Newbie 1982 | Cellular Automata | Over

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VOTE: tse 2 in a row?

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RVs questions:
What's the best smash Bros game?

Which ice cream flavor is your favorite and what's so good about it?

Are you happy with the role you randomed?

What piece of old technology do you think should be brought back?

Buses or trains?

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For me it's brawl. The SSE is very good and I think olimar was really cool on it

Chocolate or cookie dough or cookies and cream.... They all have very good sweet creamy tastes and different textures to fit any situation

Yes

CRT tvs are do so good

Trains

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What's so good about acai taste?

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Gb you have such a pleasant girth

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For me it's brawl

Who do you main? I can play a mean DeDeDe.

I don't play competitive smash but I think I was best at Samus when I played brawl (though a recently helped to a smashu tournament and it was neat watching the games)

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VOTE: bugspray

I dislike the RVS questions - they are unrelated to the game and therefore pointless, apart from question 3 which feels like role-fishing.

I'm just trying to find scum through a bit of investigation. Please don't try to police my play

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Could be some weird scum Gambit

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Claiming masons with another person is allowed in the rules

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VOTE: gb seems scummier than usual

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The tone and motivation I think are behind his posts come from scum. Seems like trying to pocket me by extending various pointless conversations to build rapport

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For me it's brawl

Who do you main? I can play a mean DeDeDe.

Contrast this with his response to the question. He gave an entirely flippant answer to best smash game but is suddenly invested in another answer to the same question.

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I'll hop on the thicker wagon
VOTE: tse

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Looks like l-2

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Was this a coordinated mason claim?

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Hard claiming mason like that for the meme only hurts town.

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Probably Town based on what?

Meta reasons, they're usually self-resolving anyway

Can you expand on this?

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I’ve just never been in a game where I had 3 votes on me so quickly that are actual votes,
I had 3 meme votes on me quickly but never 3 actually scum read votes.

yeah well you earned them like a big boy se

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Probably Town based on what?

Meta reasons, they're usually self-resolving anyway

can you like explain the meta reasons?

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Are you feeling nervous? Your posts kinda strike me that way which isn't really a tone you want to have. Scum has reasons to be nervous. Town doesn't so much have any yet

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Idk why you guys needed to know what I was up to lmao just a peek into my silly little life

This reads as extremely nervous to me

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Link the post

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FYI Chuck charzay has his pronouns as he/him. It's easier for everyone to just check because there's been a nonzero amount of times where someone uses the wrong pronoun and is misinterpreted because of how English can be vauge. Having easy to understand posts is invaluable.

Some useful town communication tips: you can link to posts by number
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That said, I still think his response wasn't written from a townie game-solving perspective.

I agree, his posts seem very reactivate and indicative of paranoia.

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TSE always does this stuff as Town, it's NAI here so if you're pushing them just for that it's opportunistic and I will hunt your ass down

Provide examples of games where this happens.

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Has happened

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TSE please link a completed game where you have pulled this shit before

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Anything from this site?

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That website is so ugly to look at deadass I'm just going to assume you're fucking with me unless you actually link the relevant posts from that thread sorry

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I'm not saying you're lying. I'm saying that website is ugly and I'm not going to trawl that thread on my phone to find your posts where you do the mistake you are repeating this game.
Do you know the definition of insanity?

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Can you explain that but coherent

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I'll defend myself when I know what I'm defending against

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My initial vote on tse was also literally rvs

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Like after you voted me, Bugs switched back to me.

forming wagons early on on day1 is the core of scumhunting.

all you've offered so far is flaccid deflection

@tse
Why am I more likely to be scum than GB?

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You are my strongest scum read and there is a wagon on you so you're right on thinking that I'm going to keep voting you for now. But don't you think it's really weird how quiet gb has been?

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Did anyone else notice that Jackson is simultaneously tactically distancing themselves from AND emotionally buddying with TSE? This is calculated behavior and I'm curious about the motivation behind it.

I think it's just like the mechanical wtf of this game mixed with friendship strains. JV is more like a nullread from me but I definitely scumread stirner. He usually memes a lot more in the games where I've seen him as town. Check his iso from newbie 1980 to see what I'm talking about

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I was referring to stirner for the meta reads

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Did anyone else notice that Jackson is simultaneously tactically distancing themselves from AND emotionally buddying with TSE? This is calculated behavior and I'm curious about the motivation behind it.

Jack and TSE do have good scum equity together. Or they could just be good friends that find it hard to distance during games.

Don't hurt your ass on that fence

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I'll hurt my ass

wherever I want.

Uwu

Thinking is a spook
-you at some point probably

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need everyone to post before we can enter true post rvs :/

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Probably my rqs
And it's meant to make people feel shifty

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i agree with luca on this, that third question seems a bit suspicious

This entrance is high key wolfy

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The claim is yikes tho

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It just doesn't feel like a rational pro-town move

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I scumread the 2 post wolf and stirner

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And you ofc

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Just say your reads bro

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like yeah tse is scummy but its useful just to get our reads out there so that we have more to go on
it can help others make more informed reads and allow ppl to poe

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Just say your reads bro

@chaz

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VOTE: Chaz

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TSE seems a lot more genuine tbh

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Since you like hopping on wagons so much I’ll hop on yours

VOTE: bugspray

I'm not caught up yet but this is a ridiculous omgus

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I'd love to put tse at l-1 but I want at least a few days of posting with all the players before we do that. People really love to be like oh no l1 but if you're confident in your read the worst case scenario is a bus lulhammer but in newbie I think the l1 fear is more justified

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Yikes is not AI
It's a literal meme claim

Stop shading

It's only a prank bro
Yeah well it was detrimental to town which is kinda a bad meme and the way tse has handled is p wack

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Also I am scumreading bugspray for that instant change of heart and george.

What change of heart?

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Bro that's l1

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Can't wait to shitpost in the dead thread

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Its not L-1 as Volxen unvoted.

Can’t say I really like this wagon tho. TSE looks much worse than Bugs from where I’m standing.

Thanks for ruining my fajehammer bait :(

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@jv can you elaborate on why you want me dead?

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tse youve been more towny lately which is good but i dont think ill trust you until you're on a wagon that flips scum

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that entrance is just so FUCKED

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nobody is laughing, it was an unfunny joke, it hurt town
i think for now the only course of action is for us to "agree to disagree" even though we all know that's centrist bullcrap

in the words of stirner
agreeing to disagree is a spook

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@TLOK do you have any reads? what do you think about the players in this game? how do you FEEL about them?

also you should go to the front page and answer those questions to help us get more informed reads on you

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if you want to catch the nk you don't do it by being village idiot. being village idiot makes you dodge the nk
there are better ways to cop a night kill

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Using something like “Bad, You Mason Claim”
To desperately form the first wagon of the game.

early day 1 wagons are usually there to help quickly end rvs and get people talking. your use of the word "desperately" either demonstrates a lack of understanding of what's going on or is an attempt to use your status of Semi Experienced to intentionally mislead more newbie townies

VOTE: TLOK i want you to post TLOK

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@TLOK

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oh the quoote didnt work LOL

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@TLOK do you have any reads? what do you think about the players in this game? how do you FEEL about them?

also you should go to the front page and answer those questions to help us get more informed reads on you

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I don't understand the point of this. So you're confident about your read on TSE but don't want to L-1 him yet. And then you try and convince the rest of us why we shouldn't be afraid of L-1ing if we're confident in our reads. Like, yeah but who says any of us are confident in our reads. And we're probably all thinking the same thing as far as waiting for more activity from other players. So why feel the need to urge others to L-1 someone?

Putting someone at l-1 even if they flip scum and getting an early night is still not an optimal situation for town. We have a lot of quiet slots who we should want to hear more from before the deadline ends.

Also, on top of everything you just seem very combative in almost all of your responses to people.

Almost all of my responses to people are because one of us scumreads another and thats just sort of how it goes a lot of the time. Maybe other people do it differently but my personality works this way.

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Chuck hasn't been very active lately but his meta reading of me reads very town. Can't imagine scum going all the way back to a past game to find one little thing about my mafia experience to question me about.

Why would town do this and not scum?

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Can you please answer my rqs on page 1?

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Luca do you have any other scumreads?

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Lynching George is probably better than tse right now just because of his sus as heck activity. Irregular posting habits is a high key tell

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I really feel like gb is struggling to be himself this game VOTE: gb
I don't care if policy lynching is a spook, every lynch is a policy lynch it's just some policies aren't as universal

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VOTE: tse

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That's l-2

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Welcome! Catch up when you can and post your reads

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Koba my pronouns are they/them please stop calling me he.

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My top srs are tse and stirner

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Stirner has Beetlejuiced a bit (check for time gaps in the iso) and dances on the fence wearing flip flops

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Koba's slot has been consistently wolfy.

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Lamist btw

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To me gb looks like scum posturing to get a compromise mislynch to help easily abdicate responsibility and gain towncred.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ll_as_scum
I feel like a lot of his moves are trying to follow this guide

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@Bug what do you think of JV? Why do you think TSE is a better pick?

JV hasn't been that scummy imo. He's felt more like village idiot than scum or town and I guess I nulltown read him

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I haven't shaded jv at all just asking that question feels really sus

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I'm saying that scum!gb loves to sr jv the hardest and then end up lynching tse when the deadline starts to loom

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read Atlas Shrugged

spook conformed

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Luca can you give a readlist? I'm getting a wolfy vibe from you and your somrgasboard of scumtells

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The wolfy vibe is just the last few pages tbh

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Can you give a wallpost with a bit about why you read each slot like you do?

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Phone dying and currently bedridden by depression but I'll get around to it

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Found phone charger see y'all in a bit

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No spoons

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How do you feel about Volxen, Bugs?

he has good takes on gb and has effectively analysed the gamestate
nulltown i'd say

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I should be ready to give a rough read on everyone soon once i get some replies to what I've said. My tactic did work in creating reads but not in the way i had hoped.

welcome to a new site with a different "meta" (whatever that means)
cant wait to see what you have to sai

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i mean obviously we want more obvious good faith stuff from volx but i think we need to let him catch up and give us posts

p.s. i think it's easier to quote everything you reply to in a single post and then make like 5 posts in a row instead of a giatn wallpost. something about how people are better at digesting that in the brain

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its possible he has been rehashing stuff you've said tbh

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i'll go back and look

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VOTE: unvote gb

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VOTE: tsel-1

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because the forum has bad unicode support
https://emojipedia.org/ghost/

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fyi i was already on the tse wagon, was hoping to bait some kind of lolhammer that would just land flaccidly. the two posts i made at the end of the last page where just so that i could pagetop with the dramatic voting and not be on the same page as a vote count which would pretty much ruin the gambit

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Could you point me to the bugs volxen pressure, Luca?

No, you misunderstand.

I pressured Volxen (in so far as you can pressure an inactive player), and Bugs' reaction to my pressure was weird.

can you quote my weird reaction? i made a few non genuine posts 2 pages ago just to pull off the pro gamer move with the fake l-1 that totally worked

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Holy shit it's like I've read two pages of four wimpys bashing their heads together.
Gonna reply now but fucking hell

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VOTE: unvote gb

VOTE: tsel-1

Please explain how this is a "pro gamer move with the fake l-1 that totally worked."

How was it a fake L-1, and how did it totally work?

If you check the most recent votecount before those posts you'll see that I am already voting TSE. I pretend to unvote gb and vote tse when I'm already voting TSE. This creates a situation where people think he's at l-1 when he's actually not.
This is useful for two reasons:
* If someone tries to lulhammer it doesn't actually hit
* People have a strong reaction and will give more posts that area likely to be alignment indicative

It's a pro gamer move because I successfully filled the previous page after the vote count with drivel so that the vote count wasn't right there.

And it worked. Some of y'all are very town and it showed.

Pedit hi jv :3 nice pronouns you got there

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IDK I can’t really trust Bugs.
One of the things that pinged me about him is he voted me during the beginning then later voted Chaz and he said something to me that was like “Your sound pretty Genuine you might be Town”
But votes me again anyway when we lean back into my direction.

My pronouns are they them. I know this shouldn't be an issue with you because you've been gendering JV correctly all game. It's been in my little avatar box area all game and in last game I played with you. Please use the right pronouns

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I'm going to bed.
Look at how this has become a flamewar. Try to figure out who is fanning the flames and who is getting troll baited. Lynch the scum I'm gonna hammer anyone at l1 tomorrow just so that y'all shut the hell up.
VOTE: bugspray
I double dog dare ya

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VOTE: volx real l-1
I don't mind policy lynching an inactive slot like this, although I think we get better vca from lynching someone else

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Welp, time to mop floors for 8 hours.

unionize!

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I knew nobody would hammer. Everyone is plat so scared and I'm trying to sow discomfort because a towny with a little discomfort is fine but scum will be screaming in pain

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VOTE: lucaVOTE:

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VOTE: luca

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I'd love to put tse at l-1 but I want at least a few days of posting with all the players before we do that. People really love to be like oh no l1 but if you're confident in your read the worst case scenario is a bus lulhammer but in newbie I think the l1 fear is more justified

I don't understand the point of this. So you're confident about your read on TSE but don't want to L-1 him yet. And then you try and convince the rest of us why we shouldn't be afraid of L-1ing if we're confident in our reads. Like, yeah but who says any of us are confident in our reads. And we're probably all thinking the same thing as far as waiting for more activity from other players. So why feel the need to urge others to L-1 someone?

Putting someone at l-1 even if they flip scum and getting an early night is still not an optimal situation for town. We have a lot of quiet slots who we should want to hear more from before the deadline ends.

Also, on top of everything you just seem very combative in almost all of your responses to people.

Almost all of my responses to people are because one of us scumreads another and thats just sort of how it goes a lot of the time. Maybe other people do it differently but my personality works this way.

VOTE: volx real l-1
I don't mind policy lynching an inactive slot like this, although I think we get better vca from lynching someone else

Bugspray's view on putting people at L-1 seems to change with the direction the wind is blowing. And the way they're cutesy playing games that give them chuckles are not help Town at all. Their play is erratic and seemingly only benefiting themself. I'm leaning toward lynching this slot or TSE today.

My pronouns are they them

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I was anti l1 before when we had m any slots that have barely posted and were in prod. Now that everyone is participating and we've generated a lot of content im really pro l1
And I've only put one person at l1 the other one was a fake.
It forces fence sitters to dance or be impaled

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If town activity is how the wind blows then I guess you're correct about that

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When you think something in an iso is sus you should check context because if it is sus you'll get even more juice and if it isn't you'll have better reads

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i think i might have quoted the wrong post wrt the pronouns in sleepyness but that's literally the only false alarm
luca can you point out me doing this any other times?

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I’ve noticed a pattern - every time someone says something negative about Bugs they respond with complaints about their pronouns, and in this case even when they were used perfectly.

Is this some sort of defence mechanism?

i would fucking policy dayvig shoot you in a heartbeat for this bullshit

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I noticed you dodged the question - why are you voting me?

its a policy vote

Fixed broken quote tag --P

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luca is just so on the attack and when tse flips green luca will flip red

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only times i see it happening elsewhere

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luca is just so on the attack and when tse flips green luca will flip red

I’m sorting and being proactive. These are things Town players are supposed to be doing.

dae lamist

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And a Bugs lynched is Good.
If they flip Red then yay me!
If they flip Green It makes it so only you or GB can be the scum.
At least from my PoE that’s what I’ve came to believe.

honesrtly im sold VOTE: bugspray this is unironic btw

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i think me getting ml'd and flipping green now is very good because theres no way i'll get nk'd with how scummy i always am and do you trust me to make the right choice in lylo? if i can catch the lynch today and we gain good info from it then let's fucking kill me

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13 hours on deadline

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ill make it easy for yall

i hard claim scum

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the ascended selfbus

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I will hammer literally anyone with this deadline

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I HARD CLAIM SCUM

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I HARD CLAIM SCUM

y u do this

lynch me

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im doing things to disrupt town and make you indecisive as the deadline looms and is under 12 hours at this point

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its me or luka today who is it gonna be

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im really tempted to just hammer TSE rn just to get u to stop trolling bugspray

this is the play that i think i can do to give the town best chance of winningdeaddass

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VOTE: tse just to make sure hes hammered

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rule 18
Twilight - Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.

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you're rolecop?

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you roll scum pr and tinfoil mason claim page 1

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assuming jk claim is legit we have town friendly nabor as well as the other town pr

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https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... y_Neighbor

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gonna lamist myself again bcs this looks like an epic bus ngl

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koba explain that shit
the scum will nk volxen 100% so volxen wants to target the most likely person to be goon

luca has been on tse from the beginning and nobody fucking busses a scum pr like that in newbie q

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mod is asleep, take advantage of twilight by posting content that will poision scum brain with sour wine and also help the tprs make good choices

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also tse might just be lying to spite us for the meme but i kinda doubt that

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this game is easily solvable by vca and tbh we are in an engame enough stage that i'm gonna reduce this game to set theory

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im spartacus

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668 this is the most recent post where luca votes tse i really doubt this is abus

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you will have all of night to make the right choice

48 hours to try and be a smart detective and think of who to jailkeep

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tomorrow we have 7 players alive 6 town and 1 scum
assuming FN targets a towny and and the jk target is conftown that means we are in a situation where one player has 3 conftown

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this is obvious stating but we are in a good position =]

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friendly neighbor

with jk and rolecop known prs accodring to the table we have a town fn

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I am the

Town Tracker

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Volxen visited Alora last night.

VOTE: Volxen

give crumbs please

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Luca response to the jk claim is consistent with a tpr that knows it's a lie and can investigate it. If the other tpr claims we can know who is lying but this is dubious at best
And I'm vla for ~3 days I'll check in when I can

V/LA noted. In the future, it is uesful to bold this kind of thing so I don't miss it --P

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Gb I read your pt and I'm flattered

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Wow scum pt I get called he at least once I rate it low tier

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Gb let's Hydra sometime. We can call it egospray I'll make the can shoot tiny stirners

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When is my gtkas