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Post #864 (isolation #203) » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:25 pm
Postby JacksonVirgo »
My vote is going to be on this, if you want the reasoning let me know. I'll reply in a few hours when I have time VOTE: Kerset
Either way, if you all believe me to be town we can lynch this off. If it flips town (which I doubt) we can lynch off gjt but I swear to god if the same shit happens with worst, me and someone else like last game and Town loses I swear to shit lmfao
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In post 864, JacksonVirgo wrote:My vote is going to be on this, if you want the reasoning let me know. I'll reply in a few hours when I have time VOTE: Kerset
Either way, if you all believe me to be town we can lynch this off. If it flips town (which I doubt) we can lynch off gjt but I swear to god if the same shit happens with worst, me and someone else like last game and Town loses I swear to shit lmfao
I'd be keen to know why on this one. I was leaning a bit more towards GJT/Gyro just throwing each other under the bus but I'm open minded
I am probably completely biased but I think gjt is town here, either way it's a tvs between kerset and gjt, we can lynch one today and one tomorrow and win.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
JV was my top Town read. I will re evaluate soon. I'm kinda busy at mo and a few errands to run. Hopefully have a bit more time in a few hours. There was the odd thing or 2 that had my questioning my opinion on JV late last phase, but wasn't enough to get me away from Gyro or the worst. I knew 100% about Gyro and had strong feeling about the worst which appears i was wrong about
Yeah some of my content is always a bit iffy, sure duckyboi can confirm that. I am usually half dead inside and tired whenever I post which is probably the cause of it but eh
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there was either scum who early jumped on his partner as counterwagon or was one of wagon initialization. Meantime my slot was idle.
Anyway you still need to solve this on lylo and it will be {tw, gjt, jv}. As i said yesterday jv is most likely to be scum. When you look at his actions through this game, you will see that his activity is at decent level and he is definitely catching up with every event. Even so he is unable to read this game. All this time there were some unclear events but JV never address them, things goes under is radar. It feels like he would know the alignments all along and with PR i finally saw his reaction to something he wasn't aware of.
Not really 'math', just obvious shit throughout the game. There was something Thomth said that looked like someone else wrote it, Thomth has been on my bad side mostly throughout the game but turned somehow to a slight town-read on my behalf. This may be a lapse in my judgement but they're a lot more townier than your slot is. Not sure why you're thinking I just outright bussed Gyro from d1 onwards. Also what do you mean by 'catching up with every event'? What things haven't I addressed?
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In post 562, Gjt wrote:You know what for now I'm willing to take my vote off
UNVOTE: Thomth
Your post just got me thinking @PvtUrist I am so used to playing much larger number games I am using the wrong mindset. In a typical 20 person game I would have no issue lynching Thomth regardless because the flip would give us much info. I still think they could well be scum, but wanna think it over more and hopefully hear something before someone hammers. plus I'm not gonna be able to come back for a few hours so wanna chance to read up later. You are potentially right about Thomth, I'm not so sure, but that's my opinion. I'm not gonna do a full reads list because most or just leans. Right now I would say Scum is Thomth and The Worst. JV is my highest up Town Lean.
I know this doesn't answer you 100% but I don't have time right now to do full ISOs
I agree with your scumreads honestly, from gut (and other stuff) this is my current scum-list or at least it's the list I think will give me the most information considering
{urist}
{alex}
{gjt, gyro}
{duckyboi}
{thomst}
JV, can I take you back in time a week and ask what was going through your mind here? I noticed that on D1 you seemed to be scum reading Gyro, but he seemed to drop down your list a bit on D2. What changed?
I am not exactly sure to be honestly, I just had my strongest town-reads against Gyro and assumed it was me being biased.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
Yeah that's gonna do you well, again in end-game I am never in the right mindset to defend myself and it usually ends up in worst betraying me. Lynch me and then Town loses, I am not confident worst will make the right lynch if I die today tbf because I don't really know either (sorry boo :c)
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
Yeah that's gonna do you well, again in end-game I am never in the right mindset to defend myself and it usually ends up in worst betraying me. Lynch me and then Town loses, I am not confident worst will make the right lynch if I die today tbf because I don't really know either (sorry boo :c)
Is this directed at Kerset?
The first six words, yes. After that bit it's just generalized, for nobody really just poking fun at my last game.
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In post 153, Uncrowned wrote:JV you didn't want to vote Thomth earlier but you're cool with him at L-1 now?
I personally didn't want to vote them for my own reasons and I believe I've explained why (or that might have been another game), there is no reason why they needed to vote and then instantly unvote when someone brought up it was L-1
This has kind of gone under my radar. What was your mindset in this interaction with Ojoi? This feels kind of manipulative. Clarify if I'm incorrect but you asked Ojoi to unvote Thomth out of fear of the wagon being too fast, they did so and then you appear to become dismissive of the L-1 wagon? You then say there is no reason they needed to vote and instantly unvote when it's brought up that they're at L-1, however you voted Ojoi before she unvoted so the timeline of events there doesn't really add up with your explanation at the time.
Also as a side note, that L-1 Thomth wagon that was on early D1 had TW, myself, Uncrowned and Ojoi - 4 townies. I don't know if that's relevant at all but I wanted to mention it as it was a very fast wagon that was entirely driven by confirmed townies.
I just didn't want someone to be lolhammered but then someone said that it was fine because nobody would stupidly hammer it I believe so then I changed my opinion on votes that put someone at L-1. Regarding the second bit, not sure of the relevancy there?
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Post #918 (isolation #216) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:17 pm
Postby JacksonVirgo »
Spoiler:
In post 481, Thomth wrote:Since Uncrowned was nightkilled I am guessing that scum sheeped what the worst said on page one because everything Urist has said is most likely wrong. Unless his one "srs" vote on the worst was the only accurate post.
I am leaning right now of Alexcellent being Town. So I feel more comfortable pointing the finger at JV.
Gyro hasnt said to much so maybe they are scum.
I feel there is a good chance of at least one of them either, JV or Gyro being scum and I will sheep/bus either of those two today if I get the chance.
If one or both JV and Gyro is town then I feel it must be Alexcellent and maybe Gjt.
If all 4 Alexcellent JV Gyro and Gjt are town then I am assuming scum is both the worst and Thomth which I also feel is unlikely.
To simplify my train of thought here is a list that shows who I think is the most most scummy to townie. Ironically I feel it is quite possible that scum did not vote for ojoi and town pulled the classic move of lynching themselves.
More or less depends on whether JV is town or scum.
Gyro
Jackson
Alexcellent
Gjt
Thomth
the worst
Urist
This is the start of what I see as scum!thomth setting up a chain lynch.
Here is another post where JV claims they are mafia. Also the large amount of questions makes me feel like JV feels pressured.
Putting shade onto my joke
In post 526, Thomth wrote:Also I question why I am asked about my read on Alexcellent when I state I only feel they could be scum if gyro/jv are not.
Practically linked gyro and myself together and added alex to the chain lynch.
In post 529, Thomth wrote:If not gyro and jv then I would suspect gjt and alexcellent however I have nothing on them.
Linked gyro and myself together as well as adding gjt/alex into the chain lynch.
In post 611, Thomth wrote:They have alluded themselves to being scum more then once so what the fuck?
VOTE: JV
Again brought up my memephase joke
In post 676, Thomth wrote:Here is my anti-town list in no particular order:
JV- Claimed themself as scum multiple times.
Urist- Voted for himself twice and is to busy to post atm.
Gyro- Not contributing much but can turn lyrics into speech which I like. Has hinted at themself being scum as well.
Me- Alot of confusing posts, do I have a point? Why hide it behind non sense if I do? Have hinted at myself being scum as well.
faustiv- very little content, mentioned game was slow, then disappeared.
Brought up my joke again
In post 691, Thomth wrote:Anyways, I put my scum!JV glasses back on and my
intent to hammer Gjt
is back.
If they saw me as scum, why intend to hammer someone else?
In post 694, Thomth wrote:My reasoning behind this was Uncrowned was the NK D1 and I thought they were a very useful town. I feel Gjt is a very useful town as well so the fact they had so many votes on them was alarming.
In general I am foreseeing JV/Gyro/Me/Gjt as being a town block tunneling eachother. Very bad for town if so.
And then all out of the blue they're claiming all of us are a town block? What the shit
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Post #919 (isolation #217) » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:19 pm
Postby JacksonVirgo »
Spoiler:
In post 747, Kerset wrote:I took my time and analyzed this game. That was so long and exhausting.
Gyro is the most scummy here. My second suspect is Jackson but i am alone in this opinion so it has to wait for D3. I am not sure about them being paired.
The worst is towny but he should have been killed by maf for townleading. NK1 was activity-oriented after all.
Gjt gives very newbish vibes so it is hard to read him. His push on tw looks genuine but his defense around #333 looks staged.
Thomth is god tier town, god confirmed this to me by himself.
Alex is fine, he is unpaired with gyro but he would fit as JV partner. Topic good to be discussed after todays flip.
Urist is odd. I don't see him solving his scumreads at all. I guess i will need to look at his meta. Blank votes is not something i would expect here.
there was either scum who early jumped on his partner as counterwagon or was one of wagon initialization. Meantime my slot was idle.
Anyway you still need to solve this on lylo and it will be {tw, gjt, jv}. As i said yesterday jv is most likely to be scum. When you look at his actions through this game, you will see that his activity is at decent level and he is definitely catching up with every event. Even so he is unable to read this game. All this time there were some unclear events but JV never address them, things goes under is radar. It feels like he would know the alignments all along and with PR i finally saw his reaction to something he wasn't aware of.
The replacement continues that kind of thought
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
What do people feel about this? Gyro seemed to be pushing against and Ojoi or Thomth lynch. Ojoi obvs was town. Is it same mentality with Thomth, Gyro knew he was going to flip town and wanted the sweet townie points by staying off the wagon? I presume that's why he stayed clear of the Ojoi wagon. This just makes the one random vote on Thomth even harder to explain though.
Puts Thomth(Kerset) at L-2 after I unvote him so not ballsy enough to put him at L-1. Wagon dies down and moves to Faustiv(GJT), Gyro puts Faustiv at L-2. Just looking for a lynch that will stick?
Honestly, not exactly sure what the heck they were doing. Maybe trying to get thomth/gyro to look more towny by refusing a lynch with a fella they knew would flip green??? Though with the votes, if that's what happened I don't remember sorry, that seems like a good reason to say 'I was voting thomth before' when they die as a ballsy as shit way to get town-cred or something??
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Post #935 (isolation #220) » Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:13 am
Postby JacksonVirgo »
In post 933, Gjt wrote:Sorry busier weekend than expected. I was certainly all for a lynch on the worst, my next was Thomth. As I'm wrong about the worst I can't find enough to being a vote onto JV. As stated before my intention is to still vote on Kerset. I believe we're at L-1 and still have 4 half days. I don't wanna be wrong again and hammer wrong again so wanna be sure. Its TvS with JV and Kerset. If Kerset flips Town then JV is certainly Scum
Hmmm, I was going to be paranoid and say this is you chain-lynching kerset then me but of course that's your pov. It's mine towards you lol
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Post #948 (isolation #222) » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:56 pm
Postby JacksonVirgo »
Not gonna lie, expected you to die here Alex. Didn't think they could roleblock and kill on the same night, that's a bit bs. Anyway, I lowkey also wanted the worst/me/scum again just for the lols but it didn't happen :c
I wonder why duckyboi was killed over you though
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Post #950 (isolation #223) » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:30 pm
Postby JacksonVirgo »
In post 949, Alexcellent wrote:Mannnn the fact you're bringing it up is adding so much WIFOM to it. I'm pretty sure I'm lynching GJT today but I have to be sure.
Scenario A is that GJT killed TW because I was still showing suspicion of you yesterday and scum!GJT probably thinks there's a better chance of convincing me that JV is scum, whereas TW seemed reasonably set on the scum being in Kerset/GJT
Scenario B is that JV killed TW because he would prefer to deal with me in LyLo over TW and so we can have this WIFOMy conversation
Given the mafia left is roleblocker I basically just become a confVT, same as TW
Oof sorry for breaking your brain here
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In post 6, bugspray wrote:jv is playing really bold, way different from last game where he was a total coward, now his post exude a newfound confidence
he's scum
Incorrect, just this isn't my first game here anymore and thus I has confidence
I was also faking PR from day dot to attract the kill
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Post #973 (isolation #230) » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:50 pm
Postby JacksonVirgo »
In post 970, the worst wrote:i had a similar read and wrote it off for that exact reason. :p
Oof, yeah okay. I am usually like this in all my off MS games (maybe excluding my first ever game). It's just my previous game here is the first game on a different site and I was a tad nervous lol
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Post #975 (isolation #231) » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:54 pm
Postby JacksonVirgo »
In post 974, Gjt wrote:Was in 2 minds last night who to kill, had a feeling the worst would instantly vote me, think both had me as scum, but felt had a better chance with Alex
Yeah, if I was in your position I would have done the same.
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Post #983 (isolation #232) » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:26 pm
Postby JacksonVirgo »
In post 981, Uncrowned wrote:But I also got some major stuff wrong. Thought TW was playing sort of null on purpose because he was a PR, turns out that was wrong lol
Turns out we both had the same wrong read on duckyboi
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you're proooooooobably town
