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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:01 am

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Hi everyone
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Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:26 am

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Any no lynches give the town a mathematical disadvantage, bad idea
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Post Post #13 (isolation #2) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:39 am

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Fun fact here believe it or not I have a racer ouroborus
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Post Post #27 (isolation #3) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:48 pm

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Tmw you believe Titus is the IC too

Where's shadow then
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Post Post #45 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:29 am

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A game without Titus is a better game
VOTE: Titus
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Post Post #48 (isolation #5) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:35 am

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Titus is at L-1 so we don't want to lynch the slot right now because we should get a good feel on the other players and possibly get some assosicative reads.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #6) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:48 am

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It's a shame our IC is mislead this game
So I will step in to win this game for the town of serpents!!
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Post Post #56 (isolation #7) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:53 am

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Autumn where you at, we need youuu
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Post Post #58 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:45 am

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I love gaining information, because it cannot be taken away from me
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Post Post #60 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:36 am

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Looks like you're trying to get the easy wagon because you know you can in a newbie game
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Post Post #70 (isolation #10) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:16 pm

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Just because arona doesn't want to listen to your foolishness doesn't make him scum, lol
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Post Post #88 (isolation #11) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:43 am

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Now Titus explaining it removed all pressure lol
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Post Post #119 (isolation #12) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:57 am

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@Titus to get out of RVS you need something to happen, so I decided to create that something with my hard push, which you probably suspected when you posed this question
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Post Post #145 (isolation #13) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:42 am

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Yea that was quite opportunistic from nn30
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Post Post #148 (isolation #14) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:48 am

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That just made me laugh out loud at how terrible it is
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Post Post #149 (isolation #15) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:52 am

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VOTE: nn30
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Post Post #152 (isolation #16) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:46 pm

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Says 48 is good then goes back on it, and claims to be answering his own question which is obviously a lie
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Post Post #172 (isolation #17) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:06 pm

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When nn30 flips red we should definitely consider Titus
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Post Post #189 (isolation #18) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:57 am

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Wouldn't non flail as both alignments?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #19) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:27 pm

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In post 191, Titus wrote:
In post 189, algebra wrote:Wouldn't non flail as both alignments?
There are two types of flail. Town flail and scum flail.
How do you distinguish the two?
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Post Post #202 (isolation #20) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:43 am

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If I miss one of your questions just quote it again and bold my name
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Post Post #234 (isolation #21) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:49 pm

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@dunhallym

yes, gut.
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everyones town except nn30 and titus
im always an easy target, usually described as a "liability"

now time to pick apart nn30's iso and show how blatantly his play as newb scum is
In post 118, nn30 wrote:So here's where my thoughts are right now.
Please chime in if you agree / disagree.


Townie feeling - Dunhallym - entered the game and gave some good analysis on what was going on. This is difficult to do as scum since pretending to do analysis on who is and isn't scum is difficult when you already know the answer.
Townie feeling - Aronagrundy - more of a feeling than anything, but she seems genuine town.

Scummy feeling - Algebra - quick to go along with a lynch vote but isn't offering much in the way of reasoning.
Maybe
because he knows the people he's putting votes on aren't scum.
Scummy feeling - Titus - five pages in and he won't let go of his scum tell on me. Is it so hard to believe that a newbie would think a no lynch is good?
Scummy feeling - Morning Tweet - post 81 was the tell. Read page three up to post 81. Tweet's analysis comes out of nowhere basically. As I said above it's difficult to do analysis as scum, no?

No reads - everyone else.

Whatever happens,
I just want day one to be over. Nothing here is set in stone - I want to see if scum do before I make any concrete conclusions.
put yourself in newbscum shoes, and think: do i want to be an aggressive leader, or a passive follower? hopefully you said passive follower, because that's what nn is doing rn. ive bolded all the parts where he's indecisive/soft stance.
In post 133, nn30 wrote:@papa zito - no read because you're talking so much it blurs everything. Remember, I only have RL to compare to - and in RL the most talkative person just means they're experienced. I've been carried by a talkative townie and I've been tricked by a talkative scum as well.

@dunhallym - you're right, it was weird that I left with my vote on papa instead of on someone I felt was scummy.

VOTE: algebra

L-1 I believe.
here he admits he was scummy, and tries to get on dun's good side
In post 147, nn30 wrote:
In post 97, nn30 wrote:@shaddowez @titus why are you voting algebra? Post 48 seems legit to me - lets gather more information before we go into the night.
I ask a question.
In post 118, nn30 wrote:Scummy feeling - Algebra - quick to go along with a lynch vote but isn't offering much in the way of reasoning. Maybe because he knows the people he's putting votes on aren't scum.
I answer my own question (since nobody answered it).
In post 133, nn30 wrote:VOTE: algebra
I act on that thought.
I don't even understand this.

going to reread titus and reach into my gut and see what i get when i take my hand out
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Post Post #252 (isolation #22) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:53 am

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In post 61, Titus wrote:And your vote doesn't qualify for that because....?

Also, lol at you being a newbie when you're using terms like preflip associations.
Remember this Titus?
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Post Post #318 (isolation #23) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:05 am

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Catching up, but tbh I'm not a fan of the shadow wagon
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Post Post #367 (isolation #24) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:52 am

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All caught up, but going to be phone posting and mild v/la this weekend. Shadow looks scum with his defense and flail.VOTE: Shadow
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Post Post #382 (isolation #25) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:36 am

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Well don't you think shadows l-1 vote on me was self preservation lol
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Post Post #383 (isolation #26) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:44 am

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In post 376, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 318, algebra wrote:Catching up, but tbh I'm not a fan of the shadow wagon
In post 367, algebra wrote:All caught up, but going to be phone posting and mild v/la this weekend. Shadow looks scum with his defense and flail.VOTE: Shadow
These are algebra's last two posts.

Note that if/when algebra flips scum, Titus and nn30 are very likely not buddies.

If I'm dead tomorrow please push this slot.
Your argument is invalid, because I was catching up and there was a lot of content that I read between those two posts.
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Post Post #387 (isolation #27) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:08 am

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Yes Titus is getting away with too much which I will get to when I can and at a pc
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Post Post #388 (isolation #28) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:10 am

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In post 385, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 383, algebra wrote:Your argument is invalid, because I was catching up and there was a lot of content that I read between those two posts.
Ok, specifically what content made you go from "never mentioning shadow in this game ever" to "let's lynch this guy despite the fact he's actively discussing things."
Your misrepresenting me, shadow was a scumlean in 318
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Post Post #389 (isolation #29) » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:10 am

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Post Post #403 (isolation #30) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:21 pm

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Self preservation is nai. I'd rather lynch someone who has a chance of being scum then get a conf town lynched.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:54 am

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I'd take a scumlean over a town with a couple days left any day
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Post Post #408 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:37 am

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His play started going downhill 284 forward
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Post Post #412 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:19 pm

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In post 409, Empoof wrote:
In post 408, algebra wrote:His play started going downhill 284 forward
Weren't you not a fan of the shadow wagon in 318?
I was catching up at that point.
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Post Post #425 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:42 am

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@Empoof I could explain in more detail when I get on a pc, but I was just going to originally say that I was catching up, but I saw the pagetop VC and saw that shadow was L-1.
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Post Post #482 (isolation #35) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:02 am

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Prod received, still gonna be v/la for a couple more days though. Papa looks pretty bad rn
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Post Post #506 (isolation #36) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:00 am

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Yup I'm back in town I'm planning to go the library either today or tomorrow
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Post Post #525 (isolation #37) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:53 am

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In post 443, Dunhallym wrote:
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In post 425, algebra wrote:@Empoof I could explain in more detail when I get on a pc, but I was just going to originally say that I was catching up, but I saw the pagetop VC and saw that shadow was L-1.
There are a lot of things you' ll need to do when you get to a PC. You also have to give us your "case" on Titus as you have failed to do thus far.
And a few more questions: I agree with you that self preservation is NAI. However, you didn't really have a reason to rush. nn30 had said he would hammer Shaddowez, while nobody from the Shaddow mob had said they would switch to you and you wouldn't have been lynched without being requested to role claim. You said you'd be mild V/LA but you kept posting for some time after the hammer. In addition, IIRC when you hammered the discussion was coming back to Titus, whom you have repeatedly named as one of your prime suspects even if you didn't really back it up. So why did you rush into hammering Shaddowez at this precise time?
just in case shadow's scumbuddy would vote me
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Post Post #543 (isolation #38) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:40 pm

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Sorry was busy in other places onsite but I'll write up a reads list by tomorrow night
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Post Post #561 (isolation #39) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:46 pm

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Darn, good game!

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