Newbie 1982 | Cellular Automata | Over

[GeorgeBailey]

RVs questions:
What's the best smash Bros game?

Which ice cream flavor is your favorite and what's so good about it?

Are you happy with the role you randomed?

What piece of old technology do you think should be brought back?

Buses or trains?

1. Melee. No items, Fox only, Final Destination.

2. Cookies and Cream. Makes me feel like a child.

2. Roles are a spook. I am my own Role, and the role is me.

3. Lobotomies. I call dibs.

4. CHOO CHOOOOOOOOO *CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA* CHOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOO

VOTE: tse

[GeorgeBailey]

Gb you have such a pleasant girth

Aw shucks

[GeorgeBailey]

For me it's brawl

Who do you main? I can play a mean DeDeDe.

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: bugspray

apart from question 3 which feels like role-fishing.

Party pooper, that was the best question.

[GeorgeBailey]

Seems like trying to pocket me by extending various pointless conversations to build rapport

The former for putting effort into answering the RVS questions

Gimme a break here, the game just started and I was getting antsy to post. Not a lot I could have worked with. Plus I had 4 hours till my next lecture.

Anyways,

How confident is your scum read on me?
@Bugs @GB @Luca

SL. The way you handled your wagon seemed overly defensive, just for getting to L-2.

Like,

Honestly, if your all town scum should just quick hammer me for lols so the host can get a scummy for the game with the quickest Day 1 lynch.
Or has that already been beat?

But it's not very confident right now. The only thing that's throwing me off, is that, if there aren't scum on your wagon right now, wouldn't it be a very opportune time to bring it to L-1? Or, who's his scum partner pushing a counter-wagon?

[GeorgeBailey]

Ok, so first off. Sorry for absence. (Just got a new job and I bit off more than I could chew with these games. That's all on me, and i'm trying here.)

Second, the TSE wagon is stagnant, I haven't been a fan of TSE's recent response to his wagon (i'll get more into that tonight) But I think there should be a little mix-up. Chazary has been a bit under the radar.

VOTE: Chazary

I understand scumreading TSE for the Mason claim, (in a noob game, always follow poe's law), but I don't see many other reason to scumread him right now. And the way he reacted to it, didn't seem opportunistic. JacksonVirgo obviously knows him and said that's his style. (Oh god the Town Of Salem Forums look really bad though). TSE is still a scumlean but that's not a hard scumclaim.

Did anyone else notice that Jackson is simultaneously tactically distancing themselves from AND emotionally buddying with TSE? This is calculated behavior and I'm curious about the motivation behind it.

Jack and TSE do have good scum equity together. Or they could just be good friends that find it hard to distance during games.

[GeorgeBailey]

Check his iso from newbie 1980 to see what I'm talking about

I was scumread that game for shitposting too much, i've been trying to tone it down a tiny bit

[GeorgeBailey]

I'll hurt my ass

wherever I want.

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Although most of Jackson's posts were chit-chatting with TSE, then townreading him for meta reasons. And Jackson has been doing most of the buddying too.... Big think time.

[GeorgeBailey]

Thinking

I would never

[GeorgeBailey]

Pour one out for Clidd.

F

[GeorgeBailey]

@TSE you're still my strongest but that's not saying a lot. Especially when we have 3 unreadable slots.

[GeorgeBailey]

Kitten's entrance is really worrying, and idk how much to chalk it up to Newb.

[GeorgeBailey]

Imagine

not

having 10 town reads rn.

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https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 7&t=103805

Who were you in this? I can't find where exactly you claim maisons.

[GeorgeBailey]

What's your reason for scumreading me?

[GeorgeBailey]

tse youve been more towny lately which is good but i dont think ill trust you until you're on a wagon that flips scum

Man, trying to read TSE right now got me acting strange. He's playing really different from his scum game last game. He seemed to be overly aggressive and taunting.

[GeorgeBailey]

He isn't a fan of TSE's response, but decides it isn't worth pursuing because the wagon is stagnant? Since when has a stagnant wagon been a reason not to pursue a scumread?

A stagnant wagon can mean one of two things: 1. It's a scum-driven wagon that's only gaining traction/being pushed by scum, or 2. We're hitting Scum and their partner is pushing a counter-wagon.

I don't scumread Chaz, I actually nullread them before. Which is why my vote stayed on him for pressure.

[GeorgeBailey]

first George says he doesn't like his reaction, then he says the reaction wasn't opportunistic

I don't like his reaction

to his wagon

, but his

mason

claim doesn't seem opportunistic.

[GeorgeBailey]

Also one of the only times I can post is at like 1:30am, gimme a break here.

[GeorgeBailey]

I'm going to be very active today since Tuesday is my coup de grace day of posting anyways.

[GeorgeBailey]

'Oh, maybe Luca/Bugs are scum driving this wagon, let me vote Chaz instead'

That isn't my point.

I did it for a few reasons. I wanted to see if Chaz would become the counter wagon to TSE. And because I believe Chaz's interactions with Chuck weren't sufficient for a TR. He was null at the time. I think he's TL now.

And Chaz didn't really become the counter-wagon since no one was really pushing it.

[GeorgeBailey]

Jackson Virgo, most of their ISO is heavily defending TSE, and they haven't tried to do a lot of sorting either. Their current vote is even on someone scumreading TSE. I think this more likely to come from scum than from town, contrast to Chazary's opinion.

1. This could be scumteam (that would be kinda funny given that they're friends) and their partner is going full damage control
2. This could be scum pocketing town, and then when a mislynch happens they reap townie points.

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

[GeorgeBailey]

First of all, I doubt TSE will flip town here so if I defend them that's why.

So you scumread him?

Also I'm the bussing type so I have no idea why you're using that against me.

How am I supposed to know this?

"woah I can pretend to not scum-read them and get town points ezpz"

It's more than just not scum-reading someone, you're actively defending them.

Though if they do flip scum, consider me baffled

But you just said

First of all, I doubt TSE will flip town here so if I defend them that's why.

[GeorgeBailey]

I don't understand the point of this. So you're confident about your read on TSE but don't want to L-1 him yet. And then you try and convince the rest of us why we shouldn't be afraid of L-1ing if we're confident in our reads. Like, yeah but who says any of us are confident in our reads. And we're probably all thinking the same thing as far as waiting for more activity from other players. So why feel the need to urge others to L-1 someone?

Putting someone at l-1 even if they flip scum and getting an early night is still not an optimal situation for town. We have a lot of quiet slots who we should want to hear more from before the deadline ends.

to +1 this, we're in a newbie game right now. Lolhammers are real and they happen lmao.

[GeorgeBailey]

@Jackson What are your top townreads right now? I know you've implied Bug and I are your top Scumreads.

[GeorgeBailey]

I don't care if policy lynching is a spook

Lynching is a spook.

-maxstriner 2012

[GeorgeBailey]

imma be a bit weird here but this entrance post after subbing in gives me weird vibes, like I see defusal here + with the lack of interaction with bare mentions of bugspray, and bugspray's similar avoidance of interacting with you + your slot having voted bugspray right away(not rly that big but small coincidences add up), I am semi confident about this, at the very least I think u 2 are the same alignment

So you're scumreading them because of their lack of interaction with each other? You gave a point for volxen, what's your point for scumreading bug?

[GeorgeBailey]

Overall, TSE and JV give me equal slight scum vibes, and while I'd rather lynch actual scum, I don't mind a mislynch to put it to rest.

Yikes, why are you fine with a mislynch on someone you don't think will flip red? I mean, JV is my top scumpick, and you said you'd be willing to vote for them. But you seem really passive about it. Like you know there's a good chance they'll flip green.

This is a strange post. First, the part about always following Poe's law. Context is key. Adhering to strict rules can get you in trouble.

Context is key, but it's lost on Newbies in this type of setup. Following poe's law let's Newbies know that it's a joke.

After reading it, I'm really not sure where GB stands with regard to TSE and Jackson Virgo

TSE is SL, and JV is SR.

[GeorgeBailey]

Koba's slot has been consistently wolfy.

Just an odd scumteam pick.

@Koba, what do you think of Luca's interactions with Bugspray?

[GeorgeBailey]

Stirner has Beetlejuiced a bit (check for time gaps in the iso) and dances on the fence wearing flip flops

I wear Crocs with wicked sick flames on the side actually.

[GeorgeBailey]

@Bug what do you think of JV? Why do you think TSE is a better pick?

[GeorgeBailey]

i agree with luca on this, that third question seems a bit suspicious

@Alora This post seems kinda weird and wolfy. Kittens is agreeing to Luca's comment but providing no further reasoning.

[GeorgeBailey]

compromise mislynch

Who else was Scumreading JV before me? I'm not trying to compromise with people's top scumreads. If I was, i'd be pushing TSE.

[GeorgeBailey]

scum!GB would tell people to read Atlas Shrugged

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Volx is at L-2 now btw

[GeorgeBailey]

Looking at DK, I think his initial stunt would have been far-fetched if he didn't actually have provable meta behind it, but he does. The recent flame-war

So now it comes to Volx.

Volx just seems like a low-activity-null-read right now. He could just be struggling to catch up (As Alora mentioned, but voted him?). We should probably give him a bit more time before putting at L-1/Hammer.

I'm still more comfortable with JV right now, their distancing with TSE seems really reactive and i'm confident they will flip red.

[GeorgeBailey]

The recent flame-war

erm....

I was going to say

The recent flame-war was HEATED and changed my read on Luca a bit. I still think Jackson is the best choice right now though.

[GeorgeBailey]

Well damn, Volx better get back quick before someone lolhammers him.

[GeorgeBailey]

I'd say i'm townreading DK. His reads were pretty solid.

[GeorgeBailey]

Geez. I don't want them at L-1 right now. That's reckless.

UNVOTE: All

I mean, I understand this mentality initially, but there's not really anymore newbs in this game. This is no one's first game. Lolhammering this early is pretty much a scum claim. And keeping Volx at L-1 would have been good pressure.

[GeorgeBailey]

You were Nullscum before but I think you're TownLean. For a while I got Luca/Bug Scum team vibes. You two were sheeping each other for a bit.

[GeorgeBailey]

Ok I think Bugs is Town, I like his thoughts above.

UNVOTE:

I agree that both George and TSE look scummy at the moment. The former for putting effort into answering the RVS questions and building rapport, and the latter for his ‘claim’.

VOTE: TSE

I'll hop on the thicker wagon
VOTE: tse

I really feel like gb is struggling to be himself this game VOTE: gb
I don't care if policy lynching is a spook, every lynch is a policy lynch it's just some policies aren't as universal

VOTE: George

L-2

That's fair. I still think TSE is the best bet though, tbh.

VOTE: TSE

VOTE: tse

Almost every time Luca has voted, before the recent debacles. Bug voted.

[GeorgeBailey]

oh and why/how. I think you answered the questions DK threw at you quite well. The whole flame-war looked more like a miscommunication error than scum struggling in a fight. And I think it was quite likely TvT.

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: Volx

State intent to hammer before hand

[GeorgeBailey]

UNVOTE: Volx who would Volx's scumpartner even be? And if scum "lolhammers" a PR that's best case scenario for them.

Yikes, uhhhh. Alora is right, L-2 is better.

[GeorgeBailey]

because the forum has bad unicode support
https://emojipedia.org/ghost/

There is a specter haunting MafiaTown.

[GeorgeBailey]

I don't feel like constantly having to keep up with everyone else when you all just keep hopping around.

Changing wagons D1 is healthy for the game state. It gives us more resources to vca and garner reads from people.

But weren't you considering Volx as a scumread earlier?

[GeorgeBailey]

So what have you garnered from the most recent wagons?

Nothing substantial, a flip gives better insights on wagons. If Volx flips scum, ok, who interacted/ didn't interact. If he flips town, was it co-ordinated by scum?

If he flips Town, then we can look at the TSE wagon. Was Volx a counter-wagon to TSE?

[GeorgeBailey]

Also:

Sorry for prod

. I started a full-time job recently and i'm trying to get into a schedule.

[GeorgeBailey]

Welp, time to mop floors for 8 hours.

[GeorgeBailey]

On break. Volx did you crumb your role at all? It just makes the claim a little more believable.

[GeorgeBailey]

Yikes guys, come on. People get Bug's pronoun wrong all the time. It's obvious they take it seriously so it makes sense that it bugs them.

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: TSE

TSE is at L-1 btw.

Please state intent to hammer before doing so.

[GeorgeBailey]

Yeah sorry. If its between Luca and Ts
SE. I'm more confident in the TSE flip.

[GeorgeBailey]

UNVOTE: TSE

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anyone?

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Oh yikes. That's a shame. I wanted to do something with my role T_T
GG everyone. Always fun playing with you Bugs. Thanks for the modding Plot!

[GeorgeBailey]

Oh yeah,the cellular automata stuff looked really cool.

I wonder why Alora was the NK. I thought Luca was the obvious NK.

[GeorgeBailey]

If it was Bugs that got lynched Day 1.
Me and Volxen could have easily won.
Would have bussed him Day 2 for Town Credit.

I think it was the survivalism that fucked you over. That and you claiming role cop during twilight.

Gb let's Hydra sometime. We can call it egospray I'll make the can shoot tiny stirners

This is great lmao. I was actually thinking of this earlier, but it was stirner spraying a can of bugspray.

[GeorgeBailey]

Gb I read your pt and I'm flattered

Aww. I read yours and now it makes sense why you scumread me so hard at the beginning lmao.

[GeorgeBailey]

What a hectic mistake.