NG 1479: Somebody's Gonna Die! (OVER!)

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/confirm
I'm an SE. If you have any question and Espe can't answer for whatever reason or we see it first, we've got experience on Mafiascum and can help you out.

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Any updates?

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Hey guys,
VOTE: Voidedwalker1234

I don't believe jon will be joining us. I killed him off in pre-game...

I've lost count of how many completed games I have. I tried to keep my wiki page up to date, but then I went on hiatus for a few months, and it fell apart.

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@VW (are you good with this abbreviation?)
I'm not allowed to talk about ongoing games, but you'll see.

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jon! You ruined my plan! But your plan is a good one.

VOTE: Victor

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@Espe
My interpretation was that you were scum for implying that you yourself was town with no reasoning other than your word.

That's why my vote is on him.

@mod

: I think a complimentary prod for the last 3 people to remind them that D1 started would be appropriate bcuz of the downtime and the confusion.

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Oh god that sentence made no sense

EBWOP:
My interpretation was that he said you were scum for implying that you were town, despite having no reason to imply that.

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Oh whoops, I didn't realize there was a page two until now

Any thoughts on page 2?

@Victor
I voted you for the sake of adding pressure to get us out of RVS faster in case we slipped back in. Clearly not.

Drone then Dritan
VOTE: Drone67

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Honestly I feel like they are scum partners who are seriously bussing each other, but who know?

What's your reasoning?

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@HITD Where was Espe defensive? I'm not seeing it. Btw, are you good with that abbreviation?

Regarding a Dritan/Victor scumteam, I seriously doubt they would try to pull this off together. It draws too much attention to them.

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@inquiries: Just being clear on my thoughts. I'm perfectly happy to form town reads asap. Gives me stuff to orbit my reading around.

Is this what you thought was defensive?

@Espe
Hope your hip feels better!

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Any reads? Care to make a vote?

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Victor can be town for 52.
It's reasonable and calm where I would expect scum to be overly emotional.

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Drone RVS voted, saw that there was more to the game, unvoted, then left. I'd like him to contribute more.

Dritan is my next scum choice currently because of his Victor misrep, and mainly what everyone else is saying.
VW's hunch on a Victor-Dritan scumteam has no backing (albeit, by definition), but I don't like how he was fencing on his point. He only revoted after I questioned him on his hunch.
jon, espe, null, null. They need to post more.
You're town for your line of question.
HITD is town for his recent Dritan vote. Scum wouldn't stick out their head and put someone at L-1 so early, especially when they're unfamiliar with site meta. (Speaking of which, @HITD, I can show you why no lynching isn't beneficial to town if you're curious)
You've seen my Victor read/reasoning.

Also, nobody unvote Dritan. Anybody who hammers him is practically claiming scum.
So in case it wasn't clear to some people,

Dritan will be lynched if one more vote is placed on him

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But you're forgetting that a night kill can only target town, so instead of having the chance to hit scum, you definitely lose a town for the first kill.
Plus, it doesn't actually earn town an extra day unless there's another no lynch or a no kill at night, so the math works in scum's favor.
This explains it better, and I'm sure you can find more in-depth theories on why no lynching is harmful, especially in the newbie setup.

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@Edos, HITD, Yuki

- Any reason none of you asked for a claim off Dritan once he was put to L-1?

I'm of the opinion that no claims should be given unless someone states intent to hammer once the person has been at L-1. Hammering without a claim is, again, an admission of guilt.

One of {Victor, HITD, Dritan} is scum for this interaction. I'll actually explain my reasoning later today.

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@Edos:

Drone RVS voted, saw that there was more to the game, unvoted, then left. I'd like him to contribute more.

Dritan is my next scum choice currently because of his Victor misrep, and mainly what everyone else is saying.

Just to clarify, do you mean your first scum choice is drone?

At this point, no. I was leaving it on him for pressure to post, but that pressure is broken now that I've said this.
UNVOTE: (@Drone - I still want you to post though. Get in here)

My number 1 choice is amongst Victor, Dritan, and HITD. I'm not willing to hammer Dritan.
VOTE: HITD
As for VW, he's my second scumpick.

You and jon are still town right now.
Also, your English is perfectly fine. I wouldn't've guessed that it's not your first language, so don't fret or anything.

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Edos A lot of Game Theory mixed in,

but mistakes understanding how the game works abound

. He has stated reads. He hasn't committed any fatal mistakes yet. Leaning Town.

I've made mistakes in understanding how the game works? Please do share. As I recall, you actually agreed with me on the wait for intent to claim thing and the no lynch thing.

Espe He's done a good job of helping Town along the way. Nothing suspicious, leans Town.

How do you read town from his content, but lurky scum from VW's? (excluding the fact that Espe's essentially been V/LA)

"These views are the poster's and do not reflect the views of the Forum as a whole, and should be viewed with a healthy dose of skepticism. The poster reserves the right to change these views with or without notice."

You pretentious bastard.

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Nawh, I loved your disclaimer.

HITD isn't scum actually. I think I'd prefer this lynch now:
VOTE: Voidedwalker1234

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@mod:

V/LA until Monday March 10

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Hi guys, I'll read this tonight-ish.

Hi SafetyDance