Newbie 1,276 (Game over!)

[Nekoko]

Hi everyone! This is my third game in the forums and ever since my first game here,
I became fond of the Random Questioning Stage. It is a way for people to talk more
about substantial things than voting people randomly. So here goes...

1. What made you decide to join Mafiascum?
2. Do you have any experience in playing the game? As Mafia?
3. How do you react to people attacking you?

Here is my personal answer

1. I joined last April because I was very intrigued on how people play here. I already know this site as I visit
its wiki page each time I was playing mafia in another site. As I saw the games here, I was really impressed
on the level of the intensity they are playing. So now I joined to hone my mafia skills by playing with you guys.

2. I have both experience (in real-life and online). However most of my in-game experience was on another site.
It's not at the same level as this site. From where I came from, they're very much attached to the cop or some
power role and they always like to play closed theme games. As I said a while ago, this is still my third game.
I already finished two of my games but the second one is still unfinished so I cannot comment on that game.
However feel free to check and ask anything from my first game.

3. When people attack me, I first would like to analyze the person who attacked me. I would try to
go deeper and find what's his motive or check the timing of his accusation. If it is with merit, I will
try to clear things up. If I found him to be suspicious, I will probably fight back.

I hope everyone answers my questions and asks more questions to keep the discussion
on-going.

And since I don't go for no-lynches, I will always try to vote the most suspicious player.
Since the day is still young, here is the random vote

VOTE: Paschendale

[Nekoko]

For some reason Paschendale reminds me of
classical game so that's why I voted you

[Nekoko]

I meant classical music

[Nekoko]

Although random questions can work to move the game out of RVS, they are usually done in a way that does not actually achieve anything. For random questions to move the game out of RVS, the questions have to be questions that players might answer differently based upon their alignment. Otherwise, everyone will just answer the questions, and then once that is done, you end up back where you started with no information. These questions seem to be ones that players will answer the same way independently of alignment, so this wouldn't really help to move the game along. An example of random questions that might help to move the game along are:

I'm kind of new to this thing and I just copied the questions people asked before in my first few games but thanks for the advice

I think the 3rd question helped us in the 1st game as one of the mafia members said he ignores it and
so it became one of the topics of discussion in the succeeding days when he was eventually grilled.

1. Nekoko, were you paying attention to the other votes that had been laid down when you made your random vote?
2. Nekoko, why did you feel the need to create a second post to explain your random vote?

1. Yeah and they're random (somewhat as some people's names stick to your head)
2. I don't really know. For some reason Paschendale reminds me of Pachelbel so I picked him.
Then I saw I didn't put any reason to my random vote so I said to myself what the heck
I'll also post the reason just like ewo2.

[Nekoko]

The 2nd question is also essential so that we will know who
really have no experience whatsoever in the game

[Nekoko]

Note, I still like my vote to be on MissMaggot, even though there is another player with two votes now, because I am hoping that this will generate two competing wagons that will help to determine who is scum in later days. However, I did think about changing that vote to be a vote on Wii, before deciding not to.

Isn't it a bit too early to generate two competing wagons?

[Nekoko]

Sorry I'm late checking in. It's been a very busy weekend. Not seeing merit in the Wiibox wagon. Actually, I find this very interesting.

Isn't it a bit too early to generate two competing wagons?

Why would town want to stop a wagon from forming? Competing wagons early on? That's a great source of information. Could this be a scum who wants to make sure a town lynch goes through? I think it's one of the more suspicious posts so far.

Vote: Nekoko

Could this be an OMGUS disguised post

The important word here is early. Your post is interesting too.

[Nekoko]

Hi everyone! This is my third game in the forums and ever since my first game here,
I became fond of the Random Questioning Stage. It is a way for people to talk more
about substantial things than voting people randomly. So here goes...

Okay, Nekoko likes that RVS isn't just random and wasteful. It brings out meaningful things.

And since I don't go for no-lynches, I will always try to vote the most suspicious player.
Since the day is still young, here is the random vote

VOTE: Paschendale

Right... RVS shouldn't be completely random, and yet here is a random vote. On someone who hasn't even posted yet.

Your argument doesn't make sense.

I did exactly the same thing in the last game
and you're finding me suspicious because of the way I play?

You never even bothered to answer my questions.

In post 7, Nekoko wrote:For some reason Paschendale reminds me of
classical game so that's why I voted you

For a really random reason. Saying one thing and doing another is pretty suspicious. I didn't even base my vote on this originally, but looking back, it looks like laying groundwork for getting away with shoddy logic later on.

Everyone w/ common sense would immediately detect
that it's a random reason to a random vote.

Of course my vote will be switched to suspicious
players eventually but now it seems you're one now.

[Nekoko]

Neither Nekoko nor Wii supported wagons, which are essential to early play.

No one said this was essential in my first two games here.

And to clarify

Isn't it

a bit too early

to generate two competing wagons?

[Nekoko]

Well im late. Seems 2 good places to put my vote, both ill have an explaination for...

IC bw, just for being an IC. IC makes good town, but much better scum!

So you're choice 1 is the IC because he's just an IC. This doesn't make sense at all.

RQS starter bw.
RQS-RANDOM QUESTIONING STAGE
RQS can help the maf in more ways than are obvious.
1.Questions on playstyle for one: maf might look at their answer, maybe find something off from how they are playing? People play different with different roles. Maf might sniff out a power role!
2.Answers containing accidental softclaims:
Not often, but ive seen RQS with an unintentional softclaim, then the maf killed them. Doctor died that way.

No it's not obvious. If it's obvious, I won't see in newbie games people
starting with random questioning stage. You're putting me at L-1 just
because you disagree with me in RQS

And what the hell is BW anyway

[Nekoko]

Well, this is either town, or you are scum intentionally faking your town meta. However it does reveal that Paschen's case on you is null.

Exactly and it's the same thing with venrob

IC, by simple probability, is more likely to be town

Careful there. Everyone here has the same probability as to be town as you are.
But yeah both of venrob's case doesn't make sense.

[Nekoko]

Why are you now condoning starting early wagons when you were

just

defending it?

Dodging that.

...

Seriously? I said you were suspect based on the reason you gave for starting the wagons, not for the act itself.

Everyone w/ common sense would immediately detect
that it's a random reason to a random vote.

Of course my vote will be switched to suspicious
players eventually but now it seems you're one now.

Just like with MissMaggot above. The reason given was suspect. You said you don't like random votes, and then gave a vote for a completely random reason. The contradiction, not the action itself, was suspect.

If I understand this clearly, your reason for voting me and suspecting me is the same as MissMaggot?
But then later you said MissMaggot is an honest townie so that's why you didn't vote her. Is that correct?

[Nekoko]

While it's not me you're talking to, I can see you're not applying this in context.
If both yours and missmaggot's votes were reasonless then you would be able to use this as case material on Paschendale.
However it is that both of you used completely different reasoning on your votes, he found both of them to be suspicious.
You need to look below the surface to understand how they are different reasons for what appears to you to be the same thing.

I said this because as I already posted a while ago, I did the same thing in my previous game as townie
so it's basically a null tell. That's the way I play. So it doesn't make sense to me.

But come to think of it, I shouldn't expect him to look at my previous games.

[Nekoko]

Sorry guys, I've been busy for the past few days. I will definitely post tomorrow at the same time I posted this.
I had exams and will have another one tomorrow.

[Nekoko]

Sorry guys I don't think I can play right now
as I'm currently busy with school and stuff.

MOD: I would like to be replaced please

[Nekoko]

Sorry to disappoint people!