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KAWAII LITERALLY JUST VOTE PYTHON
the more you think the more you're going to believe them, and then you vote me and throw the gamelolhammer count: 3-
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like this has been dragged on long enough, python's just been regurgitating the same points about how vox "pocketed" me to seperate us and how my vote on bella was bad or whatever
it's far more likely that python and vox planned it outlolhammer count: 3-
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like are you kidding me all of vox's posts were openwolfing and i actually believed him for a moment there
of cours eim gonan fuckin hammer himlolhammer count: 3-
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anyways good night fellas, kawaii i do hope you place your vote on python
i dunno about you but i absolutely want to win and python's just taking a step in their partner's footsteps here like this is just openwolfinglolhammer count: 3-
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IN HINDSIGHT i see it as openwolfing BUT AT THE TIME he was manipulating meIn post 1035, usesPython wrote:In post 1032, patchwork wrote: like are you kidding me all of vox's posts were openwolfing and i actually believed him for a moment there
of cours eim gonan fuckin hammer him
HUH??? If Vox is openwolfing why tf would you believe him???lolhammer count: 3-
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formerIn post 1034, usesPython wrote: Hey Kawaii, what's more likely? scum!Python throws a perfectly good Bella/Python/patch endgame by telling AV to try to pocket patch (And keep in mind Iknowyou're FN and that Bella was FN'd, so AV always gets limmed there) or AV pulls the d3 theater so that patch can survive a patch/Python/Kawaii endgamelolhammer count: 3-
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you can't calculate probabilities in mafia games, that's just pointlesslolhammer count: 3-
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fucking exactlyIn post 1040, KawaiiKame wrote:
Why would patch hammer Vox as scum? That's what I fail to getIn post 1019, usesPython wrote:In post 1015, patchwork wrote: i literally hammered vox what
Yeah, before Bella could come back and call out the theater for what it is
Hammering Vox does not implicate patch as scum even if they knew Bella was on V/LA
Like you don't know Bella will call it theatre, how do you know how Bella will react?
and also ii didn't even know bella was on v/la nor did i consider that she was visited by kawaii (kawaii never dropped night actions)
as scum hammering vox would be playing against my own wincon (and if i were scum, why would vox pocket me?????)lolhammer count: 3-
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wait kawaii did you visit bella n2? you never sai dif you did or notlolhammer count: 3-
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he got limmed despite bella not confirming fn visit thoughIn post 1042, usesPython wrote: Bella will always confirm the FN visit at which point AV always gets limmed there because it's mechanically impossible for him to be Jailkeeper with three people claiming an FN exists, what don't you understand about that?lolhammer count: 3-
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does catboi not exist??? why would kawaii fn bella twice in a rowIn post 1044, usesPython wrote: Kawaii doesn't have to drop night actions. You weren't FN'd so you know Bella was FN'dlolhammer count: 3-
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like what ur saying here is that my hammer on vox was bad because bella needed to confirm fn visit... but why the fuck would kawaii visit bella both n2 and n3lolhammer count: 3-
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is that not the only reason why you're trying to lim me? kind of strange that there's such a gaping hole.lolhammer count: 3-
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how do you know thatIn post 1050, usesPython wrote:
Bella doesn't get visited n3, Kawaii either stays home or visits youIn post 1048, patchwork wrote: like what ur saying here is that my hammer on vox was bad because bella needed to confirm fn visit... but why the fuck would kawaii visit bella both n2 and n3lolhammer count: 3-
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i dont fucking knowIn post 1049, usesPython wrote:In post 1046, patchwork wrote:
does catboi not exist??? why would kawaii fn bella twice in a rowIn post 1044, usesPython wrote: Kawaii doesn't have to drop night actions. You weren't FN'd so you know Bella was FN'd
Kawaii knows AV is scum meaning they know Kowah is town because AV rolecopped them according to the Tracker, why would you FN the conftown that's gonna get nightkilled anywaysIn post 1047, patchwork wrote: kowah* sorry pal
but idk all this ambiguity abotu night actions that i clearly don't know could've been cleared up pretty easily if kawaii just. told them to us??? like how the fuck was i supposed to know bella got visited n2lolhammer count: 3-
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like on d3 i didnt know and i didnt know until just now ?????? like this hinges on the assumption that a) you somehow know kawaii's night actions and b) i also know kawaii's night actions
the thing is.. i dunno how YOU know them but i certainly did notlolhammer count: 3-
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anyways i'm going to bed because i need to stop fucking up my sleep schedule byyyeeelolhammer count: 3-
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okay python sorry i'm dumb then idk how to respond ot thislolhammer count: 3-
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Python this is so scummy lmao
Now that kawaii’s actions have been revealed you’re just pivoting to another narrative that you can push me with? I literally wasn’t even informed and why would scum!me push a confirmed pr
Literally all of your reactions are so fake…
also kawaii r you actually using vibereads on d4lolhammer count: 3-
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Like I don’t probe into night actions unless it’s necessary, in this case it was just vox v kawaii and night actions can’t solve that lollolhammer count: 3-
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I dunno why I’m taking you at your word eitherIn post 1080, usesPython wrote:
Wait why the hell am I taking patch at their word here. AV was pulling WIFOM to make patch look townie not buddying town, how the hell would anyone predict Kawaii staying home n2In post 1062, usesPython wrote: Now I'm wondering if I missed something that would indicate you stay home n2, cause what the hell why does patch's stance of AV buddying patch only make sense if you didn't visitlolhammer count: 3-
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literally kawaii please
theyre like "you're pr hunting" but what reason do i have to trust a fn claim when there are two outed prs (vox and pod) and it could easily be a play from scum to get an easy hang on vox
i doubted that there was actually a fn so that's why i asked for a claimlolhammer count: 3-
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also funny how they ignore my post about meta, huh? out of all the things they don't respond to, it's that. it's because they don't want to bring up the fact that my play in this game is nothing like my playstyle as scum.lolhammer count: 3-
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like the thing is, i can't respond to this narrative. it would be possible if i were scum, but i'm not. it looks logical, but i'm not scum. it literally just doesn't work. the fact that they pivot from "patch hammered early because they were informed about kawaii's visit so they could prevent bella from posting and calling av out on the 'pocketing'" to "patch hammered early because they were informed about kawaii's night actions so they could prevent bella from posting a readlist" or whatever
like ????? one i don't give a shit about night actions unless it can obviously help solve the game (in this case it was 1 outed pr versus a scum pretending to be a pr). i didnt need to focus on night actions because they literally dont matter to me. in this case hammering vox hammered scum so it doesn't matter, two, as scum i wouldn't hammer vox. it plays against wincon. bella LITERALLY townread vox. i literally could have just voted kawaii at some point and helped vox convince bella to vote kawaii. as python said, "why would i go for a much harder route?" (paraphrased, i forget the exact wording). i may be dumb to the point where i can't read into night actions, but i'm not stupid enough to not know that hammering my partner is bad. third, bella was on v/la. i did not know bella was on v/la. it's my bad for not waiting, but i realized that vox was actively manipulating me (look at those posts!) and hammered him before he could sway my perspective more. smh vox.
i think that's all i have to say about these scenarios. they're dumb and stupid and python is scum.lolhammer count: 3-
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like okay nice play python but i know it's you
it's literally youlolhammer count: 3-
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and in fact kawaii you shouldn't just be taking information that python spoonfeeds to you
look at the entire game and their play
in fact part of vox's meta is BUSSING PARTNERS and his early vote on python and then a switch to you obviously looks like they're paired, that's literally what he doeslolhammer count: 3-
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i swear it on my honor as a mafia player that im town
and it might not mean much ig but i really don't know what to resort to to convince you
honestly i'm afraid you're just gonna vote me and throwlolhammer count: 3-
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i hammered vox because we were goign in circles and if i didn't he'd just manipulate me into thinking i was town. i didnt want to wait and i also kind of forgot bella existed. sorry bellalolhammer count: 3-
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typo how do i drop words so easily *going in circles a lot, *he was townlolhammer count: 3-
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how would he manipulate me into thinking im scum was just a typo, when i type fast i tend to drop words and substituteIn post 1095, KawaiiKame wrote:
You not town?In post 1093, patchwork wrote: he'd just manipulate me into thinking i was town
pedit: Yeah that's why I thought you hammered Vox, potential scumslip?lolhammer count: 3-
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Idfk she just wasn't in the threadIn post 1096, KawaiiKame wrote:
How did you forget bella existed? She was mentioned multiple times iircIn post 1093, patchwork wrote: i hammered vox because we were goign in circles and if i didn't he'd just manipulate me into thinking i was town. i didnt want to wait and i also kind of forgot bella existed. sorry bellalolhammer count: 3-
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Yeah obviously there’s not much to push you with, you’ve been perfectly towny the entire damn gameIn post 1101, usesPython wrote:
EBWOPIn post 1100, usesPython wrote: AllKawaii'spatch'sbeen doing is going on the defense because they know they don't really have much to push me on and then shading me when I inevitably get part of the solve wrong because I have to convert a mechanical solve into a reads solvelolhammer count: 3-
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Not really I was just lazy and didn’t care lmaoIn post 1102, usesPython wrote:In post 1075, patchwork wrote: Like I don’t probe into night actions unless it’s necessary, in this case it was just vox v kawaii and night actions can’t solve that lol
Probing into night actionswasnecessary in a town!Patch game because it explains the entire game. To town!patch if Bella denied the FN visit it wasn't Vox vs Kawaii but Vox/Bella vs Kawaii/Python, night action analysis is necessary to sort that. The reason it's just vox vs kawaii to you is because youdon'thave to sort that. You already know AV is scum and Kawaii is town, that's why you never bothered looking into the further implications of AV's d3 playlolhammer count: 3-
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okay scumIn post 1103, usesPython wrote:In post 1088, patchwork wrote: in this case hammering vox hammered scum so it doesn't matter, two, as scum i wouldn't hammer vox. it plays against wincon. bella LITERALLY townread vox.
It's not playing against your wincon because the reasonable expectation is that Kawaii FN'd Bella and she'd confirm it (because you know Bella is town), there is no universe where AV doesn't get limmed d3 in that case. Stop playing dumb, stop making excuses, and I swear to god if you try to pull the "I'm bad at mech" or "I didn't do night action analysis" card for why you didn't know Bella should be getting FN'd n2 after 951 did your job for you then I'm just donelolhammer count: 3-
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NoIn post 1107, usesPython wrote:
Yeah cause you already knew the answerIn post 1105, patchwork wrote: Not really I was just lazy and didn’t care lmaololhammer count: 3-
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The solve is youIn post 1108, usesPython wrote: As fun as sniping at each other is, it's not helping Kawaii to solve.
Kawaii what specific problems do you have with a patch/AV solve and what specific points do you need addressed to rule out a Python/AV solve?lolhammer count: 3-
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lol lorne wasn't talking to me at all in ptIn post 1116, usesPython wrote: Oh my god I really regret not reading that game earlier lmao
(They were both scum)In post 644, patchwork wrote:
????????In post 638, Lorne Malvo wrote:
YesIn post 632, patchwork wrote: also lorne are you pocketing me????lolhammer count: 3-
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because that game there were hoods and also scum daytalkIn post 1119, KawaiiKame wrote:
Why you mentioning pt at all if town is not in it?In post 1118, patchwork wrote:
lol lorne wasn't talking to me at all in ptIn post 1116, usesPython wrote: Oh my god I really regret not reading that game earlier lmao
(They were both scum)In post 644, patchwork wrote:
????????In post 638, Lorne Malvo wrote:
YesIn post 632, patchwork wrote: also lorne are you pocketing me????lolhammer count: 3-
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my "lorne are you pocketing me" was sort of a silent "please talk to me in pt" think, whereas this game vox was like. actually pocketing me. lorne was not pocketing at all lollolhammer count: 3-
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but you knew it was my scumgame....?In post 1117, usesPython wrote: Ok got the posts
In post 826, patchwork wrote: wait wait guys no don't hammerIn post 827, patchwork wrote: sky is my hood partner and she's 100% town don't hammerIn post 828, patchwork wrote: i refrained from saying this before but i'm confident that this is a mishang and you shouldn'tIn post 829, patchwork wrote: also that wagon built up far too quickly and really unnatural i think there's at least one scum on there, maybe furtive, and aureal put sky at e-1 without announcing it ????
and yes you should trust my judgement here, i know my play hasn't been the best this game but sky is very towny to me and all of the hood interactions i've had with her read as towny so please don't hammer
like this is really the only read i'm 100% confident on, do not hammer
Like when I read these posts as they were happening I was like "yeah patch town" (I was wrong )In post 833, patchwork wrote:
because when it was just furtive and lorne i didn't think it would be that much of an issue because lorne was inactive and furtive was doing absolutely nothing, so i wouldn't need to out as being in a hood with her, but then when i left all of a sudden she's at e-1In post 832, KittyTacky wrote: I'm neutral on Sky.
I don't like the speed of the wagon either.
But the timing is weird. Patch, why did you refrain and wait until the wagon got ran up to E-1?lolhammer count: 3-
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so about meta. does this game look anything like that? not reallyulolhammer count: 3-
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sadly im afraid to tell you that if i were scum id probably care more about this gamelolhammer count: 3-
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not really, i do care now but i didn't really beforeIn post 1131, usesPython wrote:
You seemed about as invested in this game as I am this dayphase, and I'd say I'm pretty invested?In post 1130, patchwork wrote: sadly im afraid to tell you that if i were scum id probably care more about this gamelolhammer count: 3-
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just this day phaseIn post 1132, KawaiiKame wrote:
You don't care about this game? All you've done is demonstrate your care in this dp, same with python, though I admit that python has played a stellar game, giving it a lot of attention/careIn post 1130, patchwork wrote: sadly im afraid to tell you that if i were scum id probably care more about this gamelolhammer count: 3-
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python you are beautifully manipulative and now all of these night kills make sense. you and vox were taking me to endgame for a reason, weren't you two?lolhammer count: 3-
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fuck, i can't even push you. kawaii's just going to believe you because everything you've done this game has been carefully laid-out. we lose.lolhammer count: 3-
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python you are literally scumIn post 1145, usesPython wrote:
Like the reason you're having such a hard time pushing me isn't because I'm some mastermind who calculated everyones every move since d1, it's actually much simpler than that.In post 1143, patchwork wrote: fuck, i can't even push you. kawaii's just going to believe you because everything you've done this game has been carefully laid-out. we lose.
We both know the full setup is:- Kawaii - FN
- Python - VT
- patch - Goon
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ive literally said the exact same thhings over and over but they've just kept getting ignored
just fuckign hammer me already im too tired of thislolhammer count: 3-
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HAHAHA i was so rightIn post 918, patchwork wrote: also like??? who the heck is friendly neighbor lol if someone were to just out here it'd be so much easier to hunt
i literally don't have reads anymore im just bruteforcing with logic at this pointIn post 900, usesPython wrote: patch and Kawaii, can you two elaborate on your d2 reads? patch just had a naked vote with 0 explanation before AV even did the mech wall and all Kawaii had to say is that "JK > Tracker in value"
me, bella, you, kk, and vox are alive
...oh fuck if i live to day 4 this is gonna be really hard
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yeah i think that's about everything before d4 that pinged me
though there was quite a lot of distancing if im viewing it right, the d2 vote on vox and then unvote literally two posts after (in their iso), and just not revoting... taking their sweet time to vote vox on d3 etc
and then there was the earlygame sussing of catboi (who so happened to be attacking vox)
note that vox busses as scum this is what he does and it's literally his meta lol. he has done just that with python toololhammer count: 3-
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i dont know how to convince you i know ive done a lot of scummy things this game and ive made a lot of misplays but i know for a fact that python is scum
if you're town then it's just python reallylolhammer count: 3-
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patchwork they/themMafia Scumthey/them
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YES???? python has been towny the entire game and i townread them up until late d3 or night 3In post 1156, KawaiiKame wrote: Does nothing exist to scumcase python outside of python/AV setting you up to the endgame?lolhammer count: 3-
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