Newbie 1368 - Will there ever be a title? (GAME OVER)

[Majiffy]

I'll get to this game tonight, I'm about to head out soon.

[Majiffy]

On page 14 so far.

Scum
{

Candillan

, LnGrrrR, imkingdavid}
Town
{

RachMarie

, Grim,

Syryana, Ravenpaw

}
Bolded are stronger.

Missing someone, not sure which slot it is. Also Cand you mentioned having a completed town game; can I see that, please?
I'll finish my re-read when I get home tonight.

[Majiffy]

Still a little scumbutt.

[Majiffy]

Did he claim doc? Because if he wasn't pushed into claiming that might make our job a bit easier.

[Majiffy]

BTW just to let everyone know since I am an educator and a history buff: Caesar was part of the name of a branch of the Julian family (hence Gauis Julius Caesar). Since Roman families shared so much of their name in common, even tending to pick certain names like Gauis and Sextus for the Julia family, they often added a colorful second name to their family name. Caesar refers to having a thick head of hair (which since the most famous one was going bald early was rather ironic). Later his heir and great nephew Gauis Octavius as part of his plan to rule Rome deified his great uncle and turned Caesar into a synonym for being the emperor. We know him better as Augustus the first Emperor of Rome.

Rach what the fuck does this have to do with anything.

[Majiffy]

If that mkfuba slot flips scum, Rach is the partner fyi.

[Majiffy]

Grim and Syr both slip towards the scummy end of the spectrum by the end of page 18.

[Majiffy]

Uhhh what the fuck happened at the end of d1. There

was

plenty of support for a Syr wagon, David and Rach both claimed preference for a Syr lynch over an LGR lynch and yet... quickwagon?

Both of you have a lot of explaining to do ASAP.

[Majiffy]

Ok my final reads are such:
I have strong

town

reads on

Homer, Eno.

I have weak

town

reads on

Grim, Rach.

(Note: Associatives will condemn either one of these players as scum depending on different flips)
I have a weak

scum

read on

Core.

I have a strong

scum

read on

Syryana.

VOTE: Syryana

I'm heading out to go get intoxicated. Peace.

[Majiffy]

David's placement of L-1 fits his mindset. I was mostly concerned with Rach's hammer. That being said, Eno's posting has been strictly pro-town, and has solidified his slot as town for me.

p-edit: Which reads are you confused about, specifically?

[Majiffy]

Syr is scum from vote hopping, jumping opportunistically on wagons.

Rach is still slightly town because I have experience with reading her. However her play has been troublesome so she has moved from strong town to just barely leaning town; I have associative tells with certain players that will better discern her alignment.

[Majiffy]

Interesting wagons.

[Majiffy]

Grim shut the fuck up and vote Syr. Rach is probtown.

[Majiffy]

Also your idea of putting me in the lynch pool regardless of Rach's flip 1) Means you should be voting me, and 2) Means you're fucking retarded.

[Majiffy]

Also your idea of putting me in the lynch pool regardless of Rach's flip 1) Means you should be voting me,

First thing's first.
You just got here and your slot is practically devoid of information, since your predecessors said nothing.

Yet you feel ready to certify me as scum based on no flips. Because that's exactly what putting me in the lynching pool regardless of a Rach flip means.

Deflect all you want; I'll call you out on this all day.

But you already established you're not sincere through your reads

Uh,

what?

so yes, you deserve to be lynched later for it if nothing better comes up.

Ok; putting aside the fact that you have a faulty premise... You think my reads are insincere, and so

I deserve to be lynched later

if nothing better comes up?

You are either the scummiest or worst player I've ever run into on this site. Potentially both.

Don't call me retarded, even if you mean it and think it objectively to be true. It's irrelevant and it won't in any way make me sway in the direction you want me to.

So? Tell me what it means in regards to scumhunting, what it doesn't mean, and give a

real

answer as to why I shouldn't call you what you are;

dumb as fucking bricks.

[Majiffy]

Process of elimination (I gave you my strong townreads, my gut screams Syryana is scum), your initial "strong townread" on RachMarie that can simply not be explained (you'll realize as soon as you try), your current "weak townread" on her despite having pointed to so many things against her.

Is this devil majick or did you just turn this statement from your shit reads onto some weird psychological projection of my reads being shit? I can explain Rach fully, thank you, along with Syryana. There are also something like 7 other players in the game, whom I have given reads on and you happen to conveniently ignore here.

Welcome to my FOS bucket.

MAybe you should add a touch of color to that "what", to further stress your fake surprise.

A+ deflection, you want to explain your statement now?

VOTE: Grim

[quote="In post 965, Grimgroove"
Yes, you just repeated what I said and called it stupid. That's not an argument. [/quote]
Neither is your argument. I'm calling you stupid, I'm not arguing your stupid argument.

[quote="In post 965, Grimgroove"
A real reason? It offends me and takes away the joy from my game.[/quote]
"boo hoo, people are insulting me in a game that requires players to illicit emotional responses from each other! I can't stand being butthurt on the internet! wah pity me!"

Fuck off.

[quote="In post 965, Grimgroove"I'm here to have fun and you are getting in the way of that by being unnecessarily rude. What's wrong with a respectful disagreement anyway? Doesn't provide the same charismatic aura you're going for?[/quote]
I'm having fun; why are you so troubled by it?

[Majiffy]

Fixed tags:

Process of elimination (I gave you my strong townreads, my gut screams Syryana is scum), your initial "strong townread" on RachMarie that can simply not be explained (you'll realize as soon as you try), your current "weak townread" on her despite having pointed to so many things against her.

Is this devil majick or did you just turn this statement from your shit reads onto some weird psychological projection of my reads being shit? I can explain Rach fully, thank you, along with Syryana. There are also something like 7 other players in the game, whom I have given reads on and you happen to conveniently ignore here.

Welcome to my FOS bucket.

MAybe you should add a touch of color to that "what", to further stress your fake surprise.

A+ deflection, you want to explain your statement now?

VOTE: Grim

Yes, you just repeated what I said and called it stupid. That's not an argument.

Neither is your argument. I'm calling you stupid, I'm not arguing your stupid argument.

A real reason? It offends me and takes away the joy from my game.

"boo hoo, people are insulting me in a game that requires players to illicit emotional responses from each other! I can't stand being butthurt on the internet! wah pity me!"

Fuck off.

I'm here to have fun and you are getting in the way of that by being unnecessarily rude. What's wrong with a respectful disagreement anyway? Doesn't provide the same charismatic aura you're going for?

I'm having fun; why are you so troubled by it?

[Majiffy]

Prior experience with Rach, knowing her mannerisms and the way she thinks. Her early posting in this game seemed more like her town game than her scum game.

[Majiffy]

I'll fetch quotes tomorrow. I have to be up in 4 hours and do a number of things I am not physically in the mood to do. One of which being your mother.

[Majiffy]

Far too intoxicated; will deal with tomorrow.

[Majiffy]

Either Syryana or Core. GG

VOTE: Core

[Majiffy]

Vote me, you will only lynch a townie.

[Majiffy]

Not with one scum down. We're looking at 5 v 1, which gives us 2 mislynches, and more information than skipping a day or two and letting cop invo.

[Majiffy]

I still think Majiffy is the more obvious choice though. Look at his posts. He claimed toh ave a strong townread on her, yet never explained why. After some shenanigans at the end of the first daystage her read her a slight town. He called me "dumb as bricks" for believing RachMarie was scum. If anyone was defending her, it was him.
He was online during the end of the previous day. He posted in other topics at the time,b ut not here, choosing not to be seen, choosing not to hammer. He was hoping for a no lynch rather thans ee his buddy lynched.

Go look at my scum games. I bus and I bus hard. You won't ever catch me as scum using the above tactic.

However her play has been troublesome so she has moved from strong town to just barely leaning town;

I have associative tells with certain players that will better discern her alignment.

Now would be a good time to specify.

I'll dig in later, I'm heading out the door now.

---

Setup spec is completely fucking useless at this point. Scum could have no-killed, there could be a doc, there could be a roleblocker, there could be a bulletproof. We simply

do not know

. Speculating about the setup just gives scum somewhere to hide in and distracts us from actual scumhunting. Stop it.

[Majiffy]

Oh wait this is a newbie nevermind.

[Majiffy]

Anyway I'll be back later.

[Majiffy]

If that mkfuba slot flips scum, Rach is the partner fyi.

This pins money on Core, which is great, because that's who I was expecting to be scum anyway.

--
David/Rach team not likely/plausible because of how the d1 hammering went down.

[Majiffy]

David being enomis now.

[Majiffy]

Oh this setup is 2 of 4 so yeah we don't know if it was doc or jk that stopped the kill, or if mafia no killed (unlikely) altogether.

Setup spec is unlikely to help us here.

[Majiffy]

OK YOU KNOW WHAT FINE WHATEVER IM JUST GOING TO TAKE MY TOYS AND PLAY IN THE CORNER.

[Majiffy]

I just ISO'd Core. I suggest everyone does the same thing. I think
VOTE: Majiffy
is the most reasonable thing to do after having done this. I don't really see the scum-Core as much as I thought I would have.

Look at mkfuba/Rach interactions.

And let me get this straight...

you believe I'm scum, but I didn't know the setup until recently?

Fucking retard.

[Majiffy]

Syryanisturgisbad vote Core.

[Majiffy]

It has nothing to do with me being disingenuous; he said himself;

Along the lines of "I'd rather have a lynch than nothing", which wouldn't have sounded convincing out of his mouth, given his lack of involvement in the game (

he didn't even know the set-up until recently

). I think he didn't want to bother with the coating, and thus also not with the vote, with the added bonus of perhaps leaving the rolecop alive for another day.

Ergo he BELIEVES that I didn't know the setup until recently. What fucking scum doesn't know at least some semblance of what setup they're playing?

And ISO me for why you should vote Core. Or, I don't know, read the fucking thread maybe.

[Majiffy]

Make it Core.

[Majiffy]

Why would you know the set-up better as scum?

Standard setup in newbies now is 6matrix, not 2 of 4. So that would kinda maybe be a big tip-off to scum, yeah?

Not really sure how to speak complete moron but I'm dumbing it down for you as best as possible right now.

I'm not moving my vote.
You'll have to try to convince other people if you want to survive, but I won't be part of the 4 people majority that is not on a wagon behind you, you'll have to accept this fact and move on.

Lol ok I'll just save my mocking for the post-game then.

[Majiffy]

you didn't read the game yourself

False

your reads on RachMarie were spectacularly wrong

Your read on me is spectacularly wrong.

I dislike you

Sounds like a personal problem.

and you are of no use to town even if you are aligned as such.

Ha, sure thing buddy.

[Majiffy]

you didn't read the game yourself

False

You did not know the set-up.
How can you not know the set-up if you read the game?
We were talking about a jailkeeper and you had no clue what that was all about, you didn't know a doctor had died earlier, an event that should leave a moment of pause that you have ignored.
You don't give two shits about this game and it is obvious. You probably even forgot to send in the night kill because you couldn't be bothered.

Simple question: is it necessary to read the OP to read what the players in the game have said and done? This is a yes or no question.

[Majiffy]

In most games; definitely not. In newbies; less so. But still important.

[Majiffy]

I am a minority of MS frequenters that feels night kill analysis (NKA, or NK analysis) is useful. Most players on this site dismiss it at WIFOM, but I think it is VERY useful. Along with VCA.

-pedit: Night reports?

Might I remind you that I give zero shits about this game, so please remind me of things I've missed.

[Majiffy]

Oh this setup is 2 of 4 so yeah we don't know if it was doc or jk that stopped the kill, or if mafia no killed (unlikely) altogether.

Setup spec is unlikely to help us here.

You toyed with the possibility that the doc assured the absence of a kill in N2. The doc died in N1.
From someone who thinks night kills are important for analysis, this comes as a surprise.

You toyed with the possibility of me being scum.
Considering you knew that I forgot the doc had died, this comes as a surprise.

That said, I find Core's reply to the allegations and to the L-1 far too meek. We probably hit scum with that one.

No shit.

[Majiffy]

I'm so sorry. I feel so stupid now. You're absolutely right.
Let's lynch Core now and get this over with.

See, life is so much easier if you just listen to me in the first place.

[Majiffy]

Well, you know, if they just listened to me in the first place, we wouldn't have these problems, now would we?

[Majiffy]

So I think we've all learned a valuable lesson here today; Majiffy is right and Grim is soooo, soooo wrong.

[Majiffy]

No you were still a little scumbutt, you just weren't mafia-aligned.

[Majiffy]

So I think we've all learned a valuable lesson here today; Majiffy is right and Grim is soooo, soooo wrong.

Must...resist...aah...can't...yes, but must...a little bit........further.......AAAAAH


I have reached inner peace.

Lol