was correct especially as they Scum and knew. Got very defensive with that for a question I never even expected a reply from. Been on my back since.

Because Gyro has done nothing other than make me believe they are Scum ever since. Completely tunneled on me because I questioned their Town vibe on Ojoi during the fake lynch. I am so sure Gyro is Scum I'm willing to bet my entire future of playing Mafia on it. I'm almost as convinced with the worst as well. I believe the other tell is when Gyro said that me and an SE is Scum. I'm taking that as himself and the worst, if I had to go with anyone else I'd say PvtUrist, but I'm confident in Scum being Gyro and the worst. I was wrong before, but I wasn't the only one. I'm very confident I am right this time. I don't think anyone is gonna change their mind, so I feel it's in your hands @thomth. I admit I was all for you being anti Town, but majority of that feeling has gone. My only other 100% confident Town is JV. I believe Alex to be Town Urist to be Town everyone except Gyro and the worst. There's always gonna be a little doubt which is why I'm only saying I'm very certain on Gyro and JV

The best thing i can find in gyro ISO is readlist.

[Kerset]

VOTE: Gyro I'll be around plenty before EOD

cmon you didn't need to hammer this already

[Kerset]

Hi Kerset

Did you know that i have only one game without duck in it?

[Kerset]

Gyro and Gjt both don't feel like they want to die. Gyro doubly so. I might actually be ok with Kerset calling a preferred lynch in their next post and that person claiming.

Wow are you wondering about day 3 lynch already?

[Kerset]

Did you play with urist before?

[Kerset]

Well in end i would choose gyro anyway.

[Kerset]

Hi RC, bye RC

[Kerset]

Could someone explain how is the worst alive?

[Kerset]

I know for a fact they won't

After something like this i really want to see claim.

[Kerset]

If I am the cop/tracker my predecessor failed to get results and so did i.

[Kerset]

hm math points at me because

Votecount 2.03

Gjt (2) -

PvtUrist, Gyro Zeppeli

Gyro Zeppeli (2) -

the worst, JacksonVirgo

Not Voting (3) -

Thomth, Alexcellent, Gjt

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-12-11 15:45:00).

there was either scum who early jumped on his partner as counterwagon or was one of wagon initialization. Meantime my slot was idle.
Anyway you still need to solve this on lylo and it will be {tw, gjt, jv}. As i said yesterday jv is most likely to be scum. When you look at his actions through this game, you will see that his activity is at decent level and he is definitely catching up with every event. Even so he is unable to read this game. All this time there were some unclear events but JV never address them, things goes under is radar. It feels like he would know the alignments all along and with PR i finally saw his reaction to something he wasn't aware of.

[Kerset]

Gjt was kind of the opposite of this. He found his own lead on tw, which was clearly incorrect but had straight progression behind it. His activity was low, which makes him harder to read and I can't judge whenever his push on gyro was generous. His hammer on d1 wasn't really indicative.

[Kerset]

hm math points at me because

Votecount 2.03

Gjt (2) -

PvtUrist, Gyro Zeppeli

Gyro Zeppeli (2) -

the worst, JacksonVirgo

Not Voting (3) -

Thomth, Alexcellent, Gjt

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-12-11 15:45:00).

there was either scum who early jumped on his partner as counterwagon or was one of wagon initialization. Meantime my slot was idle.
Anyway you still need to solve this on lylo and it will be {tw, gjt, jv}. As i said yesterday jv is most likely to be scum. When you look at his actions through this game, you will see that his activity is at decent level and he is definitely catching up with every event.

Even so he is unable to read this game. All this time there were some unclear events but JV never address them, things goes under is radar. It feels like he would know the alignments all along and with PR i finally saw his reaction to something he wasn't aware of

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Could you clarify what you mean by this (in the bold)?

There are some people actions, which should normally cause suspicion. For example TW vote on ojoi. It came out of no where but JV had no doubts about it and simply went along. As I read his gameplay he didn't bother to question potentially odd behaviors and it wasn't caused by his lack of activity.

[Kerset]

Not sure why you're thinking I just outright bussed Gyro from d1 onwards.

Because I have seen scum like this before. Meantime gjt was counter wagon to gyro and got voted by him.

[Kerset]

I'm genuinely stumped at mo, I honestly thought I had it sussed. I will be voting between either Kerset or JV. Gonna take another look at Thomths posts and see if I can lock something in. 1 of them is Scum 1 is Town. Either way we should get the win, but I'd still rather lynch Scum today.

@kerset what can you say in defence of Thomths posts? I turned on them jumping in on a vote which JV was also on, I was probably trusting JV a little too much at time as they were my top Town read. I withdrew my concerns on Thomths weird posting. Couldnt even rule themselves out as Scum and was writing in 3rd person then just before they left I was starting to suspect them again. I didn't pressure as despite concerns I was adamant on scum being the worst and Gyro and wanted to stick with Gyro

He didn't get emotional or panic under pressure. He seems he was rather sad.

[Kerset]

I'm somewhat impatient, could we lynch a boi?

ok VOTE: jackson

[Kerset]

Seems strange that have asked couple times how is the worth still alive. Obviously in my head at the time its because I thought they were Scum.

Do you know why did I except TW to die? Take your guess.

[Kerset]

I am not trying to be rude. I just want see you POV.

[Kerset]

Alex, digging deep doesn't guarantee that you will find diamonds. Don't dig below 14. Even I stated that VCA points at me being scum.

[Kerset]

I mean below 5.