Newbie 1544 - Shakespeare Mafia: GAME OVER!

[Shinobi]

I forgot that I joined this game.

[Shinobi]

VOTE: Conrad

Let's see how he opens if there's a wagon on him.

[Shinobi]

Why is an IC vote an inherently newbie scum move?

[Shinobi]

I did nothing wrong.

Pay me no mind.

[Shinobi]

Don't worry, I'll probably forget too.

It's fine though.

[Shinobi]

Where's the deliberate misrep? I don't see it.

[Shinobi]

I don't interpret that as a misrep.

The way I saw it, Klingon rvs'd and aphix questioned him on his rvs. Klingon said that Nacho could be scum, but never said that beforehand. Aphix's comment looks legitimate because Klingon voted Nacho beforehand without calling her scum explicitly.

So I see his line of questioning as legitimate. I don't have a problem with it.

[Shinobi]

I guess that's one interpretation of things.

I just don't see how it necessarily makes aphix scum, especially since this scenario can be interpreted a number of ways.

[Shinobi]

I already did this and you quoted it.

[Shinobi]

It doesn't matter if RVS has a purpose or not. You can totes question someone on their RVS.

I don't get why you're classifying my arguments as "white knighting" when I'm just trying to understand where this argument is coming from. It really doesn't feel all that important.

[Shinobi]

Talk to aphix then. All I'm saying is that I see a perfectly reasonable explanation for his line of questioning.

Does it make him town or scum? No. If you feel strongly about what he's doing in regards to Klingon, then I'm perfectly happy to let this play out and gather reads from what's going on.

[Shinobi]

Hi all!

VOTE: aphix

You sure are digging in your heels on an RVS vote, and the deliberate misrep means more coming from an SE than if it had simply been a newbie.

Serious vote is serious. RVS over.

Aphix is undoubtedly my strongest town read for his attempts to get the game started. I don't think the misrep had any scum motivation behind it: he was bored because the game was going slowly, and so he pressured Klingon to get a reaction out of him and jumped the gun too hard when looking for contradictions.

I actually agree with you. Shinobi is the one that has pinged my scumdar with irrational excuses and deflection.

VOTE: Shinobi

I fail to see anything scummy about my posts, but maybe I'm biased.

Could you explain without simplifying my posts into nothingness?

[Shinobi]

I actually find it incredibly odd that Nacho did the exact same thing that I just did but says the scumread on me is fine.

[Shinobi]

VOTE: Nacho

Yeah that post is bullshit and I'm voting him for it.

[Shinobi]

I actually find it incredibly odd that Nacho did the exact same thing that I just did but says the scumread on me is fine.

It's not like I have a scumread on you for it, I just don't have a town read on you for it. Why is that suspicious?

I think it's suspicious because it looked like you were promoting his scumread on me without passing proper judgement on it yourself. You kept your own perspective out of his thought process (IE that his scumread logic applied to you too) in yet you thought it was okay to tell him that he could push it.

It's a really strange way to interact with someone.

[Shinobi]

Or maybe your case was just fucking stupid.

[Shinobi]

Pfft.

Good thing we're in newbies.

[Shinobi]

I like Aphix for town, which solidifies my read on Shinobi.

I don't think you know how this game works.

[Shinobi]

I love how we're all calling each other bad in a newbie game.

Setting a great example, guys.

[Shinobi]

All of that said,

VOTE: Shinobi

I'll unvote if it turns into a hammer situation, because unsureness seems to be a recurring theme here.

Why do you agree with House?

[Shinobi]

UNVOTE: Nacho

His last set of posts is pretty good. Lots of implied attempts of understanding what's going on, and his townreads are anything but opportunistic.

Idk who to vote now though.

[Shinobi]

Can you explain?

[Shinobi]

Is he normally super aggressive when a game starts? Does he have quick strong reads normally?

I felt like his townreads would have severely limited his options in terms of mislynches, even if outing a bunch of townreads is a "safe" way to post.

[Shinobi]

Scratch that, I misrepresented some posts and realized that those three players are already throwing townreads at each other.

Idk.

[Shinobi]

He's normally just aggressive in general as town. He defends his townreads, he attacks his scum reads with force. He's a presence in the thread. He doesn't lack conviction; he's not weak.
Past games yes his reads are normally fast and accurate. As I said his RL restraints might be hindering him at the moment, but we just had a game together and he had conviction and here he doesn't.

Sounds fun.

Let's see how he plays out, then.

[Shinobi]

I know this sounds silly, but I think the scum team is probably inexperienced or the experienced player is probably lurking. The general gamestate feels off and that there's not a competing wagon which feels that scum are laid back.

/gut; no icant logic this

Also Shinobi. I dont know if you realized this or not, but I'm mala.

This would be more of a surprise if you didn't have the equivalent of a name tag in your signature.

[Shinobi]

YEAH I GOT IT THANKS.

[Shinobi]

VOTE: WBO

Your haircut is stupid.

[Shinobi]

No, it's because of your haircut.

I'm taking a new approach to voting. I am now a strong believer in the philosophy of using votes for things other than saying "I believe you are scum."

[Shinobi]

Christ stop it Shinobi

Leave him alone.

Yeah, take that Mala.

[Shinobi]

Those reads are awful and mostly unexplained. In the case that some of them were explained, the explanations were bad.

I'll just keep my vote here then.

[Shinobi]

How is it that you can come to the conclusion that WBO and me are both scum?

How does someone think "oh, my two top scumreads are totally willing to vote each other but they're still scum together?"

????

[Shinobi]

Oh the tinfoil.

[Shinobi]

If you've learned anything from me (sort of irrelevant) meta, I always rub off as scum.

Shit like this gets you rekt.

[Shinobi]

If you've learned anything from me (sort of irrelevant) meta, I always rub off as scum.

Shit like this gets you rekt.

Why I is in a noob games.

Self-metaing yourself as town is a bullshit way of making yourself less suspicious because you can interpret your own meta however you want and logically conclude yourself as town. The only good thing about it is that you actually had votes on you before you tried it, so it's more of a natural defense I guess.

I don't know if it's a stylistic thing or not for you, but it's bad. How bad and what kind of bad it is depends on how you keep playing. So, ultimately, it depends.

I'm sure someone else will be able to come up with a better explanation at some point.

[Shinobi]

There's so much characterization in that pbpa that it turned into a political cartoon.

Well done.

[Shinobi]

"No real scumhunting."

Scumhunting is subjective. You are a jub.

[Shinobi]

I really want to buy into the whole nacho post, but then i dont want too. ._.

So right now im gonna unvote:

UNVOTE: nacho

Aniem's catch up felt town. House i think is town. Aphix might be town.
Shin could be scum. Wbo's meta feels different, but idk if that makes him scum. King is null-leaning town.

Let me gwt home before postin another vote. Waitin' for VC mainly

wat

[Shinobi]

I don't understand what he's saying about anything and it bugs me.

[Shinobi]

We has an official counterwagon.

The members on Shinobi's are townier than the members on WBO's (not including Luca, who just joined).

Starting to doubt my WBO scumread.

Stuff like this is why I hate playing in newbie queue.

I'll post reads and stuff later today but House needs to stop drawing associative reads and such from everything.

[Shinobi]

I'm sorry, how is aphix's post a fluff post?

[Shinobi]

If you're trying to sway my vote though, that's not going to happen by impeaching other players.

Shinobi is scum regardless of WBO's (or anyone else's) alignment. The only way to shake my vote is for Shinobi to miraculously start sparkling obvtown.

I'm a stubborn SOB when I get my teeth into someone.

Alternatively you can sit down and explain why your case makes it "Shinobi is scum and there can be no other way" instead of writing about my supposed "white-knighting" at the start of the game and how it's scummy.

I can understand how you find it scummy. What I don't understand is how you take that narrative and decide to run it all the way to the bank without taking much else into account. It's pretty silly looking, but maybe I'm biased.

[Shinobi]

I read your ISO. As I stated in my fuckin. Post you didn't read there is no development of your shinobi read you go from shinobis town to I lean scum on him. No mentioning of him. No interaction with him. No attempt to interact with him. Nothing. Why is this a scum read? Not posting your reads or your thought process lets you decide when it'll be bwst to change your reads. And just claiming when they changed after the fact instead of having some sort of logical flow in thread.

You are revoting me so later you can say see aphix was wrong I was pushing his lynch when no one else was how's that the path of least resistance.

Moar desperation, pleez.

Can you explain the desperation? I don't really see desperation here.

Why are you voting aphix? Is it purely OMGUS motivated or what are you doing, exactly? Do you not see any value in what he's saying or is that post a post only scum could make?

[Shinobi]

Good defense.



UNVOTE: Klingoncelt

I believe aphix is just REALLY stupid.

I have no idea what to make of you.

[Shinobi]

I read your ISO. As I stated in my fuckin. Post you didn't read there is no development of your shinobi read you go from shinobis town to I lean scum on him. No mentioning of him. No interaction with him. No attempt to interact with him. Nothing. Why is this a scum read? Not posting your reads or your thought process lets you decide when it'll be bwst to change your reads. And just claiming when they changed after the fact instead of having some sort of logical flow in thread.

You are revoting me so later you can say see aphix was wrong I was pushing his lynch when no one else was how's that the path of least resistance.

Moar desperation, pleez.

Can you explain the desperation? I don't really see desperation here.

Why are you voting aphix? Is it purely OMGUS motivated or what are you doing, exactly? Do you not see any value in what he's saying or is that post a post only scum could make?

He's going hard with bad arguments at the only real noob in the game. He's trying to make it look like he's scumhunting, while setting me up for a mislynch either today or Day 2.

Why do you think they're bad?

[Shinobi]

Scum bad, specifically.

Not just bad in the sense that you don't agree with them because you never will and everyone knows that.

[Shinobi]

I love how I posted a thing to engage House and he just completely ignores it.

My wagon is so fucking derp I don't even.

[Shinobi]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Klingon

This is a good wagon, imo.

House probably thinks she's 2000% confirmed town now though.

[Shinobi]

Oh wait, no, I'm distancing obviously.

So this wagon is still viable.

[Shinobi]

I love how I went from town lean to best wagon to null to scumteam based on nothing.

[Shinobi]

I love how I went from town lean to best wagon to null to scumteam based on nothing.

I am having a hard time pinning down a read on you.

So why did you vote for me?

Several reasons.

1) I think that aphix's case is actually pretty good.
2) You OMGUS'd him based on that case, but you never indicated why it was purely a scum-motivated case and your reasoning was contrived.
3) It doesn't look like you care much about who gets lynched.

Not feeling a Klingon wagon.

Back home, I go.

VOTE: Shinobi

I am going to unvote Klingon for no reason and revote Shinobi for no reason.

Video gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames.

[Shinobi]

No, I'm saying your motive is really stupid and you unvoted Klingon for no reason. If there was a reason you were unvoting Klingon aside from "feels" which don't mean anything, then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

[Shinobi]

Technically I would have a problem with it since you'd still be voting me, but you're doing nothing but stuffing your head up your ass as is so what do I know.

[Shinobi]

Not lying. Your initial motive was bad and revoting me after unvoting Klingon for no reason is still revoting me for no reason. This is purely semantics.

House, are you actually scum or what?

[Shinobi]

Not lying. Your initial motive was bad and revoting me after unvoting Klingon for no reason is still revoting me for no reason. This is purely semantics.

House, are you actually scum or what?

Gotta love my heaping helping of misrep.

I stated long ago why you were scum and you have done absolutely nothing to redeem yourself since.

So you argued with my reads. BFD. Is not like scum will say, "zomg you totes got me".

If you want me to stop tunneling you, stop being obvscum.

I don't see how anything that I've done makes me "obvscum." It looks like you've taken a bunch of random things that I've done and cobbled together some sort of storyline about how it makes me scum, and I just don't see how it leads to "Shinobi is scum and there can be no other way."

I have no idea how I would even begin arguing with you because I just don't see much value in what you're saying to begin with. Looks like nothing more than a bunch of poor argumentation plus rhetoric to me.

[Shinobi]

That's a fun way of classifying/ignoring my entire ISO.

[Shinobi]

I really wish I was playing a game with a vig.

[Shinobi]

There's been one person still one hundred percent set on their scum read based on RVS. They claim they have proof someone is scum but don't provide it. Don't even point out what in this game is scummy. Period. They have continued to not provide content. They haven't attempted to scumhunt. Haven't even attempted to look at any other player in the game. Has jumped from town reading a player to scum reading them without any other interaction or mention. Has yet to actually provide any reason for anything they've ever done. It's so horribly anti town that I could lynch just on that alone. But it's also full of scum tells. Literally I'm done for today. Guys do what you want. I'll be on to prod dodge.

He's lying, and badly.

Sheep. me. now.

In a 1v1 between you and aphix I don't see a single person that would vote him over you.

Nothing that you have said has made him any more of a worthy lynch target. Your case is bad.

[Shinobi]

For fuck's sake.

Someone else vote WBO so I can force him to claim. It's going to happen sooner or later and we might as well get his claim into the open.

[Shinobi]

I won't, specifically because you're trying to get me to.

[Shinobi]

I didn't know it was scummy to want to force people to claim.

Huh.

[Shinobi]

You guys might lose your minds when you play with someone that loves to hammer.

This is kinda funny.

[Shinobi]

I giggle everytime someone calls me kitty, but I'm actually preferring RegalKitty.

Ugh Shinobi your reaction bothers me.

@Anem:

Meta WBO and you'll see what I mean he's acting differently here than he did in his town games. Although he's taken a break and has no scum meta so I might be completely off base, but it's a start I want to follow. The only other person I'd lynch atm is Nacho because I'm still not seeing town-Nacho and I tried, but it's lacking majorly.

Yeah well your everything bothers me so I don't see how that matters.

[Shinobi]

Lmao this game is hilarious.

[Shinobi]

I'm putting off playing this game more until tomorrow.

There are a lot of bad scumreads and they need to be fixed etc etc.

[Shinobi]

Someone is going to have to explain why they think Aphix is stupid because I don't see it.

I'll try to do some stuff in a couple of hours but don't get your hopes up.

[Shinobi]

I'll try to do some stuff in a couple of hours but don't get your hopes up.

I have up on that 20 pages ago.

Nha, you've made it abundantly clear that you're only seeing my filter through one lens. I hope you're mafia because having you as the future of mafiascum is really embarrassing. You're pretty dumb.

[Shinobi]

[Shinobi]

For some reason aphix has more votes on him than Klingon which is mindblowing. WBO getting lynched wouldn't be surprising but I don't find it to be a particularly high percentage scum hit for any reason in particular. I can hop on that wagon and not feel bad about the flip at all just for the sake of clearing up the game.

The people throwing Klingon onto their not lynch lists need to pull their heads out of their asses. Same thing with Nacho.

Seriously, has

anyone

sat down and realized that Nacho has done diddly squat and still manages to get higher up on people's not-lynch lists? It blows my fucking mind.

Luca Blight should be higher up on people's priority lists though. His reads list was dogshit; a bunch of convenient albeit wishy-washy scumreads that make no sense in context that he can change at his leisure, and he hasn't bothered to come back and fix any of it. He can effectively wind up on any wagon he wants just based off of reading thread sentiment and everyone put him up on their townlists for next to nothing.

If anyone has any questions for me, go ahead and ask. I'll get to you when I get off work hopefully.

[Shinobi]

I agree with aphix. Again.

[Shinobi]

UNVOTE: Klingon
VOTE: Luca

Let's do this. I can help make this wagon happen. The aphix wagon is obviously bad and the townies on it should feel bad.

[Shinobi]

House, get off of Aphix. Give us more time to build our case instead of letting scum hold the hammer.

Pedit: Holy shit you suck at this game.

[Shinobi]

Nacho why did you roll scum?

Why do you think this?

[Shinobi]

Sorry, 3 votes in 28 hours!
House, did you know if you switched votes, the aphix and Luca wagons would be equal?

You'd have had an easier time trying to sell me on a Shinobi vote. Especially with his eagerness to help you.

I don't think you're even trying to make sense anymore.

[Shinobi]

Many Nacho crossposte.

So we're not killing aphix.

[Shinobi]

Sorry, 3 votes in 28 hours!
House, did you know if you switched votes, the aphix and Luca wagons would be equal?

You'd have had an easier time trying to sell me on a Shinobi vote. Especially with his eagerness to help you.

You keep acting like we're scum together while voting aphix.
That doesn't make sense.

I didn't say I think he's scum. I said I could be sold on him easier than Luca.

[Shinobi]

Aphix is probably going to get lynched today and that really annoys me.

[Shinobi]

Good, there's hope for you yet.

@Mala and aphix: time to swap over to the Luca wagon.

[Shinobi]

I actually find it incredibly odd that Nacho did the exact same thing that I just did but says the scumread on me is fine.

It's not like I have a scumread on you for it, I just don't have a town read on you for it. Why is that suspicious?

Why is it suspicious? Because you're clearly leaving yourself open to the possibility of voting him further down the road!

See how easy it is to say that to anyone? Apparently that's worthy of a lynch.

I have no idea what you're saying here but I already know it doesn't make sense.

Pedit: Oh goddamn it.

[Shinobi]

I actually find it incredibly odd that Nacho did the exact same thing that I just did but says the scumread on me is fine.

It's not like I have a scumread on you for it, I just don't have a town read on you for it. Why is that suspicious?

Why is it suspicious? Because you're clearly leaving yourself open to the possibility of voting him further down the road!

See how easy it is to say that to anyone? Apparently that's worthy of a lynch.

I have no idea what you're saying here but I already know it doesn't make sense.

Pedit: Oh goddamn it.

So you're voting me based on Nacho's reasoning, yet you don't understand it?

Ok. Basically he's saying my catch-up readslist left room for voting people in future, I was just pointing out it is impossible not to do this, and gave an example of him doing this himself earlier in the game.

Except he didn't do this and I was the one who came up with the idea of killing you in the first place.

[Shinobi]

Mala, where did you go?

[Shinobi]

lol

I have the feeling that you and I will grow to be great frenemies.

[Shinobi]

I'm going to let this play out for a while.

Mostly because I have no idea what to do with myself.

[Shinobi]

What the hell is going on in here? All the poo-flinging crazy accusations should have happened last week.

Do you guys want a policy lynch?
Then fucking make up your minds between me, WBO, and Aphix.

Do you want a Scum lynch?
Then go for Aphix, Shinobi, or Nacho.

Tick tock.

So I'm guessing you pulled these reads directly from your own ass.

Wonderful.

[Shinobi]

I don't like Mala disappearing after getting a chance to interact with me. Unfortunately, not a lot of opportunity to do anything with that today.

Vote: Anen

Here we are again, leaving yourself open to future voting! See, you can't say what I did was any worse than this.

And to use another one of your arguments, why did you put the but about Mala in if there's nothing that can be done today? For shits and giggles?

Why is there more that can be done for Anen than Mala when they both had zero votes?

I think I have seen enough to warrant a vote.

VOTE: Nacho

Because Mala isn't getting lynched today and she fucked off completely after calling Nacho scum for no reason.

What is this.

[Shinobi]

I have no idea what's going on anymore.

Pedit: Yeah, also a weird vote from him. Idk.

[Shinobi]

UNVOTE:

I'll be around but I have no idea where to set up shop at this point.

[Shinobi]

UNVOTE:

I'll be around but I have no idea where to set up shop at this point.

Nacho is so scummy that aphix and I actually reached a consensus, so I don't see why you are struggling with it when you buddy aphix like mad on everything else.

Because I'm trying to spite you.

Isn't it obvious?

[Shinobi]

Nacho should probably claim. The VI can hammer and I want to know if he's really important or not sharpish. I don't think the wagon dissipates any other way at this point.

[Shinobi]

Ugh.

Intent to hammer, claim.

[Shinobi]

I don't even feel good about this lynch, but I don't see any alternatives. Nor do I see people willing to back me on anyone else at this point.

[Shinobi]

Wtffffff.

Yeah I posted on break and the Nacho wagon came out of nowhere.

Yep.

[Shinobi]

Stop tunneling me already, goddamn.

[Shinobi]

Can someone explain why that happened?

[Shinobi]

Can someone explain why that happened?

Why what happened?

Nacho got lynched.

And I'm still not sure why that is.

[Shinobi]

How is it that you come to the conclusion that I'm the safest lynch between Aphix-Shin-Klingon?

I have no idea how you're reaching your conclusions. Walk me through it pls.

[Shinobi]

Can someone explain why that happened?

Why what happened?

Nacho got lynched.

And I'm still not sure why that is.

All you have to do is read through the thread. Obviously the majority saw him as scummy. Unfortunately we were wrong.

Nacho's untimely demise isn't as curious as is Luca's sleeping with the fishes. Who did Luca scare?

No. Nobody gets to write off a nonsensical bandwagon as an "oh wellz" moment,

especially

when several people on the wagon had me as a scummier target and then hopped onto Nacho for very little. There is obvious scum motivation in pouncing on Nacho and most of those votes are unexplained or terrible.

When I get back from work, I'm going to parse it and see what's up.

[Shinobi]

Can someone explain why that happened?

Why what happened?

Nacho got lynched.

And I'm still not sure why that is.

I'm sorry.

What?
All you have to do is read through the thread. Obviously the majority saw him as scummy. Unfortunately we were wrong.

Nacho's untimely demise isn't as curious as is Luca's sleeping with the fishes. Who did Luca scare?

No. Nobody gets to write off a nonsensical bandwagon as an "oh wellz" moment,

especially

when several people on the wagon had me as a scummier target and then hopped onto Nacho for very little. There is obvious scum motivation in pouncing on Nacho and most of those votes are unexplained or terrible.

When I get back from work, I'm going to parse it and see what's up.

Are you going to do a Vote Analysis or are you going to try to make your choices fit a Scum profile?

[Shinobi]

Ebwop.

I'm sorry...What?

(Stupid phone.)

[Shinobi]

Mala are we having fun yet?

[Shinobi]

Did you guys hear something?

[Shinobi]

Also Shin if you could not lurk that'd be great.

Too late, the damage is done.

#lurk

[Shinobi]

I'll vote him eventually.

I'm in a very power hungry mood atm.

[Shinobi]

Just claim when someone else votes you.

Alternatively you can claim now because it's probably going to happen.

[Shinobi]

Sure?

[Shinobi]

Scumhunting is subjective.

Any other accusations you care to levy at me after the fact?

[Shinobi]

(I have more posts than Mala so wtf.)

[Shinobi]

(I have more posts than Mala so wtf.)

That doesn't really mean anything considering I was a replacement.

Shut up though.

House what's your read on WBO?

VOTE: WBO

About the same as my read on your slot.

I'm pretty sure you're just making things up as you go at this point.

[Shinobi]

Am not scum.

[Shinobi]

Why exactly is everyone townreading Aneninen? I haven't seen a good reason as to why this is yet.

[Shinobi]

If you really want to argue about the votecount thing, it's mostly just because House hammered before I did, despite me claiming that I wanted to hammer during day 2. You'll find that I've voted plenty of times throughout this game.

Looking back, I just...Don't see a good reason to townread Aneninen. I'm not explicitly saying he's scum...I just need him to talk and be up-to-date or something. I need to get a feel for what he's doing first hand.

[Shinobi]

@Shinobi. You're right, there's no direct proof that I'm town. However, I can say that I've been performing a blatantly "anti-scum" gameplay. There's someone who

could

explain it but I don't think that explanation will ever arrive – assuming that his/her gameplay is good. (And it is!) Unfortunately, the Nightkill suggests me that not only that player but also the scum knows what I meant by that. But, there's a chance that the scum was only lucky or I've been misreading everything.

That's not really what I'm talking about.

The issue I have with you is that you feel like wallpaper: most of your posts, albeit big and fancy, are sparse and forgettable, and the few times I've seen you in the thread you've been attacking me and my prime townread over some rather superficial stuff.

I don't know. I'm not sure if it's because I have an issue with your playstyle or not because I remember tunneling you in BE's game over far less. I'll probably look over your ISO at some point to make sure I'm not losing my mind. I remember you not being on the Nacho lynch, which is a good start since I have a hard time seeing that wagon being purely town motivated.

I've got to get my bearings because I've been really lazy this game.

[Shinobi]

Prodge.

Will be getting to this game tonight.

[Shinobi]

Most of that defense is wifom, kd. I don't know how I feel about it.

@Aneninen: I want to know your next pick for scum, knowing that an Aphix/Shinobi scumteam can't possibly be viable.

[Shinobi]

Alright, perfectly content to wait and see.

[Shinobi]

Am not scum.

I... actually agree with this.

I feel like doing nothing is working really well for me.

So I'm going to keep doing that.

[Shinobi]

Who's scum, Kitty?
Who's scum, Shinobi?

Yeah idk.

[Shinobi]

Who's scum, Kitty?
Who's scum, Shinobi?

Yeah idk.

[Shinobi]

I'm really annoyed with the fact that Klingon is calling both of us scum at the same time.

[Shinobi]

Very tempted, tbh.

I want Mala to get the fuck in here and do stuff, though. I'm considering being productive, and that's a really bad sign for town.

[Shinobi]

Haha, I just remember aphix's anti-House avatar.

I bet he's frothing at the mouth atm.

[Shinobi]

Haha, I just remembered aphix's anti-House avatar.

I bet he's frothing at the mouth atm.

Ebwop.

Apparently I can no longer words.

[Shinobi]

This is the most annoying conversation ever.

[Shinobi]

No, because you're spewing nothing but meaningless rhetoric.

It's annoying.

[Shinobi]

Find and lynch scum, same as every other time I roll town.

Your "plan" revolves around lynching two people without regards to their alignment. If House and I are both town, then we end up losing. That's why I don't like your thought process - everything you're saying is inconsequential for you because "one of us could be scum."

[Shinobi]

And what makes you so sure?

[Shinobi]

And what makes you so sure?

Because ER is Town. Aneninen is Town. I am Town. Do the math.

Why are those people town?

Just saying they're town doesn't mean they're town. Just saying that you PoE the both of us doesn't automatically make one of us scum either.

[Shinobi]

Fuck Mala, I thought we just lynched someone and I was ready to flip out.

[Shinobi]

So Anen and ER are town because they voted scum and nothing else?

[Shinobi]

I'm around.

Doing stuff atm. I'll do more things later tonight unless something comes up.

[Shinobi]

wat

[Shinobi]

The complete lack of reasoning here is really bothering me.

There's no way both of you can be mafia.

[Shinobi]

I still don't see why Anen is so town either.

[Shinobi]

Meh, if I've gotta vote to save myself then so be it.

VOTE: Klingon

Self preservation. Don't hate.

[Shinobi]

I really hate this game.

[Shinobi]

The complete lack of reasoning here is really bothering me.

There's no way both of you can be mafia.

I still don't see why Anen is so town either.

Meh, if I've gotta vote to save myself then so be it.

VOTE: Klingon

Self preservation. Don't hate.

I really hate this game.

I do believe Shinobi's our Scum.

Moron.

[Shinobi]

"Here are a bunch of posts.

He is mafia.

Here is why:"

10/10

[Shinobi]

I always step up when under threat of being lynched.

If you've got questions/things that need to be answered, then get to it. Don't just sit there and call me mafia because of stupid shit. Let's go.

[Shinobi]

And House continues to not know how to play mafia.

Wonderful.

[Shinobi]

Meh, if I've gotta vote to save myself then so be it.

VOTE: Klingon

Self preservation. Don't hate.

Self preservation = survivalist mindset = scum.

I have no questions, but tyvm for offering to feed me lies & misdirection.

Shinobi having no interest in finding scum and casting a vote to save his own ass is a huge scum tell.

If I'm town,

every single other player in the game has a better chance of flipping scum then I do.

How are you not wrapping your brain around this?

[Shinobi]

sdddfffddddssssssss

[Shinobi]

You magnificent bastard.

[Shinobi]

Frenemies 5ever.

[Shinobi]

Yeah. Nobody votes when lylo most likely starts. I don't really have strong reasons to believe that was a correct lynch.

(Also apologies to Klingon for being a dick. =/ )

[Shinobi]

Why did you hammer Klingon, btw? Just on the off-chance that you hit the scum that was apparently in the three of us or what?

[Shinobi]

Why did you hammer Klingon, btw? Just on the off-chance that you hit the scum that was apparently in the three of us or what?

I was simply applying her own logic to her.

Scum had to be you or Klingon, because I know it's not me.

If logic is good for one, it's good for all.

There is no set knowledge that the the last mafia is hidden in the three of us. Stop thinking like this right now.

Unless the mod comes in and says that Aneninen/ER are mod-confirmed town, then you need to cut this line of thinking right now.

No you can't, House.

How long has he suspected me? Do you forget that he made 2 posts - only 2 posts about who he kinda-sorta suspected - Aneninen? Aneninen that is no way Scum, I proved it.

Now Shinobi's OMGUSing me.

It's him.

Fucking sheep me now, people.

You died, lol.

[Shinobi]

If Shinobi were scum, he'd be doing a victory dance right now.

I think this qualifies:

You magnificent bastard.

I believe that post went completely over your head.

[Shinobi]

I always step up when under threat of being lynched.

If you've got questions/things that need to be answered, then get to it. Don't just sit there and call me mafia because of stupid shit. Let's go.

[Shinobi]

If we were having this conversation without you throwing your naked vote down, this probably would have been avoided.

[Shinobi]

@Klingon: I read your posts. They weren't well reasoned enough to the point where hopping on a bandwagon with one of your top scumreads was a thing I could just up and ignore. You forced me into a position where I had to vote to protect myself and the guy you voted with took advantage of it.

@House - tomorrow is lylo. If you are town, do not be a fucking idiot and tunnel me for the awful reasons you've been giving me this game.

[Shinobi]

@Shinobi: I suggest you kill me tonight so you don't have to worry about it, then.

If you're insistent on tunneling me, then I'm dropping my vote on you as soon as day breaks.

Better pray that the third that isn't left isn't scum.

[Shinobi]

@Shinobi: I suggest you kill me tonight so you don't have to worry about it, then.

If you're insistent on tunneling me, then I'm dropping my vote on you as soon as day breaks.

Better pray that the third that is left isn't scum.

Ebwop.

[Shinobi]

@Anen: Through a series of hilarious shenanigans we have lynched Klingon.

You'll have time during the night sequence.

[Shinobi]

Somebody else is town too, but I'm not telling until tomorrow.

I'm just going to vote you when day starts.

See you later.

[Shinobi]

Somebody else is town too, but I'm not telling until tomorrow.

I'm just going to vote you when day starts.

See you later.

On second thought, I might rescind this.

I'm going to withhold my thoughts for now.

[Shinobi]

Nah I changed my mind again.

House, you need to stop playing games or die. I'm fed up with your bullshit.

[Shinobi]

Awesome.

Yes.

Good talk.

[Shinobi]

Not authorized to read Dead PT.

Love how mafia realized how hard House/Klingon were shitting the bed though.

[Shinobi]

Not authorized to read Dead PT.

Love how mafia realized how hard House/Klingon were shitting the bed though.

You sank it with your last game post. That belligerence didn't look at all town.

You were insistent on tunneling me for no reason you fucking moron. You never even let me post.

[Shinobi]

*sigh*

This is why you don't hipvote on lylo.

[Shinobi]

Anen didn't even have a hand in any of the mislynches. This loss was a result of arrogant townies who don't know what they're talking about lynching into themselves for nothing.

[Shinobi]

Meh, nothing of importance really.

I want tunneling you at twilight, I was fishing for the NK.

I fail to see what this would have accomplished, even.

[Shinobi]

Meh, well played mafia. I tried to get reasoning as to why people read Anen as town but never really got an answer. This wound up having rather disastrous results.

Too bad House fucked everything up. Oh well.

[Shinobi]

I didn't even post you fucking idiot.

Do me a favor and don't sign up for another game with me again if you're just going to play like shit.

[Shinobi]

It fucking infuriates me that you shit the bed this hard and

still

have the nerve to blame me for not being able to defend myself because you yolo voted.

[Shinobi]

You yolo voted me on lylo without giving me the opportunity to defend myself. Acting like you knew for a fact that I was going to do anything despite not even posting the day after is ridiculous.

[Shinobi]

I don't even know why I'm arguing with you. I don't like you and I'm just going to avoid you like the plague in the future, and I know you're not going to listen to me anyway since you won't even acknowledge the fact that you fucked up.

Whatever.

[Shinobi]

No I didn't. I said I wanted you to stop fucking around and doing crazy shit.

'Lo and behold, you did some crazy shit and we lost.

[Shinobi]

It blows my mind that you think I even have a reason to lie to you about my posting at this point. I gave you my intent, so if you want to believe what's obviously wrong then go ahead.

Not like I'm ever playing with you again after this anyway.

[Shinobi]

You're right. I'm missing my own point that I made.

Genius.