Newbie 1420: Fireproof (Game Over)

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VOTE: Super Serious Gal



FIRST TO DO THAT

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That's a nice L-2 wagon on the first page when people haven't even posted yet!

Smoker probs scum

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Um

Isn't that L-1

On page one

wat

Mara halp pls

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...calling people prs

Mara where have I heard that before

And I do funny things sometime VT, this is one of them.

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+I wanted to see how much further the wagon on me would go. This gives s a wagon to analyze, whereas if I voted prematurely we might not have as good a wagon.

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VOTE: VT

Serious vote.

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I disagree.

I think he's probably a newbie, yes. But I'm not necessarily sure he's not scum.

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VOTE: Smoker

Sorz Mara can't sheep you atm

VT should get an avatar

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Here's some reasonings

1) You're trying to push people up to L-1 for claims.

2) You've flipflopped on everyone without so much as a reason for half of them

3) You say "haha, funny guys, unvote me because I'm town" which is a really weird stance for town to take, the odds of that stance is slim to none

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>noobtown

This cockiness is weird.

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You're baiting me like hell.

It's not OMGUS, it's behaviour and thnigs you've said. You've said you want to run people up for claims. Town run people they think are scummy up to L-1 yes, but they don't go after any and every townie.

Calling yourself "obvtown" is something I've seen scum do before.

Mudslinging anyone voting you is something scum do.

Asking people to unvote rather than being pro-town and providing reasonnings is something scum do.

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Mara I swear to god you better not be doing the same thing you did in popcorn

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If you have players already here, try to figure out their alignment. Inactives get replaced.

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Self voting during RVS is a scumtell.

I disagree.

Feel free to give a case though.

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Was it something I said?

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VOTE: ASP

MAra you should join me

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Smoker you need to work on conveying why you think someone is mafia

Game going slow=/= IC is scum. Look at 1393, that was slow and the IC was town

1392 too.

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That Later looked like it was directed to me

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VOTE: VT

lolscumslips

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Dunno RM, this cockiness is bugging me.

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I do so know what I'm doing

I have a habit of votejumping to get reactions

Mara and I play together a fair amount, I think we have like 4/5 games including hydrae games together completed

Actually I don't even care why you suspect me there could be a number of reasons for that but I'm probably not getting lynched today anyways so at least answer the other two they just don't make sense.

This sounds like scum saying "well there's TONS of reasons to lynch me, but I'm safe today!"

Scum care more about how they appear

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It's VT/ASP team Mara, hate to break it to you

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Didn't I already give a reason

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@ASP
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If you look at my history of games, you'll find I don't ever have a problem with where my vote is (I selfvote and all that other stuff for reactions sometimes, (although selfvotes are bad :<)) and vote townreads or conftown just to see how others react

He's also definate newbtown for the last bit.

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Mara thinks AtE is a scumtell

jk she thinks it's a null tell but it's more fun to say she thinks it's a scumtell

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Lmfao

I am ALWAYS jokey.

I can't say it's a scumtell because I do it all the time as either alignment

It depends on the situation

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And ASP you're misrepping like crazy

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TNE

Care to actually do stuff

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Smoker, some people aren't spam posters like you and myself.

It's not over until the fat lady sings. (or CD says so)

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Rach he does that like everywhere

So any lynch on him is essentially a PL

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It's not a great example :L

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VT saw people townreading Smoker who was saying "I'm town" or the likes and tried to say "Well look at other suspicious people" which is like "I'm not the ONLY suspicious one why are we all bullying me" which is a scummy mindset

ASP is just flipfloppy and scummy as fuck

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Mara

I really hope TIP switches in to argue with you

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Yeah, VT needs more votes.

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Mara are you scum

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Why does my cogdis bug you mara

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I want to see a reads set from CE

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is it just me

or is that parroting CE

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RAch where are you standing on everyone

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Then who is VT's pratner Mara?

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Son of a bitch wisdom stop stalking me

Hi Feel It

Why is VT town and why do you think Mara is scum

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Even more then popcorn mara?

Pedit- About VT- I know how joanne acted, but it looked more like an act (similar to how TIP won that scum game)

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Even more then popcorn mara?

Pedit- About VT- I know how joanne acted, but it looked more like an act (similar to how TIP won that scum game)

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Oh my god

Son of a bitch

VOTE: Mara

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The fact she hates drawing scum also applies to why she was lurking in this game (which smoker pointed out)

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+I meant the end

But yeah

okay

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I can't wait for her to come in and rage at you

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Gah, wisdom, you're probably right about VT.

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It's more the nerves about someone agreeing with your reads

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Also who are TIP and joanna? Is someone willing to provide at least a little bit of background so we can all understand these references?

TIP is TheIrishPope, and his first scumgame he played it like an awestruck newbie and won.

Joanne is someone Wisdom and I just played with (we were both scum in that game) who wasn't fully sure how everything in the game worked and was newbtown

Wisdom what do you think the odds are on a CE/Mara scumteam

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TNE is a lurkfest in like every game but either of the other two are viable

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Doing background on him, he puts more effort into his scumgames and is lurky as town-

Check open 497 vs 495

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@VT, myself, Rach and Mara all know him.

When he's town he's usually dead on (like in open 514 he pegged 3/4 of the scum, and had a hand in winning open 500).

Do I feel like he's town? Yes.

Does he always play the same? No.

Pedit Feel it why am I town I didn't even post hitler pics yet

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Yep

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Because I was stupid as fuck not to see Mara being sum and you pointed it out this time, which there was ultimately no reasoning to do given the other wagons available. You could have pushed a number of people but chose someone only suspected by one.

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I do feel like he's town,but you just have to be careful around players that are experienced enough to do that.

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Mara

Come on now

usrs

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If Mara flips town I could see ns being scum. He agreed with my scumread on her too easily, especially given he was scumreading my slot.
But she won't flip town anyway

Yes

I am totally scum

Totally

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hmmm

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um

I'm not particularly ready for a hammer yet

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Because I'm lazy

And I'd rather see the intent wait for that

But mostly because I'm lazy

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It's not the site meta

You just got paired with people who like to do that

What happens is based on different people.

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I disagree about TNE and Wisdom.

CE Rach Mara Proph is the pool for me.

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HEy Wisdom

Why can you meta me

But Mara can't and she has more games with me

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TNE give me a post that's not parroty plox

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That's not how it works VT.

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No.

Confidence does not a scum make

Why do you think everyone townread smoker?

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Hi

Why are all the experienced people on mara

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o/

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We need to stop the ambiguity before we all die

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Hi

Why are all the experienced people on mara

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What do you think wisdom?

It seems strange to me that the people voting her are more experienced and nt a single newbie is.

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Rach the same wis-town in 1402?

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Rach full reads scale plox

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Rach why is ns town?

Because my role PM says so

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Okay wisdom

VOTE: notscience

What next

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I can't tell if this is town wisdom being paranoid or scum wisdom thinking he can push a ML on me

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Mara why is Wis voting me

VOTE: Rach

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Mara said to vote her and I did

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Because your 180 on me makes me doubt she's scum

Especially that you used that to conveniently get off of her

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1) You came in "NS IS TOWN MARA IS SCUM NS VOTE MARA GOGOGOG"

Now- nvm ns is scum lemme vote him to get off mara's wagon

2) Subtly trying to assert yourself being town I see

And I'm not trusting her VT read just Rach

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Because Mara said so

And bcoz Mara is prontown I dont want to lynch her

Im town so no

VT is prob town

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Lynches give vca and flips to analyze

id take her over a townread any time

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im obvtown wis

But lol

Yes feel it

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"pushing"

He's just confbias tunneling like usual

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Methinks wisdom needs further investigation...

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Why is it everyone I frequently play with is having trouble reading me lately

It's so weird

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lolwat

TNE kill

Wait

Mara did you draw scum with Wisdom

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See, there is no scum reason to kill someone with activity like TNE's

TNE knows Mara decently though

And Wisdom didn't die when him dying would allow them to push me saying "well wisdom said so"

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Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

That's sounding a little TOO informed for my liking

VT is town definately

But everyone else in this game

Jesus

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Mara is scum

VOTE: Mara

ALL ABOARD FOR TOWNCRED

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Why is she "freakishly" town now?

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Yeah

How the fuck did Mara and Wis manage to draw scum together

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So wisdom isn't telling you the full story of 1402

Wis pointed out a point that looked like obv pr talk and I was like yeah then I can do a 180 blahblah

But This isn't the same

1) TNE is a townread of mine

2) I'm not scum

Wis and Mara drawing scum together is my worst nightmare

>.>

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REgardless.

You're painting it like it was all my idea when it wasn't.

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So

Me doing NKA as scum in one game and me doing NKA here means I'm scum?

lol

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I'm scum because you realized that I'd catch on to you and mara both being scum

cool beans

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Easy

You and Mara seemed obvtown yesterday

Yet when you and Mara are obvtown you and Mara have ways of dying N1

Yet TNE died and now you're pushing me

Who does TNE know decently?

Mara

Who pushed Mara but then helped lead to the dissolution of the wagon on her?

You

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Since when have I seen you do it as town

Wisdom, why would I have killed TNE when I could have killed you (assuming me scum you town)?

TNE was inactive as fuck yet you enjoy taking the thread for yourself and making your opinion known

"forced opinions"

That's laughable wisdom.

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"clearly intended to push me"

Lolwut

I wouldn't be instalynched because 1) You wouldn't flip town

2) I'm town

So no, nice try scum.

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Nah

I started doubting my townread

I never explicitly said you were scum, keep reaching though.

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Really wisdom?

That's funny, didn't you link a game where as scum I killed people I wanted to push on?

Suspiciousssssssssss

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Yep.

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It's 1402

And you're blatantly lying now

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90%

VOTE: wis

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we've been over it

He was a scumread of mine that everyone saw town, why wouldnt I want to push him

You're construing the game to fit your needs, which is scummy as fuck.

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I was, why else would I have done a 180?

And you KNOW I caught you and are conveniently "oh I didn't know that"

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Oh, you must have read your Day 2 ISO.

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Nice try, but you aren't going to push the ML on me scum.

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Hi Feel It

I'm thinking a Mara/Wisdom scumteam

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^The above post is bs

He knows I wing things

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Hey wis how sad are you that you don't have a newbie wrapped around your little finger this game

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You see, scum

I'm not scum

You know I'm not scum and have decided you want to try and lynch me and your plan is failing but you can't disengage even though everyone knows you're wrong because you've set yourself up for failure

So /shrug

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l0l

That vote on Banakai was your attempt to get off of me

Yeah wis is scum e z

Pedit

610 comes from obvtown suck on that

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Wisdom is scum

Discuss

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Lets look at these wagons

Wisdom is scum and should get lynched

Banakai is town by PoE

And notscience is obvtown

Good job keeping 2 other wagons going in an attempt to save one of your own @Mara and Wis

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Easy

You and Mara are scum

And if you two are scum then Banakai HAS to be town

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Wrong, we had a flip yesterday

and we had a night flip

Both of these are contributing to my scumreads on you two, which inadvertantly PoE's Banakai to be town

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...


I like this one

Can we keep it

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You

I'm dying over here

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WE NEED MORE WIFOM

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Oh my god

Lmfao

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You should meta him

He likes to control the post counts

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Um

Wisdom

Hold the fucking phone

You came in and convinced ME that VT was town

And now she scumreads you and you say she's scum

10/10

Mara how the fuck is Wis town for you

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MARA ANSWER ME ABOUT WHY YOU SAY HES TOWN

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I don't understand Mara

And I really doubt that all 3 of us are town

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Hey Mara

Cop with a guilty

You know how this works

Pedit- He's saying if we have a PR that wants to CC you then they shouldn't counter because if wisdom flips town that proves you to be scum

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.-.

Wisdom is right you are sounding so much like me

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VT are you from PO

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Tell us, oh great and wise wisdom, if VT is scum who is VT's partner?

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Um prophy

wat

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That's a no

VT if you're town we definately need to play more games together

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In case it isn't obvious this is Wis coaching his scumbuddy not to CC to try and save him which means that Mara isn't scum, and I don't think Feel it is.

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Because this whole day has been so hilarious and your style is kinda similar to mine it is amazing

I have to have the "if" there for political reasonings

And if you're scum you have an insanely good scumgame and I'd probably be too busy crying

Pedit VT because Prophy's his scumbuddy I'll bet money

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Oh btw that "bet money" bit is a joke

my b

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Yeah it's Wis/Prophy

"Yeah we caught scum!" then needs time to think about that caught scum?

lolnah

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I play with him a good amount that's why I was like wait what

NKA (night kill analysis) is kinda outdated and not really used anymore but in newbie games night kills can speak VOLUMES about the scum bit

Frankly I'm shocked mara has been townreading him when she has just as much if not more experience than me with him

Looking at his coaching, with Banakai's experience I find he makes less likely to be coached but with Prophy as new as he is would be like "ohshit scumbuddy going down must save"

I also don't recall much from wisdom about prophy but hm

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THATS IT

READ THAT POST ABOVE THIS AND TELL ME THAT DOESNT SOUND FAKE

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Mara you're a lovely IC <3

unless you forget postgame reviews

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Also

How would he have that knowledge

He hasn't stated that he meta'd wisdom

He hasn't played with Wisdom

It sounds like Wisdom warned him ahead of time

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What are you thinking of a prophy scumbuddy

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wat

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You have a 50% chance of there being a doctor

What do you want to talk about?

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I don't see Banakai needing the coaching as much

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?...

lol proph

Pedit meh about the earlybussing, it didnt go far enough for analysis

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Funny, I seem to remember wisdom pegging me as scum for something similar

"Time to get back to scumhunting"

Hammered

I was an SK

pedit yay mara

drank the koolaid

realized the right scumteam

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Yeah it's Banakai or Prophy

Unless mara is scum and needs coaching

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LOL

Night VT

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WHY CAN I MAKE A CASE FOR BOTH OF THEM BEING SCUM

JESUS

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You and Prophy.

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No I mean that I could see EITHER of you as a scumbuddy

Decreeing your town only works if you're me

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I kinda missed it brb

Well, looking for softclaims is something scum do so idk

I can kinda see it

But I can see the coaching leaning towards a newbie which makes me think not mara

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Dunno. Not particularly sure atm.

If it wasn't coaching that would implicate me mara or feel it as scum.

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;-;

Fucking scum

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I agree.

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Because we haven't heard from everyone today, and it literally started AN HOUR AGO.

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Coolbeans, scum.

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.-. So much for discussion.

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Can we get your last reads

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Lol'd

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No, Mara, Banakai, you.

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Why so fency?

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I'll be honest, I'm leaning to you heavily over Mara.

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Didn't we just lynch prophy?...

Here's my issue- You're being very NONONONONO NOT ME rather than "omg they are so scum"

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...Did you even read yesterday at all?

As well as I don't remember any case

Pedit- Ah

It's associatives. Wisdom's whole NO FAKECLAIMS PLOX looks like scum coaching. I really doubt Mara would need that coaching compared to newbies.

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the fuck kinda post is that?

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I

Hate

Lylo

so

much

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VOTE: Banakai

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yay

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<3

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I actually forgot I was scum until N2

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Banakai you can't even blame her you were townreading me too lol

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Hindsight Bias

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I'm not going to lie me realizing I was scum and not town with VT made me sad

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Frankly had I not forgotten my role pm mara would have gotten me

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Yeah I thought I was just a VT

then I get a pm that I had night actions to submit

then was like

lolwut

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I actually do really good when I replace in usually

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http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/ERZ362gp49J

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wp Feel It

I wanted to leave you til lylo but it was more fun messing with mara

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DAMNIT I FORGOT TO POST THAT

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You should

Some people use it, but my scum strategy depends on who I'm playing with (and if i remember I'm scum)

Usually I kill people townreading me though

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VT once everyone was drinking my koolaid about coaching I was like lol gg

I could probably have brought anyone to lylo and still won

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But I kinda want to draw town with you for real now xd

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NO MARA I WANT TO HYDRA WITH VT FIRST BACK OFF