[Game Over] Newbie 1784 - Escape Room

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VOTE: WhyMafia


Let's go with your plan nancy. It's your game. Lynch whymafia track Alisea lynch me

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Well you have a scum that is really stubborn or not completely understanding the situation.

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Tracker will give a confirmed town or scum.

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Reads list
Tes - Not certain, apart from suggesting Bp strat, he hasn't done much. Could be a gamble as he looks Town by suggesting it, but it's becoming fairly common (from what I can tell by what others said), so if he was scum, he might as well look as best as possible.
Chronicle - Neutral. Similar to Tes he defended the bp strat quite vigorously as well as the inactive. He hasn't really done anything that screams "TOWN", but seems to be trying to help find scum (pressuring others into participating with the strat that usually finds scum).
Loop - Town, didn't work against the strat and also helped pressure others. This is more of a vibe I guess
Nancy - Scum lean. Starts out with going out for an aggressive counter to the strat. Proceeds to say it won't help new players learn. However most of the new players seem to not mind using this strategy. If there's a cop, look into her please.

Pine - Not enough posts to judge with, but made a valid point

Screenplay - Neutral, slightly miffed he's pushing me, but it's my fault for missing loopdens post. I want his reads before saying anything conclusive. Idk how it's considered lurking, we all have outside lives. If I wanted to lurk, I wouldn't have replied "a few hours" in the first place. Seems to be aggressive against the new player, some of it deserved, but I don't trust him fully. Maybe I'm just biased.
Stealthy - Scum lean - I'm having trouble with quotes, so I'll refer to post numbers
79/89 - Says that he agrees with Nancy that the strat isn't good for new players, but proceeds to say by not supporting it, she has a higher possibility of scum. It seems to me that she's braver than you and posted her opinion while you just want to look good to town. You're a hypocrite. Stating that you agree with what she said, but those words make her a scum read to you makes no sense. Even tho she didn't cooperate, you should've stuck to what you believed in lol. While I don't necessarily consider her as pro town, you make her seem so much better. You could be bussing her idk.
94 - Again, you agree with her ... what makes you vs her different? That she took a more direct stance? If the majority of the players said that this strat was bad and she was the only who argued it was good, I think you wouldn't have gone along with this strategy xd

I hope what I just said made sense, it probably didn't knowing me. Anyways, go analyze this now

Pine hasn't said anything but I like what he said.

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Why are you so sure pine is town? He made only a few posts and they were simply to defend you. I'm just interested in hearing your reasoning

Throws shade at nancy for town reading pine.

I personally think pine is worth looking into -
He begins by heavily defending Nancy and proceeds to leave

In addition, I would have to say Nancy has a higher chance of scum than stealthy atm. She repeatedly appeals to my emotions, making me want to trust her. My other reasoning in on my reads list from page 8. I don't feel like repeating all of it. Just go check. That being said, I do appreciate what you said Nancy xd.

Says pine is worth looking into.

Why are you so sure pine is town? He made only a few posts and they were simply to defend you. I'm just interested in hearing your reasoning

Pine and I are friends, and I like to think I can get a pretty good read on him early on. Combination of gut and recognizing patterns.

But he only made nine posts. What patterns did you see in his posts that made you TR him?

He made four game related posts. I also fail to see how one could tell if it's a town read after so little info, even if prior friends

Again.

Not tracker

I'm kind of confused why there is a push for the lynch of pine. While it's bad to lose an active town, chances are they are vanilla townie and we can base future Lynchs off the reactions/comments of others. A pine lynch without him defending himself could cause us to lose an important town role. Not only that, we gain far less info from a pine lynch

Defensive towards pine.

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VOTE: Drixx
One down

Your vote was already on Drixx ... why were you trying to hammer?

For future reference, you should not interfere when someone is running a gambit. When someone who is already voting a wagon pretends to hammer, it is usually to check for a reaction. You pointing it out immediately took away any chance of Srceenplay getting a reaction from me in a situation where I may have believed I was lynched.

Drixx only reference to WhyMafia is a coach!?

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I would rather be lynched and have you cleared as town. It would be better for us if you are cleared.
My lynch right now is not good.
Vote WhyMafia.

If there is a nokill again no lynch until tracker gets a result.

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Like fuck, your WhyMafia Vote just screams "I am trying to survive"

Does my laziness scream try to survive?

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Nope

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I also don't think I've done anything scumy

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No. I was just catching up.
It doesn't matter. It's nothing that can't be easily lied about.

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Of course

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A hammer on me still isn't game so....
Try again.

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I would rather be lynched and have you cleared as town. It would be better for us if you are cleared.
My lynch right now is not good.
Vote WhyMafia.

If there is a nokill again no lynch until tracker gets a result.

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I'm not scum

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After game is over remind to add something to your statement nancy

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Either vote WhyMafia or me. Get this day over with and get a tracker clear. Everyone evidently wants new information.
If there is a nk again I would recommend no lynch until you get a tracker clear.

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I'll agree to disagree and leave it at that.

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Now it makes sense

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Alisea talk about me more

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Someone is not

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Let's flip someone and see

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Lynch him.
AtE all game

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I've decided it is for him

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0

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Strong

Gut

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Good. I need you to rest the defending and wake the attacking

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It wasn't funny

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So I made it revelant

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It's funny this game is called escape room

Lynch WhyMafia so we all can go home

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Saying it's not a scum post kind of makes it look like a scum post >:

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Make it fast.

nancy your back and forth votes all over the place don't help with giving people confidence on finding scum

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VOTE: Whymafia

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Missing someone

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You should vote a couple of other people first nancy. Then make people guess your read list.

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nancy read list

BV
nancy
Chronicle
SN
Srceenplay
Alisea
Tess
Whymafia

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You are needy.
The lynch pool is the last two


Pop to chronicle

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Omg

Alisea

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Tes I am going to go take a long, warm shower. When I get back I want to see my readslist waiting for me!

You don't take relaxing warm showers.
You take relaxing warm baths.

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BV I just got home.
Can you post your questions in an easy to reply post.
Might be in the morning. Just got home from a wine walk about. Good times.

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You can keep obvious stuff to yourself.
Makes me want to winfom you.

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See what I mean. That is wrong fake or lazy.
GN

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You saying he knew she was doc before n1?

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I'm trying to sleep but people keep replying. Wait 30min

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Thank you BV.
I will do that in morning 6-7 hours

GN for real now

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Just got to work. A lot to catch up from overnight. Will do it later.
I'll do this first since I said I would first thing.

@Srceenplay, here's an easy-to-respond list of questions:

1) Why did you vote Pine in 283 with the reasoning "he's not around the defend himself?" You never explained this properly.

2) Where did your scumread on Pine come from in 306 to the point where you said you would kill him?

3) Nothing about 323 makes any sense and you dodged the question when people asked you to clarify why you voted Pine.

4) Why did you suddenly move from Pine to nancy in 339 i.e. what specific reasons were you scumreading nancy for?

5) In the quoted I showed of 333 and 341, why are you fishing around asking people whether they were trying to say that Pine isn't mafia? It almost seems like you knew Pine was mafia and you were trying to make them look bad by associating them with Pine.

6) In 841, you agreed with me that doc should cc nancy. Then in 900, you say that we all agreed that doc wouldn't cc. Why did you contradict yourself?

7) How did you have so much confidence in the Drixx lynch in 1110 that you say "one down" like he's definitely flipping scum despite your only reasoning for voting him being that you were sheeping me?

My vote on Pine was just for fun and reactions. My post around Pine at the time were contradicting shows there was no seriousness to it. I said it easy to kill someone who can't defend themselves. When asked why I want it like that I said I don't. Asking someone if the think "know" if Pine is mafia is because I was looking for reactions to suspicious people.

That first nancy vote may have been a bs vote as well,iirc. Later I did in fact scum read her though. The exact reasons I can't recall unless I go back and reread.

6) I got lazy I wasn't paying attention. For the most part you post was good and that is what I was liking.

That Drixx vote was a fake hammer.

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@Srceenplay, a couple of follow up questions: 1) Were you suspicious of Pine or not? You say that your vote on Pine was for fun and reactions but then you also say that if you could kill one person, you'd kill Pine and you ask two other people why they don't suspect Pine. 2) In your 841, what exactly did you like about my post and why? And how did you later assume that we agreed that Doc shouldn't claim? I need a bit more elaboration here than "I got lazy and wasn't paying attention. 3) Can you link me to previous games of yours where you made bs votes as town?

1 any time I was on Pine was not serious. I said I would heal my self(can't do that) and kill Pine. That shows lack of seriousness. I was fishing for reactions.
2 I don't remember your post without rereading it. What I recall was it was well reasoned thought out and logical. Later I wasn't paying attention. I thought nancy was doctor though. That's why I said I would have killed that spot as scum. I even pm'd the mod at that point and said she better be the doctor.
3 this was my previous newbie game. I used no lynch for reactions. viewtopic.php?p=8857937&user_select%5B% ... 9#p8857937

I'm busy at work but have a break in about a hour.

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Caught up 10 pages.

I don't think there was a buss.
Iirc the lynch came in the final hours. I put my vote down right before I went to sleep to make sure there was enough votes for a lynch.

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Asking someone if the think "know" if Pine is mafia is because I was looking for reactions to suspicious people.

So, what you are saying is that you were suspicious of Pine and was looking to see how people reacted to you asking them if they don't suspect Pine? That doesn't make sense with your following post:

1 any time I was on Pine was not serious. I said I would heal my self(can't do that) and kill Pine. That shows lack of seriousness. I was fishing for reactions.

I still don't get it. Were you or weren't you suspicious of Pine? If you weren't serious as you say in this quote, why would you choose Pine specifically and ask people questions like whether they don't think Pine is mafia?

Trying to push Pine when he is not around was not serious. I wanted to see if anyone wanted to jump on board. If anyone stayed away. If anyone defended him. If anyone attacked me. That is what the Pine vote was about.

The people I was asking questions to(WhyMafia) were people I thought were suspicious. Wanted to sort in them scenarios

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I caught up on stuff that happened since I replaced in. nancy's moves so far have been really suboptimal if she's town. It's possible she claimed 1-shot BP as scum to bait a doc claim.

If that's the case, the doc counterclaiming at this point is actually the best idea.

Then we lynch nancy, the doc is nightkilled. Since there is no roleblocker and only one scum would be left, whoever I track tonight will be cleared. So, even if we mislynch D2 and I get killed N2, there will be a tracker clear on D3. I don't want to risk lynching nancy if she's actually a 1-shot BP and the value of keeping a doc hidden at this point isn't much higher than just counterclaiming.

If you are town, please don't fake-claim

(I don't know why this needs to be said but it's been happening so often in recent games I've played or modded in).

Agree

@Srceenplay, here is the quote in case you forgot. If you thought this was well-reasoned and logical, how can you suddenly forget about it and push the opposing viewpoint?

Like I said. I was paying attention.

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Okay, I understand the quotes about Pine now. While it's possible you are fishing for reactions on your partner, I see as null so it's not a concern.

Still don't understand your thought process behind agreeing with my post. Why would you agree with a post and think it well-reasoned and logical if you weren't paying attention to it?

I don't know. Probably because I didn't think a doc should cc. Then read your post and thought nice. Later forgot all about it. Lazy, not paying attention.

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It's the exact opposite? He's been acting like this several times now. "Lynch me, I don't care". If he was town, he'd likely realize we're not in autowin, and not "give up" that easily.
Thanks for kind words though, WhyMafia.

We're fairly close to it. Plus I kinda lost motivation for this game, I made way too many mistakes and Idk how to rectify them at this point in the game.

Scum claim

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Nah but he's Srceenplay.

lol truee

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Drink

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So ari because?

Chronicle replacing out of a dragged out unwinable game.

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Scum claim

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I think TesXX and Srceenplay are town.

I do not think Srceenplay is Town and I would lynch in {Aslan, Noodle, Srceenplay, WhyMafia}.

But like, Tes is 100% locktown therefore we are in autowin so at this point I just want to kill anyone who might be willing to vote Tes in LyLo.

pedit /me hugs Tes

I can't rule out a Tess lynch

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Alisea why would there not be a kill last night?

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Whymafia is scum

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Move on Alisea

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Therefore scum is in {Noodle, Tes, WhyMafia} and I have a guilty on one of them as it turns out that I've been hiding all day because I wanted Town to have a chance at catching them but so far they haven't.

can I add Srceen to this pool? He's also someone I would expect to have shot BV last night.

Wrong

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@Mod can we do accelerated Night from this point forwards?

Yes. Night action PMs will include instructions to finalise choice. When all choices are finalised the night will end immediately.

Use this as an ok from me to use fast nights.

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Whymafia is in everyone's scum pool. Lynch there.

I'm at Midwest wine fest. Hopefully no more posting from me tonight.

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I won't be in lylo nANCY. When WhyMafia lynch it's game over.

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I won't be in lylo nANCY. When WhyMafia lynch it's game over.

What if game is over when we lynch you instead though?

That doesn't make sense

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And gone

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@Src, switch to Alisae please. I don't think it's WhyMafia and Alisae's big towncase on WhyMafia is more likely written by scum on town than town on scum.

I don't see it. I don't think there was any reason for a buss.
The day was about to end without a lynch so why buss?

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With that you think chronicle no killed.
That is unlikely to me.

That leaves
WhyMafia
Tess
Then I would do ari

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I don't see it. I don't think there was any reason for a buss.
The day was about to end without a lynch so why buss?

That's not at all what was happening on any level whatsoever.

I put my vote down before I went to bed to make sure we had enough votes for a lynch. So, ya that is the way I see it.

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That statement makes no sense

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I'm going back to my event.

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I put my vote down before I went to bed to make sure we had enough votes for a lynch. So, ya that is the way I see it.

Between BlackVoid and I there is no way that lynch was not going through ever so no.

That's not how it was ending.

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@Src, limiting your reads to only people that didn't vote Pine is bad play. You should be considering the fact that there was no counterwagon to Pine which makes it more likely that scum bussed.

Iirc both Tess and why where posturing on chronicle

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Why don't you just lynch actual scum?
Like this guy.
VOTE: Srceenplay
Everything I said about him still sticks.

VOTE: alisea
Omgus

That's for BV

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Lol

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I'm at a wine fest. Sitting next to the beer truck. Winning all around tonight. Thanks BV

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nANCY step it up

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nancy.
I wanted to say your ate play earlier for scum to give up goes against wincon. You where advocating scum to giv up and that goes against wincon. , breakuing rules.

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Mini thanks. You are awesome. The flavor was great.

Record game and only D2!

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It would have been impossible to lynch nancy.

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Yes. It implies that there was a doc on him. That sets up a 1v1 with you and nancy. You lose that 1v1.

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nancy you are done?

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You were fun to play with nancy