Newbie 955 - Game over

[Me=Weird]

Hi, hopefully I'll be caught up by tonight.

[Me=Weird]

Hi, hopefully I'll be caught up by tonight.

Thanks for replacing.

I love replacing.

Read the thread, but I'm going to do some ISO's, and you'll probably be seeing a case when I'm done.

[Me=Weird]

Mod: Limited access today, very limited access tomorrow.

[Me=Weird]

Sorry I had to go v/la right after replacing in. I'm about to finish some ISO's.

[Me=Weird]

Noooo!!!!!!!!!! I was almost finished with a case on kingcod, and then I hit preview and lost it!!

[Me=Weird]

To hoopla: A less than 3 lines case on kingcod: Votes the most popular suspect when the wagon's hot, then when it loses momentum, unvotes when the wagon loses momentum, with an excuse of "I agree, we shouldn't get him when there are better lynch targets", or something along those lines. Satisfied?

[Me=Weird]

Forgot to vote. Hope everyone is okay with my putting him at L-1.

Vote: kingcod

[Me=Weird]

MrSandman? We haven't seen you in about a week. Thoughts?

Rayfrost: it's been 4 days. What are the results of your reread?

QFT. More thoughts later.

[Me=Weird]

Anyone want some good logic? Here it is. The world

isn't

going to end in 2012, because there's no reason for it to except the mayan calendar, and it would just start a new cycle, not end the world. You say the mayans accurately predicted the world would end now? LOL hahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's so funny. How could anyone have known the world was going to end, even advanced ancient civilizations?
Oh, you wanted game relevant logic? Sorry. There might be a case on exemption later, though.

[Me=Weird]

Hmmm. Exemption says hoopla is null, and

in the same post

votes her. How contradictory. Also, implies he prefers short posts to long ones, but makes long posts. How hypocritical. However a exemption lynch isn't going to happen today and I prefer a kingcod one, and that isn't enough for us to lynch him. But I will

Fos: Exemption

him.

Hi Equi, it's us three again! You, Me, and Ray. For those who don't know what we're talking about. Extra points to anyone who can find the link!

[Me=Weird]

If exemption's still at L-1 tomorrow near deadline, I'll vote, but he's not my preferred lynch.

[Me=Weird]

Soooo... You think Exemption is the cop(assuming there is one), Equi, but you're voting him anyway? Where does logic fit into this?

[Me=Weird]

You're ignoring my post?

[Me=Weird]

Not im my opinion; I'd lynch kingcod or hoopla. Hoopla because I agree with the cases on her.

[Me=Weird]

I guess... That's only three out of the necessary 5, though.

[Me=Weird]

Deadline is in two hours. On to suspect #3.

Unvote, Vote: Hoopla

I'll most likely be here for the next couple of hours, so if anyone wants to get the RayFrost wagon moving, I'm game (sorta). One null and potentially difficult read out of the way.

Weird. Pretty much the same here.

In everything.

I will be on and off until deadline. So I guess I'll

Unvote, Vote Hoopla

[Me=Weird]

I think someone should hammer ASAP, as there is now realistic way the lynch can shift

again.

[Me=Weird]

EBWOP: Nice avatar, Equinox.

[Me=Weird]

Does it matter? And that in what way responds to my game-relevant post?

[Me=Weird]

Not saying that isn't possible, it's actually very possible, exemption, but that's a convenient excuse for not faking a result. Welcome, cirno. Yes, it is a scumtell, but not always a very strong one. It is one nonetheless though, but not as strong as some from other players. I still think king is scum, and exemption might be. Lobster did just ping a bit scumminess.

[Me=Weird]

Too tired to post today, or at least right now.

[Me=Weird]

Complaining about losing the doc can be a small scum-tell, as the scum would want to appear regretful. But, in newbie games at least, I don't pay much regard to it. Now, there are a few possibilities about exemption right now.
1. He actually is the(assuming there is one) cop, and did get roleblocked.
2. He's a VT and for some reason claimed cop to avoid getting lynched, and is a liar. Some people have a lynch-all-liars policy.
3. He's scum in a goon-goon team, took a risk and claimed cop hoping(correctly) that there is a doc.
4. He's scum in a roleblocker team, and took a risk of getting counter claimed(for this reason, I believe he would be the goon if it's this situation) to draw out the cop(once again, assuming there is one).

I believe it's one of the latter two. Incidentally, if it's a goon-goon situation, he knows he is safe from counter-claims and can continue to say he's roleblocked, because if there's a cop and doc, there is a roleblocker.

It is possible cirno was making excuses for not being logical when he said he would be playing with gut only this game.

[Me=Weird]

All these long posts are depressing me.
Won't be able to post today, but monday should reveal content.

[Me=Weird]

Cirno was pinging my scumdar a bit, so I investigated(not cop, did an ISO) him.
In his first post, he says he will be playing by gut this game. Which could be an excuse for future crap-logic. I believe I mentioned this before, but it deserves a spot in a case on him.
Right, there are three scum. If you're going to list more than to suspects, state the priority.
You've delivered nothing. Not good. Continues not to deliver anything. Not gooder.
Shows some quotes that don't make sense.
Promises a case. Makes some non-sensical comment on how "he would be padding his case to spite us", which I took to mean he would make it a long post.
Delivers a case.
Incidentally, he said he would have a case up "in a day or two" about week before he actually makes his case. I find slightly scummy, but not my best lead.

[Me=Weird]

If you're going to list more than to suspects, state the priority.

Let's use a tiny bit of brain power, yes? I believe in my first post I stated 'Kingcod is scum. He just is.'. I also stated that I would try to get him lynched. I also stated that I would build a case on him in particular. I believe that from these we can assume that my top suspect was Kingcod, followed by Exemption. Adaham came under suspicion later, and I ignored Exemption, so there may be some confusion there. At the time, Adaham and Exemption were equally scummy. As of right now, I doubt either of them are scum.

"'Kingcod is scum. He just is.'" Oh yes, thats a great way to to convince people to vote for him. So you think Exemption really is cop? Or that he's a stupid VT?

Shows some quotes that don't make sense.

I was trying to demonstrate the Kingcod was speaking nonsense. The first quote is Kingcod claiming that though Adaham and I went back and forth, we never claimed to suspect one another. The following two quotes prove otherwise.

The quotes don't mention you or Adaham directly, I would have to go back and find that post, which would be time consuming. Anyone could have not understood.

What do you think about Kingcod?

I think he was scummy day 1, but has gotten better.

What do you think about the players on the Hoopla wagon?

Exemption almost seemed as if he was just voting because it was a bandwagon, Dingcod had bad reasons too, ironically it was me, redtail, and Equi, who voted her because of the deadline who had the best reasons(IMO).

Who are your top three suspects and why?

Exemption. I think he claimed cop on a risky gambit, got lucky when he and his partner(assuming I'm not wrong) killed the doc, and knew it was safe to say he'd been roleblocked, because if there's a doc and cop there's a roleblocker. You, for reasons I stated in another post. And I have kind of a gut feeling on adaham, but evidence says kingcod.

And off topic, but why are you calling me "Weird-kun"? Weird is just fine. And yes, I posted two times yesterday, but one of them was reporting a problem(when you go to someone's profile, it says their join date it Dec. 31 1969), and one was a irresistible thing in General Mish-mash. Neither of which were in a different game I'm in. Therefore I am avoiding this game exactly as much as I'm avoiding every other game I'm in. Which means I'm not avoiding this game at all.

[Me=Weird]

"'Kingcod is scum. He just is.'" Oh yes, thats a great way to to convince people to vote for him.

Which is why I promised a case, which has now been delivered. I'd like to point out that this quote has nothing to do with what you asked me.

My point was that you said "blahblah is scum he just is" without a case in your first post, regardless of whether you did the case later. When I replace in, I post saying I'm reading, then usually do a case on the scummiest(IMO) player in my second post. But I suppose that's just a difference in our playstyles.

Do you think Exemption really is cop? Or that he's a stupid VT?

I doubt vanilla townie will claim cop for no reason (not that it hasn't happened before) and then claim to have been roleblocked the next day. I don't think he is scum, so I must assume he is actually the cop.

Why don't you think he's scum?

The quotes don't mention you or Adaham directly, I would have to go back and find that post, which would be time consuming. Anyone could have not understood.

Unless they had actually been paying attention to the thread and therefore knew who Kingcod was referring to, rather than trying to attack another player without any research. Further evidence that were more concerned with attacking me than keeping your facts straight is the fact that the post that you would have had to 'go back and find' is exactly two posts previous to mine. Also note that YOU were the only person to post between the two posts in question. Why aren't you reading Kingcod's posts, Mr.Weird?

Oh I am. I just like to be as precise as possible with quotes. So I suppose I expect it of other people. Another difference in our playstyles.

What do you think about Kingcod?

I think he was scummy day 1, but has gotten better.

What bothered you about him on day one and what has he done on day two to change your opinion?

Why aren't you reading

my

posts, Mr. Cirno? He didn't do any of the things I accused him of yesterday.

And yes, I posted two times yesterday, but one of them was reporting a problem(when you go to someone's profile, it says their join date it Dec. 31 1969), and one was a irresistible thing in General Mish-mash. Neither of which were in a different game I'm in. Therefore I am avoiding this game exactly as much as I'm avoiding every other game I'm in. Which means I'm not avoiding this game at all.

Looking through your posts, it appears that you did in fact avoid all of your games, so I'll drop that point. But I'll ask that you participate in this thread a bit more, as you have contributed very little so far and that is scummy in itself.

Certainly. I usually make one post a day, except when deadline is near, but if you wish I can make an exception(most days) for this game. As you can see, I already am, simlpy by posting this.

[Me=Weird]

Exemption: I will try to have a case up tomorrow. But do you seriously have no better leads? kingcod: Why do you address me? I haven't said anything about your post. Cirno,
VOTE: Cirno, but it should be noted that I will most likely change it to Exemption later. And it isn't so much what king has been doing, so much as what he hasn't been doing. He hasn't been doing what I was accusing him of yesterday, or at least not as much. And all in all, I feel his play has been a lot better.

[Me=Weird]

Me=Weird's last response was weird (it went from "Kingcod didn't do any of the things I accused him of yesterday" to "Kingcod hasn't been doing what I was accusing him of yesterday, or at least not as much. ")

The "Kingcod didn't do any of the things I accused him of yesterday" meant today he isn't doing what I was accusing him of yesterday. I think I worded that badly. And the "or at least not as much. " was meant to go in a different post in a different game. Oops. Hope that cleared everything up. And besides, I'm weird.

[Me=Weird]

EBWOP: More later, right now I'm using the bad computer.

[Me=Weird]

Sorry about lack of exemption case, yesterday was kinda crazy, and I'm not feeling up to it today, or at least not right now. Lobster, although I agree that cirno has helped widen the scum search, redtail did have the best reasons for voting hoopla, me and Equi were mostly deadline voters.

[Me=Weird]

Not enough evidence to actually post a case on Exemption(plus I've spent the past 2 hours reading a game), so I think I'll have to go along with a different lynch, at least today. I will only want a lynch on king as a deadline lynch though, I think he's town. If I had to pick a lynch right now, that wasn't exemption, I'd have to say cirno(though I don't have a big scum-read on him), and I wouldn't be particularly against a adaham lynch. Note to self: reading a 25 page game is kinda demoralizing.

[Me=Weird]

I don't, cirno. I would rather a exemption or adaham(see below) lynch. Exemption because I think it's a goon goon situation and he took a risk day 1, and got lucky night 1, so of course it's safe to say he's been roleblocked, and as equi said, even if he really is the cop, if he continues getting roleblocked, he's useless as a PR and a bad scum-hunter.
I think adaham is scummy mainly because he initially posted good content, but lately he's barely been posting any, and not regularly. In fact,

Mod: Please prod adaham. Also, can you please include deadline in all vote counts?

And yes, I know that isn't lynchworthy usually, but there isn't enough stuff from other people that is scummy.

Redtail: I don't know, I guess it's more of a gut feeling.

[Me=Weird]

i dont think either are scum right now. i never said i thought they were. i just said that cirno helped lead discussion and scum searches on them.

Either of who? Sorry if I missed something. Who are your main suspects right now? You're seeming a bit close-mouthed. Also, for your signature, in "weird" the "e" is before the "i".

[Me=Weird]

Evidence has higher priority than gut.
At one point today, when accused of suggesting a no-lynch, he said it might have saved hoopla. Who cares if it would have saved anyone!! We needed a lynch day 1. Period.
Wait what?

Redtail is town

How would anyone know that except the mafia? Saying someone is town(unless a cop with an innocent) is a fairly substantial scum-tell(when it's not on it's own).
How would the interplay between me and exemption suggest which power roles we have?
Oh yes, you "know you're town", that's terribly convincing.
Yes, cirno has been attacking you so you need to respond, but that doesn't mean all but ignoring other people.
I'd be willing to hammer after lobster responds to me, but if king flips town, my gut(not me) gets to say "I told you so!!" No, I'm not trying to stay on both sides, I'm just saying that although there is a good case on king, my gut says town.

Oh, and I'll be visiting relatives on the 4th too.

MOD: Can the deadline(whether day or night) be extended because of the holiday?

[Me=Weird]

@kingcod:
Maybe, but wouldn't it have been better to say "I think redtail is town" or "I'm pretty sure redtail it town" because, you know, there's always a small possibility.

MOD: CAN YOU ALSO PROD REDTAIL? THANKS

[Me=Weird]

Not enough evidence to actually post a case on Exemption

I understand your suspicions of Exemption and I can actually sympathize. But undefinable suspicions are not fantastic aids.

Hence why it's a suspicion, not a case. As in, I find a few things scummy about him, but not quite enough to vote him.

Re: the general assumption that I'm town. Would somebody please explain to me the difference between me and Cirno? And the differences between me and Adaham. Really.

Between you and cirno: You didn't replace in and promise a case on the easiest target and not post it for almost a week.
Between you and adaham: Mostly your play has been very consistently town, rather than town, and now slacking off.

[Me=Weird]

Red, you're not getting replaced, are you? You're continuing to provide content, whereas adaham simply stopped posting, but before he left, each had less content than the last.
Cirno, is it my fault if I say I'd be willing to hammer after someone says their going to be V/LA until nearly the deadline? For that matter, what's wrong with it? As I said before, it was a gut read on king that made me think he's town. I finally decided to just face up to the fact he's really scummy.

[Me=Weird]

whereas adaham simply stopped posting, but before he left, each had less content than the last.

I want to point out that it is a bit ironic for you to be complaining about other players posting little content.

My point was, adaham initially posted good content, and as the game went on, he consistently posted less and less content.

Cirno, is it my fault if I say I'd be willing to hammer after someone says their going to be V/LA until nearly the deadline?

The problem isn't simply that you said you would hammer after another player said they are going v/la, the problem is that you are waiting on a player who you know won't be around. Would you not find it strange if one player says "I'll be gone until the day before the deadline", and then another player comes along two posts later and says "I'll be willing to hammer just as soon as that guy who is unlikely to post again until the deadline replies to me"?

Okay, lobster said she might be able to post that day or the day after. If not, I'd be okay with hammering without answers.

For that matter, what's wrong with it? As I said before, it was a gut read on king that made me think he's town. I finally decided to just face up to the fact he's really scummy.

What is wrong with it is you have called Kingcod town all day, despite the cases against him, and now that it looks like no one else is going to be lynched, you are willing to vote him. This is made worse when one considers that all of your suspicions against other players have been equally worthless. You suspect me because I was late delivering a case and because I said I would play by gut. Keep in mind that not only are you a player who has promised a case and failed to deliver it all, but that you have no explanation for your suspicions other than gut. You once mentioned Adaham and Exemption as better lynches than me, but haven't explained your suspicions of the former and have failed to bring any points against the latter. I find having suspicions on various players based on nothing or very little all day, and then hopping on a bandwagon you've been against all day when deadline nears scummy.

The "For that matter, whats wrong with it?" was about the quote above this. I had a gut town read on him. I didn't realize the deadline was so soon. I do not intend to play the game by gut. Should king flip scum, I will go back and look at his interactions with people. If he flips town, I will do a complete reread. I will then provide a good case on why someone is obviously scum. I mentioned adaham because I needed a another person, you said to list three. I'm just not very suspicious of him, at least not right now. In any case, we need to let kyle chip in, preferably before we lynch.

Can I ask you why delivering the case late is scummy?

It seems kind of like you were waiting to see if people were against a lynch for him first, so you would know if you actually should post the case. But I'm not holding it against you. Yet…


Welcome, kyle.

[Me=Weird]

Wait, cirno replaced rayfrost? Me=Confused.
Kyle, please provide a detailed case on ray/cirno. And what was scummy enough to make you think lobster lynch-worthy despite your "solid town read from LobsterCatapult"?

[Me=Weird]

LobsterCatapult's response at the start of Day Two reeked of scum.

She complained about losing the doc. Which, in my opinion is a

little bit

of a scum-tell, but only really in non-newbies. So why did it "reek" of scum?
@Post# 384: You lousy hypocrite! You took someone off L-1 a couple days before deadline, with a bad "case", without any momentum on it.

King: I had(and still have) a gut town read on you. It's just that you have been undeniably scummy, and I've been slacking on this game a bit, and totally spaced out the deadline. If I understand correctly, the scummiest thing any of us have done is me dropping my gut read on you. Seriously?

Kyle, you think cirno is scum because he(she?) replaced rayfrost, simply because ray had to be replaced? Since when is that a case?

Congratulations, cirno. I now think you're town(ier). Kyle, I think you're scum. You have a horrible "case" on cirno, you replaced adaham, who I find scummy because I think he was eager initially, if I'm right, to fool us all, and later on slacked off because he thought we might be getting on to him. I would think this of anyone who posted content at first, but later does less and less before quitting altogether.

Aaand I'm not really a morning person, so see ya this evening.

[Me=Weird]

I totally forgot I'm even voting.
UNVOTE: Cirno

Congratulations on that fine WIFOM(about if kyle is scum why would he switch to cirno).
King: Why did you pick me and lobster? So far as I know, you haven't expressed suspicion of either of us. I honestly forgot I was voting cirno.
Cirno: Why is king your only candidate? Why wouldn't you be at least okay with a lynch of kyle, whom you have expressed strong suspicion on?

[Me=Weird]

Either kyle or cirno is scum. They are both pretty scummy, and it doesn't look like bussing. Thoughts later, really tired, a little sick too. Lobster, I did vote during day 2, if you mean why I didn't vote the whole day, um, I'll have to look back.

[Me=Weird]

Doing what I really should have done monday.

Mod: V/LA until saturday of sunday.

Been sick and working to hard.

[Me=Weird]

Right now, I feel certain cirno is town, kyle is scum, and I can't decide whether it's thor or lobster who's the other scum. Probably lobster. Here's a bit of a case on kyle.
Says he "didn't like lobster at the start of day 2" without elaborating at all.
Apparently the scummiest thing in the game was rayfrost active lurking.
Thor, do feel complaining about losing the doc is a scum-tell? The rest of us have made our thoughts on that clear.
kyle said "If we lynch kingcod today and he flips town, can we lynch cirno tomorrow?". This gives me the following questions to kyle:
You seemed as if you knew he would flip town. Why?
What would you have done if kingcod had been scum?
Votes right off the bat in LyLo, and seems to know it with "Cirno is scum and LobsterCatapult is his partner." apparently he isn't worried about quick-hammers.
5 people is LyLo with 2 scum.
Oh, you thought there was one scum left. Not what it looked like a couple posts ago. Yes, I know this has been called out already, but I have to include in any case on him.
Does anyone else feel cirno was tunnelling on king with "Crap reasons"? I feel they were okay reasons.
How is "Correct." a response to "Show me where I label you as obvious scum as opposed to utterly incompetent."?
GAh! Yes, he unvoted immediately, but what part of "It's LyLo, don't vote" don't you understand, kyle?
Is the extent of you lobster suspicion that she isn't as scum-hunting as the rest of us(Me not included in the "us", I don't think)?
So you saw the other post at you, and didn't notice any that were like, on the page?
Why do you rush to disagree with thor? And possible town motives are setting up an accidental bandwagon for a unknowing townie to hop, and partner to hammer for the win.
This is a strange post. I've tried and failed to comprehend it.
The lie is that you first seemed to (correctly) think there were 2 scum left, and then changed to thinking there's 1 scum left. It's scummy for potentially causing misinformation.

Thus ends my case. Oh, and lobster, I'm not a bored townie or lurking scum. I'm a recovering from sickness townie.

[Me=Weird]

Why are lobster's reasons for thinking cirno is town "absolutely crap"? Please don't just say things without the slightest bit of reasoning. Are my cases bad because one of them is on you? Same response as above. And what do you mean by "intense lurking"? I treat this game the same as I do with all my games. And I believe thor asked why you think lobster is more likely scum than me.
Thor, what do you mean by me "going from 'scum is either kyle or Cirno' to his new stance of 'Cirno is town, kyle is scum with Thor/Lobster'"? I said either kyle or cirno is scum, when I posted, I made clear I believe cirno is town, kyle is scum. So? I said "either" as in, I don't think they're the same alignment. I don't get this. And I'm not just posting because you want me to, I actually had to revise my post I was about to put up to respond to you.

Mod: V/LA tomorrow.

[Me=Weird]

(No vote) Thor665, Me=Weird, LobsterCatapult, Cirno, kyle99
5 alive; 3 votes lynch. Day ends 3 August UTC.

Well, reading more than just the first three posts of the day allowed me to see kyle's contradiction, which made me look into kyle in ISO, then my case on kyle.

[Me=Weird]

So I got on a little bit.

What made Cirno town? Was it just because you're convinced kyle is scum?

Mostly. I highly doubt they're the same alignment.

Kyle, can you read? Because, no no no that is not my case.

-Didn't elaborate on a point.

Yes, but in this case it was a bit scummy because you left us with basically no idea what you were talking about. Which caused confusion, which is bad.

-Thinks active lurking is scummy (it is)

When you came in the game, was rayfrost active lurking

the scummiest thing in the game?

-Said "if kindcod flips town, can we lynch cirno?"

That wasn't part of my case. It was just explaining why I asked questions*.

-Votes right of the bat in LyLo.

No no no. You clearly said you thought cirno was scum, with lobster as her partner, voted, and then used the excuse "I didn't know it was LyLo because I thought we only had one scum left".

*Questions. I asked you these questions, and you made several posts after them without answering. Please do. In case you missed them,
You seemed as if you knew he(kingcod) would flip town. Why?
What would you have done if kingcod had been scum?

[Me=Weird]

Oh, by the way Me=Weird, if that wasn't your case on me, what is your case on me? You're doing the same thing you accused me of doing right now.

I meant what you listed as my case on you wasn't my case on you. You mis-repped me. Read my post with my official case and my previous one for my case on you.

[Me=Weird]

Thor, what cirno said. Please make an actually case against me that isn't "Me=Weird's scummy because he lurked". In order for me to defend myself, I need to something to defend against.

[Me=Weird]

Well, I'm sorry if I haven't been reading your posts, but there's not much for me to say about being(falsely, IMO) accused about lurking.

[Me=Weird]

Thor: Can you please do as cirno and now me are asking and just post your entire case against me in one post? Same for you, kyle and lobster. Also, limited access for about a week. Don't be too surprised if I don't post some days.

[Me=Weird]

Oh god I somehow totally spazzed that post out. I've been paying attention to all the other posts. I will respond to that one tomorrow. I didn't even notice that post.

[Me=Weird]

Welcome impossible-to-type-name person. This game is now made up entirely of replacements. *sigh*
As I say below, drmy, that's my playstyle. You seem to want to meta other people, feel free to meta me.
But those can't appear in newbies. Cop's can. I don't get what you're hoping to achieve here.
Really? How can you be in your first 4 newbies all at once? Thor, I'm not sure if it's allowed to link ongoing games.
Thor, I figured out what happened about me not reading the post. It was the day I spent 4 hours in the 100º heat doing laborious work at a stables. I saw the wall of text, groaned, responded to what was quoted of me, and promised myself I'd read it tomorrow, and forgot.
Now, in response to the post:

Only two possible scum on Hoopla wagon - me or Me=Weird. Do you think the wagon was 100% town driven? If not, one of us has to be scum.

Okay then, you're scum. Die.[/jking] I don't know, it's worth looking into, and if you survive to day 4, and we lynch a goon today, then you could be lying etc.

No one has made any real opinions on him yet, he is posting and voting in a way to make this seem strategic in nature (aka active lurking)

I can't explain other people's actions, but that's my playstyle. As netopalis put's it, I have an extremely unusual playstyle that tends to make me look like scum. His words.

in nature (aka active lurking)
When called on lurking by me made a post immediately thereafter responding - went out of way to claim this wasn't in response to my call (aka trying to suggest he's only on randomly and isn't active lurking).

I have this habit of making my posts, and making posts for all of my games before posting any of them. It's paranoia that people will call me out on posting in other games but not this one. And you seem to get online for Mafia at around the same time as me. You have to believe some things, you know.

Had most strategic shift on kyle of anyone. Both he and kyle seemed slightly allergic to commenting on each other. (these support kyle as scumbuddy - and my belief is Me=Weird is the role blocker if kyle is his buddy)
Gut.

Can you please clarify on what you mean by this?

This is the biggest screaming connection I see between kyle and Me=Weird (I still think Weird is the better choice for the day). He almost feels like this at the thought I'm onto something with the Hoopla wagon ("obviously unlikely") and is fidgeting because he doesn't want to sell scum on Me=Weird.

Random comment: Maybe because he has two other scum-picks?

My biggest issue with kyle being scum is that if he's 'caught' scum I think he would have leaped at my issues with Me=Weird sooner unless Me=Weird is also scum (and roleblocker). So either kyle is town because he's convinced of his reads even when I'm offering an 'out' by being so suspicious of Me=Weird, or kyle is buddies with Me=Weird and Weird is the PR and kyle would rather sink himself then sell out the PR. (or I'm an idiot and all of these reads are wrong - but that's part of the joy of the game)

I'm inclined to think you an idiot and are wrong. At least about me. I don't think so about kyle.

I too would like more cirno. And just because I found a nice avatar, I'm now "snake"?

[Me=Weird]

Yes, but I think when you're in your first newbie, you're not allowed to be in others.

[Me=Weird]

never mind, just saw you got lynched in one.

[Me=Weird]

Sorry guys, I'm just going to have to

V/LA until this saturday afternoon.

Real life's evil for me right now.

[Me=Weird]

Vote: Cirno

[Me=Weird]

[Me=Weird]

TEHEHEHEHEHE
I win.

Not quite. I claim victory as well.
So, I really was V/LA, just popped in via iPhone and saw a townie at L-1. Thor, that really is how I post. It's my play-style.
More thoughts later.

[Me=Weird]

Quick-topic.