[Game Over] Newbie 1784 - Escape Room

[Aristophanes]

Hello all!
I'm at work atm but will be here asap

[Aristophanes]

I wonder if Ari is gonna come play.

pedit rude why?

Of course!! Long work day and some shitty weather meant I got here late!
How are you nancy?

tbh ari's scumgame is probably better then mine.

<3
I don't know that this is true, but I'll take the compliment!

Ari Noodle refused to cooperate (surprise) so you're next on guessing my reads!

Guess your reads? I assume this is a game and that I should Iso you to figure it out.
Noodle, why don't you want to participate in this?

So, here's where I'm currently at: Definitely town: Alisae. Probably town: Srceenplay, TesXX. I'm going to look over StealthyNoodle and WhyMafia again and hopefully Aristophanes will have caught up by then.

Now, when you say "caught up," what do you mean exactly? Because I'm

not

reading 100 pages upon replacement! I wouldn't do that in any game!

I've been scumreading Chronicle/Ari for most of the game. But after you tracked him, I find it unlikely that he suspected nancy for being doc,

while

assuming he'd be the next target for your track at the same time, thus doing a nokill gambit. It just sounds way more likely that scum believed nancy's BP claim and went for your kill.

I'm still pretty dead set on WhyMafia.

I also feel like TesXX could be scum (But you ppl keep saying he's probs town? Care to explain/link?)

What's this about a track? I'm intrigued!
Also, by nancy's reply to this, I take it you never stated the scumread on me? Why is that if you have believed it all game?

[Aristophanes]

Now, when you say "caught up," what do you mean exactly? Because I'm not reading 100 pages upon replacement! I wouldn't do that in any game!

Why would you replace in to a game you had no intention of reading?

Uhh, I plan on reading some Isos as required, checking VCs and deaths from the initial page, assessing the situation at hand, and sorting people via said Isos and PoE, as well as by interactions.

Why would I read 100 pages when it is unnecessary?

Hooooly ninjas!
I'll see what else is up

[Aristophanes]

I wonder if Ari is gonna come play.

pedit rude why?

Of course!! Long work day and some shitty weather meant I got here late!
How are you nancy?

I am wonderful!!!! Also I just nabbed the last scum which makes me even happier! I'm glad you could be here for the victory lap!!
How are you?

tbh ari's scumgame is probably better then mine.

<3
I don't know that this is true, but I'll take the compliment!

Am not familiar with your scumgame but Aslan is not quite aware of how good their scumgame is. It's good.

I don't remember if I've seen Alisae's scumgame...but I believe you when you say it's good!
And I'm doing well! very excited for the victory lap of justice!

nancy, I played with scum!ari in a matrix6 NO FLIP game hosted by FA.
He had me pocketted so fucking easily. I never figured out he was scum till like, LyLo.

I forgot about that game tbh! Fun times
It's an outlier to my scumgame history though, just fyi.

Proof? The entire benefit of replacing in as town is that you get to read the previous happenings of the game from an unbiased perspective.

Yeah, and have new interactions without bias, and can read Isos unbiased, etc. It's not really that big a deal man!

Noodle, why don't you want to participate in this?

Read on, and you'll find the answers you seek

What's this about a track? I'm intrigued!

You were "cleared" tonight. Some of us assumed a tracker-kill, but it was likely stopped by doc. You were tracked by our tracker, and it led nowhere. You could be innocent, or you could've decided on a nokill gambit.

Also, by nancy's reply to this, I take it you never stated the scumread on me?
Why is that if you have believed it all game?

nancy's response made little to no sense. If you're curious about

how

wrong she was, I'll encourage you to go through my ISO and make your own conclusion.

I'll do a bit of reading.

Oh cool, that tracker is correct, I can guarantee that!

I shall also take you up on that Iso request

[Aristophanes]

^I'm pretty certain this would be against the rules. He linked it, but it got removed.

No it isn't. It got removed because he talked about an ongoing game. I'm not asking for game links unless they are completed. Just the name of the forum and his username there.

^ This!

Never discuss an ongoing game, no matter where it's taking place!

[Aristophanes]

Sheep me please.

I'll do that soon, don't worry

nancy, how on earth do you have over 800 posts in this game?!?!?

That's impressive shit!

[Aristophanes]

Trying to guess nancy's reads is hard.

I think I've figured out her scumread

[Aristophanes]

I don't remember if I've seen Alisae's scumgame...but I believe you when you say it's good!

White Flag. Remember, the game where I was with Frog?

Oh yeah!
You played a great game there!!

[Aristophanes]

OMG ARI I JUST NOTICED THE BOWTIE

Fantastic, eh!
It's the wedding of McMenno and Annadog40!
I think I might keep it tho

Ari is one classy boy.

/me comforts TesXX.

Aw thanks yo!

[Aristophanes]

In our spare time, Ari and I mull over lesbian-centric reinterpretations of literature in antiquity. We've yet to get to Horace.

I can confirm this to be true!

Horace, eh?
I may need to do some primary readings first though, I've never dabbled in Horace!

[Aristophanes]

Lysistrata was my favorite, fwiw. But that should go without saying.

Lysistrata is fantastic!!

Thesmophoriazusai is one of my faves though

[Aristophanes]

Well, he isn't a lesbian, if that's what you're wondering

That would be quite the twist!!!

[Aristophanes]

Thesmophoriazusae*

I can't believe I slaughtered a Greek ending like that!

[Aristophanes]

YES THESMOPHORIAZUSAE HOW COULD I FORGET!!!! Weeee

Fear not, Aristophanes, the gods will forgive you for your minor typographical trangression.

Thank The Gods! =D

[Aristophanes]

Tes I am going to go take a long, warm shower. When I get back I want to see my readslist waiting for me!

nancy's reads:

Town
nancy
WhyMafia
Blackvoid
TesXX
Ari
Screenplay
Alisae
Noodle
Scum

However, I have yet to find who claimed the Track or how we know it's the Doctor setup, so that's missing info that'd help a lot prolly...

[Aristophanes]

How'd I do nancy?

[Aristophanes]

Wow, I see BV is Tracker now, so bump him up a spot in mine. Also, I see there was no NK, which went over my head earlier, so I get why a Doc setup is suspected having had the Tracker in the open already. They should obviously be the protected one again if the Doc can.

It's also possible scum shot elsewhere and hit a BP, but that seems far less likely!

[Aristophanes]

Actually, let's just redo this. I forgot about easy shit like my slot being more likely to be clear too.

nancy's reads:

Town
nancy
BlackVoid
Ari
WhyMafia
TesXX
Screenplay
Alisae
Noodle
Scum

Fixed (a bit)

[Aristophanes]

You can keep obvious stuff to yourself.
Makes me want to winfom you.

I like, just got here man! May be obvious to the rest of you, but I'm coming into the info fresh.

Wine me if you like, but there's really no need

[Aristophanes]

See what I mean. That is wrong fake or lazy.
GN

I might be wrong, I'm definitely a little lazy, but I'm not fake

Sleep well though!

[Aristophanes]

You saying he knew she was doc before n1?

Who is the Doc?

I'm saying nothing about D1 suspicions because I haven't read it other than to see the claim.
I don't know where you're getting this from...

[Aristophanes]

How'd I do nancy?

You did beautifully!

Woohoo! =D

[Aristophanes]

I knew nancy was the doctor
I'm so clever aren't i

Oh! Ahaha!

Fantastic!

[Aristophanes]

I forgot about easy shit like my slot being more likely to be clear too.

What're you referring to?

I mean that my slot being tracked means there is a smaller chance of me being scum to you all, meaning I should be higher in the list. I realize there was no kill, so a nokill gambit if totally possible, but I don't think that is likely, so I am taking it into account now but I didn't in the first list.

[Aristophanes]

He didn't bring up that idea till D2.

Are you saying he only figured it out after he tried to kill me N1 and it failed?

Yep

Plausible

[Aristophanes]

Damn! My first list was way closer!
I should have stayed with it!

Woohoo! Virtual Autowin!
We'll get there easily enough

[Aristophanes]

That was indeed fun!

Alisae, I have no clue. I'll actually read you soon though, promise <3

[Aristophanes]

I spilled milk on my keyboard this morning and now my ↑ key is broken

Don't get too Down about it! It may be a Up key battle, but I'm sure you can find away around it! Maybe in an ancient Scroll?

[Aristophanes]

Reading up from the keyboard thing. Posted that as a reference point for myself!
Alisae trying to rally the town like she has read very towny to me.

[Aristophanes]

You could also wait for Aristophanes to get replaced instead of lynching him over an actual scumread of yours.

Ari is not getting replaced....

I'm not getting replaced! Lol

Been busy, but I'm here now

Honestly, I got home from work and passed out for, like, 3 hours today.
Feeling good now though!

[Aristophanes]

Honestly, I got home from work and passed out for, like, 3 hours today.
Feeling good now though!

Ouchies! :/

Yeah, and I have 10 more hours to work tomorrow and 8 Sunday!

I'm sure I'll survive tho

[Aristophanes]

Re: pages 106 and 107, Imma have to ISO the sum slot, aren't I.

And Alisae, I'll get to my obvtown self and we can bounce reads like the champs we are!
If we get you, me, nancy, and BV together this game will solve itself!

[Aristophanes]

I'm sleepy zzz.

Naptime?

Or more likely, sleeptime!

[Aristophanes]

yeah ik but BV is being a meanie ;~;

Well as you said so aptly, if the town can't work together well end up losing, even with this Aden!

We all need to come together to figure it out!

[Aristophanes]

Ari what are your thoughts on Noodle?

Will Is there soon

[Aristophanes]

Iso*
Fucking Iso
Iso Iso Iso!

Maybe my phone will finally pick up on this!

[Aristophanes]

I still have 3 or 4 pages left to read, but I gotta say. The fact that some of you are so easily persuaded by nancy's shit-reads saddens me.
Not a single one of you went back to look into her reason for voting me, and check whether she was right or wrong.
@Alisae You're just appearing more and more scummy from licking nancy's boots. Just like Chronicle did at one point.

I'll respond to your post about me later BlackVoid. For now, thanks for actually acknowledging my wallpost-read(your pretty much the only one who did); I truly appreciate it.
Also, regarding whether I played before: No - This is my first game except for playing in Meat World.

Edit*

Niiiice Ad Hom man!

[Aristophanes]

narcy

Y U do dis?

[Aristophanes]

It's the exact opposite? He's been acting like this several times now. "Lynch me, I don't care". If he was town, he'd likely realize we're not in autowin, and not "give up" that easily.
Thanks for kind words though, WhyMafia.

We're fairly close to it. Plus I kinda lost motivation for this game, I made way too many mistakes and Idk how to rectify them at this point in the game.

Lol you claiming scum dude?

Doesnt read as a scumclaim to me, just demotivated. It happens to all alignments at times.

[Aristophanes]

But was Screenplay?

It's the exact opposite? He's been acting like this several times now. "Lynch me, I don't care". If he was town, he'd likely realize we're not in autowin, and not "give up" that easily.
Thanks for kind words though, WhyMafia.

We're fairly close to it. Plus I kinda lost motivation for this game, I made way too many mistakes and Idk how to rectify them at this point in the game.

Scum claim

[Aristophanes]

If Ari continues to lurk like a scum!Ari then I would be willing to lynch there. Otherwise I cannot see a town!Noodle world.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=71318

You wouldn't know this, but it can be in certain cases. Myself for instance!
As scum, I find it very hard to scumhunt and make genuine looking content. So as town, I ask questions, interact, and basically do shit actively!
As scum, I tend to lurk very hard and get caught for it a lot. I do this as town when I get busy, but the difference is active lurking (as scum) vs not reading/not having time (as town). It's tough to discern those two, so it's not a perfect system for reading me, but activity can, in fact, be AI if the player's meta says so!

And yes, I'm acknowledging my own meta, which is something many players see as negating that meta (because once aware of it, one can manipulate it). However, I have struggled to do so many, many times in the past, making it reliable despite my acknowledgment of it!

[Aristophanes]

Nah but he's Srceenplay.

lol truee

[Aristophanes]

Just wanted to ask why you were being so antagonistic towards nancy. That doesn't seem much better than Alisae randomly going off on me. I'm reading you as town and would like that read to be right so I can narrow things down but I'm slightly weirded out that you agreed with pretty much everything I said and lashed out at nancy. That's in addition to agreeing with my push on WhyMafia at the beginning of D2.

Alisae is "randomly" going off on you, because she believe's she's right and you're wrong. You could probably explain to her why you think she's wrong, and she'd accept it if she sees your point.

narcy

on the other hand, is right about everything, and everyone but her is wrong. She's not interested in discussing, she's not interested in being proven wrong, she's not interested in teaching(yet she obliviously claims so).
She does love to make wild assumptions, sick exaggerations, with little to absolutely no backing. I'd seriously love to make a list for you at some point.
After experiencing this on close hold for a long time now, let it be said that it's annoying and exhausting like I can't tell you.

YOU

on the other hand, make stone-cold observations, elaborate on genuinely believable scum-thinking,

and

you consider people to be innocent as well as guilty. Maybe I give you extra cred because you're conf!town, but my devotion to your research is certainly not just buddying. More like a sigh of relief.

No one supported me when I stepped up against nancy (Well, there was Chronicle, papa bless), and after spending hours wasted(starting around 644, ending at beautiful 744), I had little motivation to ever engage with her again.
If someone else is about to experience that same seemingly effortless situation, I won't stand idly by.

Seeing nancy going all "disgust" over your investigation(like she does to everyone that doesn't approve of her ways) is one of those kinda situations.

pedit: @TesXX Probably true, and no I won't.

Ad Hom the Doctor some more why don't you!
This isn't helping you in any way, and I am very tempted to call you the final acum for trying to discredit

nancy

like this!

[Aristophanes]

Activity is not a scum tell in a vacuum, no. When a player's scum meta involves lurking, it is a scum tell.

You just said this so much better than I did!!

I'd feel really horrible if Ari replaced into a scumslot :////

Don't You worry friend, I didn't

[Aristophanes]

Activity is not a scum tell in a vacuum, no. When a player's scum meta involves lurking, it is a scum tell.

I ate a banana once when I played as serial killer.
I'm eating a banana right now.
This confirms me as serial killer.

In Ari's case this would be:
Ari always eats bananas when he is a serial killer and only when he is a serial killer - or just extremely, extremely hungry.
Ari is eating a banana right now.
Therefore he is either extremely, extremely hungry right now (exceptional case) or he is a serial killer.

This analogy is bananas!
And actually might be my favourite one ever!

I'd like to know if Noodle actually pre-wrote that post and why. Did he mention this anywhere?

Yep, and I had no intention of hiding it. I actually had several versions ready, depending on the outcome (though they were pretty similar). I also had an alarm set, so I could be the first one out.
I was certain Drixx was about to turn town (considering his post-hammer posts), and thought I had a way of proving nancy (2nd in my lynchpool after Drixx) guilty or innocent. The theory wasn't really of that much use though, considering Drixx turned scum and no one ever counterclaimed.

This bugs me more than it should...

[Aristophanes]

Okay, like, keep in mind that I haven't gone back and read the post yet.

A few things but me here. First, the prepared post idea. This is something that benefits sum more than to. It's clearly meant to push his agenda and to make his push the prominent one of the day. This isn't a town mindset, but a sum one. Secondly, the idea of having multiple versions of it depending on the results is like, WTF!? I can't see any reason to do this. You should have ideas, yes. Thoughts for how things change depending on flips. Fluid reads that are based in the games progression. But present ideas of what to say depending what happens? No. Third, the fact that he didn't adjust things once Drixx flipped sum (at least according to 2794) and that he wanted to push you regardless (once again, or so it seems), is ugly and should never happen in a town mindset!

That's why I dislike it.

[Aristophanes]

It's clearly meant to push his agenda and to make his push the prominent one of the day.

Poor guy just didn't foresee me hardclaiming Hufflepuff

Pottermore tells me I'm a Ravenclaw!

But yeah, he didn't see it coming. What if you hadn't been a PR though? He's have manufactured a push on you because he felt like it?
No es bueno!

[Aristophanes]

Pues claro que sí y estoy de acuerdo con todo lo que has dicho hombre.

Glad we're on the same page here!

My Spanish is too rough to continue legibly, but I understood you
Haven't studied it in, like, 10 years

[Aristophanes]

Ari I like the way you think I want to hear moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooore!!!!

More will come for sure!
However, I work in under 6 hours now and need to get to bed lest I fall asleep on the job!

[Aristophanes]

Oh dear lord you sound like me.

Well, birds of a feather! Amirite!

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Screenplay

[Aristophanes]

*clicks like a chicken*

[Aristophanes]

But what about my Noodle read!?
And what did you find in the Meta dive?

[Aristophanes]

Uh I've been playing all day to set us up for a guaranteed LyLo win and at a certain point it became obvious that lynching Noodle was necessary to achieve that but this is now optimal.

I didn't know you had a Noodle read?

Well, it developed in the catchup and I kinda like it th. He's obviously on the short list for scum

[Aristophanes]

Also, do you ever sleep!?

[Aristophanes]

I'd love to!

Is it....
Hmm...

Is it about reads?

[Aristophanes]

Ari if you guess this right you win the grand prize okay?

And like, I've never given the grand prize away before, ever, so that's pretty special!

Oh my! So much pressure!

It...have I finally joined the ranks of "Townread - do not lynch"??

[Aristophanes]

Close guess! But not quite!!

Damn.
No grand prize then I guess!

[Aristophanes]

Oh Ari is back online

Ari I'm sorry my dear friend

I didn't want it to be this way

/me hugs Ari

Yes this is the secret that I was keeping from you T_T

And the grand prize was a vote q.q

Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuu he went offline again ;~;

I hate killing my friends

Bruuuuutal work day!
Sorry I wasn't here!
You're hilarious though! XD

I wanna see how long this went for before you admitted it was false

[Aristophanes]

I'm just going to keep on quoting that until you stop.

Aslan I'm a Watcher and I saw you visit Loopdan last night I'm sorry.

nancy, you're actually the best! XD

BV, am I really possible scum because I haven't stated my reads?
That's weak bro.

[Aristophanes]

Aristophanes I am going to allow you to choose whether or not we lynch Aslan or Tes today who do you choose?

But I don't want either lynched!

Alisae is town imo if for nothing else than the push for town unity!

Tes I've been trusting your read on and the switch to being in your school makes no sense! I haven't really been worried about the slot, but I've seen nothing to worry about, that's why!

[Aristophanes]

I also don't agree that Src is skilled enough to know how to bus and get cred for it.

I don't know that I agree with this.

[Aristophanes]

BV, am I really possible scum because I haven't stated my reads?

I'd like you to state your reads nevertheless. You've been in the game for a bit now and you've interacted with everyone. Reads off the top of your head would be nice. After this, and WhyMafia links me to his offsite games, I'm down to lynch Alisae.

If stating my reads means you lynch Alisae, I'm not gonna state them.

[Aristophanes]

Alisae is town imo if for nothing else than the push for town unity!

Alisae has not been pushing for town unity. He's been claiming to do it while manufacturing arguments and getting mad for no reason.

Yeah, no.

[Aristophanes]

Ari how is your townread on Aslan so strong o.O

We just get each other, you know!
Like, I had the worst but feel on Siblings Quarrel when he and Fro99er hydra'd and I never followed it! We were fantastic partners as town in See Neyn Ples Ples! We nice well and I got the townfeelz this game

[Aristophanes]

But you got duped by Aslan pretty hard my friend in White Flag.

That was the game with SQ yeah?
I had a bit scum read almost all game and ignored it! They were just...off!

[Aristophanes]

He tried to get you and nancy, the two conftown, to work together!
Did you miss that?

[Aristophanes]

Oh I forgot he was a hydra that game.

All good

[Aristophanes]

I'm calling an audible.

VOTE: Srceenplay

I brought Aslan and Ari in here for a reason and neither of them are allowed to die today.

<3

[Aristophanes]

I'm being tracked when there's a no kill.
That suggests I'm a doctor

Problem is it sets a 1v1 with nancy, and there wouldn't have been few enough phases to not get lynched from it.

Honestly, had I this day kept going, I may have switched to you as a nullscum read. The consistent push for me to get tracked over you getting tracked was scummy and it was really the only thing that gave me pause in your play! The AtE was great and you pocketed me really quickly with your teamwork thing!

[Aristophanes]

The roleswap got me towncred. And that was flawless. Though I wish I knew how to communicate to you more subtlely that that was what I was going to do. Saying not to wagon you sorta makes it obvious imo.

I mean to be fair that was only something that would've ever fooled newbies

I mean, I was extremely confused! I've been playing for almost 4 years and I've never even heard of people roleswapping, nevermind doing it!
I kinda wanna read that part of the game because, like, wtf?

[Aristophanes]

Also, I've never been 5 pages behind in postgame before! Wtf XD

[Aristophanes]

nancy fakeclaimed 1-shot bp
I claimed doctor and told people not to lynch nancy.

Oh!
This clears up so much!

[Aristophanes]

nancy, thanks for bringing me into this!

[Aristophanes]

Last, but not least:
Thanks for hosting, MDS. Your storytelling-ability is seriously of another plane.

You can always Nonimate It!

[Aristophanes]

mathsturbating in your sticky notes

Best quote <3

Thanks for hosting this MDS!!

[Aristophanes]

THANK YOU ASLAN AND ARI FOR REPLACING IN YOU ARE BOTH MY FAVORITEST <333333333333333333333333333333333

Thanks so much for the invite!!!!

I wasn't here long, but I had a blastttt!!

[Aristophanes]

I did not know we had a page for records!!!

[Aristophanes]

nancy, thanks for bringing me into this!

<3

[Aristophanes]

I can't believe you pulled a perfect win yo!

That shit is fantastic!!!

[Aristophanes]

It's possibly the longest perfect TOWN win of any queue.

I can't believe you pulled a perfect win yo!

That shit is fantastic!!!

Lmao, glad I got you in to enjoy the sweet sweet fruits.

Just to be perfectly clear: I don't support conceding from either alignment ever. If I were soloscum in 6:1 with a guilty on me I would fight to the fucking death to get out of the guilty. I /do/ support AtEing your opponents into giving up if you think that is viable under the circumstances and do it appropriately (saying you're holding newbies out the queue is not very appropriate).

Agreed. Always fight right to the whistle and never assume anything until the Mod declares it!

Also, I clicked the video because Alan Rickman and then he didn't say anything </3

[Aristophanes]

Also, I clicked the video because Alan Rickman and then he didn't say anything </3

Just for you Ari <3

<3

You are legit the best nancy!! =D

[Aristophanes]

Just ftr any newbies in this game or reading this game in the future should know that fakeclaiming as Town should only be done under specific circumstances and claiming BP as Doctor was optimal at the point that I claimed it because it introduced the possibility that the NK would go to the Tracke, which is what happened. When you're fakeclaiming you have to think about the worst that could happen due to the claim and worst case scenario with my claim there was that scum didn't believe it and put the NK on me. There was no possibility of a counterclaim, the claim would not have confused setup spec, and there were generally just no downsides at all to it.

You were fun to play with nancy

Both of these are very very true!

[Aristophanes]

How is this still here xD

List Mods go through to lock old games and archive them periodically. Obviously this one hasn't been in that bunch yet!