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Okay Toto isn't a newbie and I don't want to prolong this for obvious reasons anyway. I'm sorry for overreacting.
FF, we both know that there's no way that Toto is scum doing what he was doing. I also have no intention of getting lynched in this game. The slot's replaced, can we call a truce and lynch scum?
JackChaos, no. It's not over the top. I've seen people get a million times more riled up than anyone in this game has approached being. People can go really ham when they believe in reads.
Fykus, your argument is that my slot is scum because he was raging like a lunatic. Do you think that town who actually believes in and has to push something or scum who has the game at a distance and is able to play to their wincon by reorienting their push or frankly doing just about anything is more likely to get sufficiently riled up to rage like a lunatic? AtE to that extent is seen as a towntell in the current meta for good reason.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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As for the people voting Fykus, he MIGHT be scum but he's far from the most likely person to flip scum today.
MooginSoosy was talking a lot during the entire debacle but was never pushing on Fykus. She was mostly just sitting there, reiterating her one point, and repeatedly asking people to clarify things with no follow up.
That is active lurking of the worst kind and is scummy as hell.
Also, I really loathe her 278. It feels like she was just being a noncommital scumfuck and putting them all as scumreads while she waited for there to be a clear lynch wagon.
Yes- she eventually came over to 'townreading' my slot: HOWEVER she did so as crowd mentality started to swing against me. It feels to me like she was just following the wave of reads and sticking to a Fykus mislynch.
What purpose does this post serve? Does the phrasing of it look like she's genuinely trying to parse it or does it look like she's making a show of 'LOOK HOW GOOD OF A TOWNIE I AM!'Why would someone who is scum be over the top though? That's just drawing attention to themselves. I thought it was suspicious at first as well. The more I thought about it, the more I thought it would be less likely for a scum to be going after someone in the way Toto was. I guess it doesn't really matter anymore since Toto wants to be replaced...
Further, why does it not really matter anymore? We're the same slot, same alignment.
Also her most recent claimed inconsistency of Fykus's really doesn't make sense.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Why?In post 408, Fykus wrote:For now yes.
This + the complete absence of any reasons for his vote in his ISO is making me feel bad about the slot. Feels like he might be opportunistic scum who is hoping my lynch still goes through.
I wasn't sure I bought the 'raving like a lunatic' excuse the first time but him just leaving that vote down with no reasoning feels really shitty.
I am going to put this back down.
VOTE: Fykus2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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First impression was that I thought it was more likely to come from town.In post 411, TierShift wrote:What do you think about that VT claim fykus made RC?
It's a newbie game and I don't want to teach Fykus that his current play is acceptable by not voting him for it. He needs to be forced to produce real content.In post 416, TierShift wrote:RC your post on moogin was good don't get distracted now
VOTE: moogin
Can people who townread me please sheep tyvm2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I don't know maybe it's someone who got pissy that he wasn't getting anywhere with town and quit because of it?In post 440, Fykus wrote:
Toto was acting scummy as fuck, fish and others called him out on it and he almost gets lynched. Then I think Moogin asked me why my vote was still on him after a few people jumped off and I explained my reasons for that. Then in the next post he just up and ragequits. Like, if thats not Toto admitting he fucked up trying to pretend hes not scum then I dont know what is.In post 409, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Why?In post 408, Fykus wrote:For now yes.
This + the complete absence of any reasons for his vote in his ISO is making me feel bad about the slot. Feels like he might be opportunistic scum who is hoping my lynch still goes through.
I wasn't sure I bought the 'raving like a lunatic' excuse the first time but him just leaving that vote down with no reasoning feels really shitty.
I am going to put this back down.
VOTE: Fykus
YOU ARE A VIABLE LYNCH WAGON. YOU ARE IN FACT MORE LIKELY TO GET LYNCHED TODAY THEN TOTO WAS. WHY WOULD HE REPLACE OUTNOW?
Alright this is what I was looking for. THIS is scum.In post 439, JackChaos wrote:This game is really exciting but I'm not sure I'm doing it right. It seems like you guys just make up bullshit then argue about it to see who cracks. I'm sure there's an actual strategy to it but I've never been much of a politician type so forgive me for floundering.
Here, I'll try.
RadiantCowbells what else would you say here? I mean you wouldn't come into the game and be like "oh ya guys woo I'm scum." You popped in and insulted the town and then was adamant about the slot not being scummy at all. Attack the people and make them doubt themselves and they'll never suspect you, right?
Nope.
You're scum. That slot is poison and you know it. You're drenched in it and the way I see it, either that slot drags you down now or it drags one of us down at night.
VOTE: JackChaos2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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We'll see whether or not and how he votes ScumChaos.In post 435, nydushermain wrote:
What's your read on him?In post 431, RadiantCowbells wrote:Uh that's complete fucking garbage. Why WOULDN'T scum!TS white knight my slot?2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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No, I am Kuribo.
YOU THINK YOU CAN FUCKING VOTE ME R O T F L M A O
OK LET'S GET THIS STRAIGHT FORMERFISH
YOU _ARE NOT_ LYNCHING ME. I HAVE NOT BEEN LYNCHED AS TOWN IN 10 YEARS ON THIS SITE.
IF YOU CONTINUE TRYING I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK WHAT PR YOU CLAIM TO BE I WILL FUCKING POWERLYNCH YOU KIDDO. YOU WILL BE FUCKING DEAD BEFORE YOU CAN FULLCLAIM.
GET THE FUCK OFF OR I WILL FUCKING RUIN YOU.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Actually I'm Frozen Angel.
You are voting me!??!?!
GET OUT OF HERE!
and yes your vote on me is really nothing more than a omgus - and a really shitty one
Your rage screams bruised ego to me :/2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Actually I'm Mastin2.
And frankly, I think the fact that there's even a wagon on me is rather silly.
And don't get me wrong. I understand it.
Like, Toto played very anti-town. His decisions were terrible and he worked against town win condition.
BUT.
That is not the same as being scum.
In fact it's rather obvious to me and was rather obvious before I replaced in that there is no way Toto would play like this as scum.
I mean think about it. Toto is not some scum mastermind who planned this whole thing like you are claiming to believe.
Now if it was, say, RadiantCowbells who went crazy trying to lynch someone who softed PR then claimed their soft publicly- then yes, you have a case. Because he WOULD do something like that.
Toto has 6 months on this site and is clearly not an alt. A cursory examination of his meta doesn't show him being any sort of scum mastermind who abuses belligerency to get townread.
I think it is (or should be) pretty obvious to everyone experienced and with their head on straight that my slot is town.
I understand that your frustration with my predecessor's play is preventing you from seeing the game clearly and I empathize but it is not towards my wincondition to let you lynch me.
I will continue attempting to lynch scum, thank you.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In hindsight I reparsed what Chaos said and it being deliberately blown out of proportion as opposed to scum posturing steals the strength of my scumread on it.
UNVOTE:
I originally townread Nydus but there's been some really weird shit that came out of his mouth on the last few pages and I want a chance to reread it.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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VOTE: FykusIn post 440, Fykus wrote:
Toto was acting scummy as fuck, fish and others called him out on it and he almost gets lynched. Then I think Moogin asked me why my vote was still on him after a few people jumped off and I explained my reasons for that. Then in the next post he just up and ragequits. Like, if thats not Toto admitting he fucked up trying to pretend hes not scum then I dont know what is.In post 409, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Why?In post 408, Fykus wrote:For now yes.
This + the complete absence of any reasons for his vote in his ISO is making me feel bad about the slot. Feels like he might be opportunistic scum who is hoping my lynch still goes through.
I wasn't sure I bought the 'raving like a lunatic' excuse the first time but him just leaving that vote down with no reasoning feels really shitty.
I am going to put this back down.
VOTE: Fykus
Yeah, good with this vote. Literally all he did is say that I was acting scummy as fuck without saying a word as to why and citing other's reasons then says I'm scum because Toto RQ ???
I mean no shit Toto RQ but why would Scum!Toto RQ when momentum against them was failing hard. There's zero content to this post.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I had the same initial reaction to JackChaos but it was intended as a joke? which steals the bite of my scumread on that slot.
JackChaos why do you think that I'm scum?
Also yes my slot is obvtown and I say that as the poster child of hyper aggressive scum play making scum intent. Toto could not and would not have pulled that off as scum and it shouldn't take a genius to figure that out.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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See that entire read feels off to me. I ask you again: why do you think that TS wouldabsolutelynot have white knighted my slot? In fact it seems like a perfect slot to white knight.
The whole debacle provokes different enough reactions among different people that there's virtually no chance that he gets called out for having townread my slot and it's not like he made a massive effort to derail my slot's lynch.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I feel like Nydus might be chainsawing the fuck out of the Moogin slot but I liked one of Moogin's response.
But jesus that 'YOU'RE JUST RANDOMLY VOTING BETWEEN THE TWO... EXPLAIN' quote was super, super scummy and out of left field.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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This makes the post sounds like a joke. I want to get a response from him before I do anything.This game is really exciting but I'm not sure I'm doing it right. It seems like you guys just make up bullshit then argue about it to see who cracks. I'm sure there's an actual strategy to it but I've never been much of a politician type so forgive me for floundering.
Here, I'll try.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I eman I don't super townread TierShift but that seemed reasonable enough. If he suddenly has my support on Moogin and I threw a lot of fuel on that fire I can see why he would revote her.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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First of all: I was parodying another user's posting style. You notice how I said that I was Kuribo before I made that wall? That's because I was emulating another user.In post 502, JackChaos wrote:In post 484, RadiantCowbells wrote:I had the same initial reaction to JackChaos but it was intended as a joke? which steals the bite of my scumread on that slot.
JackChaos why do you think that I'm scum?
Also yes my slot is obvtown and I say that as the poster child of hyper aggressive scum play making scum intent. Toto could not and would not have pulled that off as scum and it shouldn't take a genius to figure that out.
I think you're scum mostly because of how the other guy played you. I wasn't sure until your giant meltdown about playing this game 10 years and not wanting to be lynched as a townie and threatening to powerlynch fish, whatever that means.
Now I'm not sure you're scum but Im a bit concerned that, holy shit, you take this game super serious. Maybe it's the newbie in me but that sort of makes me want to lynch you more. No offense man.
Second of all, if you want to lynch me for taking this game too seriously you can do so but don't expect for anyone to take you seriously if you're not going to play the game.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Actually I do (did?) expect everyone in the game to realize my slot was town but I obviously adjusted those expectations when I was still getting tunnelled.
Iknew my slot was obviously town and can demonstrate that in postgame. I think it's pretty silly that my slot was even in contention for a wagon tbh.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Actually I do (did?) expect everyone in the game to realize my slot was town but I obviously adjusted those expectations when I was still getting tunnelled.
Iknew my slot was obviously town and can demonstrate that in postgame. I think it's pretty silly that my slot was even in contention for a wagon tbh.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I mean, I guess. I also thought Toto's progression made a ton of sense and if FormerFish hadn't claimed PR I might be voting there tbh.
Why are you townreading Moogin so hard? Why the Fykus vote of all the slots you can vote?2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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He's saying that he thought my predecessor was obvtown and you're trying to agree with him.In post 579, JackChaos wrote:
Truth. I don't hate you RC, I just don't trust Toto.In post 573, -Grey- wrote:
Relax, it started with Toto. Not you.In post 572, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm somewhat uncomfortable with how hard Grey is townreading me since that doesn't seem like something that happens.
I was on the same wavelength with him and he was my strongest townread all the way.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Yeahhhhhhhh okay my philosophy at this point is there's too many people doing terrible and anti-town shit and hiding behind 'oh I'm a newbie.'
It's time to start clearing out that crowd of people.
I'm deciding if I'd rather vote Fykus or JackChaos.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Why the fuck would that clear RC what is this bullshitIn post 889, -Grey- wrote:
Wrong.In post 888, Fykus wrote:Im beginning to suspect a moogs/rc scumship. Ill post properly in an hour when i get home from work.
If RC was scum with Moogs, he had zero incentive to derail the Lynch on Jack.
The ONLY way RC is scum is if Jack is his partner. A Jack town flip also clears RC and scum wouldn't want that if Jack is town.
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I would derail a wagon on whoever I wanted. If I was scum with literally anyone else in the game I would not be picky about doing so and I would easily do something like that purely on a whim.
Further, I don't see why you would think that I explicitly intended to derail the lynch: do you think I could have planned for that scummy as fuck reaction?2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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