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Post Post #175  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:27 am

Mine

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Post Post #176  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:30 am

I'm poking said bear by voting Gorny for being excessively defensive and weird about the Noodle thing.

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Post Post #177  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:20 am

I've had a look at Gorny's ISO, can you refer to a post that you find excessively defensive?

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Post Post #178  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:27 am

I'm just gonna let this simmer for a while.

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Post Post #179  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:50 am

So you're going to hide away and not defend yourself? That doesn't benefit you at all.

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Post Post #180  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:54 am

Defend myself from what, exactly?

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Post Post #181  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:54 am

vote: gory

That omgus bruh

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Post Post #182  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:58 am

Lol this game!

I'll be here tonight
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Post Post #183  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:42 am

Porkens, the majority of your posts are questions and it doesn't seem like you want to find scum, but rather post the odd question that might get a response from scum. I was hoping you'd prove me wrong but then you just replied with another question.

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Post Post #184  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:45 am

I also just realised that your profile picture is a pig with a literal question mark above its head so that might explain it.

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Post Post #185  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:50 pm

Porkens did you mean to misspell your vote?

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Post Post #186  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:56 pm

Man, I've been busy!
As for now, my vote is staying where it is, but I am also leaning toward Porkens being scum.

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Post Post #187  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:36 pm

In post 154, Porkens wrote:I love jokes!

Here's a readslist:
Inferno390

Aristophanes1 (SE)
Gorny (SE)


northsidegal
darrenwoodward10


Noodle
Nauci


acidphoenix (SE)

Vote: acidphoenix


I like this, so I'm going to follow it up with one of my own.

color=#0000FF]Aristophanes1 (SE)[/color]

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Post Post #188  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:38 pm

Also, I move for BP claims.

Can we have a vote on that, mod? Whether or not we should use the BP strategy?

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Post Post #189  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:32 pm

In post 183, darrenwoodward10 wrote:Porkens, the majority of your posts are questions and it doesn't seem like you want to find scum, but rather post the odd question that might get a response from scum. I was hoping you'd prove me wrong but then you just replied with another question.


Interesting post.

Anyway, please ask me anything you'd like and I will respond directly.

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Post Post #190  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:48 pm

In post 189, Porkens wrote:
In post 183, darrenwoodward10 wrote:Porkens, the majority of your posts are questions and it doesn't seem like you want to find scum, but rather post the odd question that might get a response from scum. I was hoping you'd prove me wrong but then you just replied with another question.


Interesting post.

Anyway, please ask me anything you'd like and I will respond directly.


I'll start that.

In post 53, Porkens wrote:
In post 23, Aristophanes wrote:Porkens!!!
You and I are the only pre-2017ers here! :O

Hey Acid!
Why vote me instead of starting your own wagon?

DW, what is the point of voting the person who has not yet confirmed? I see none.


Hi! Good to see you here, it should be an interesting game :)

In post 25, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 24, Inferno390 wrote:
In post 21, acidphoenix wrote:nein


What's that supposed to mean?
No, in German.


How do you read question interception?

In post 36, darrenwoodward10 wrote:
In post 34, Inferno390 wrote:
In post 33, Porkens wrote:Someone throw another vote on inferno for me please.


So you want to bring the pressure on me, eh? Cool. Just go ahead and start firing off your questions. If someone thinks you've got a case, I'm sure they'll throw a vote on the pile.

This comes across as a bit too defensive to me


What does this level of defensiveness tell you?

In post 35, darrenwoodward10 wrote:
In post 23, Aristophanes wrote:DW, what is the point of voting the person who has not yet confirmed? I see none.

Because we're in RVS, also because it'll hopefully get them to start posting sooner.


Why do you want them to post sooner?

In post 45, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 35, darrenwoodward10 wrote:
In post 23, Aristophanes wrote:DW, what is the point of voting the person who has not yet confirmed? I see none.

Because we're in RVS, also because it'll hopefully get them to start posting sooner.
Riiiiight.
Because voting the giy who isnt here and has not even confirmed thay they will be here is toooootally going to respond sooooo much quicker because they have been voted... :roll:


Why are you using sarcasm here?


What's with all of the questions here? They seem to be unconnected and kind of random, like you're trying to latch onto something to scum read from.

In post 154, Porkens wrote:I love jokes!

Here's a readslist:
Inferno390

Aristophanes1 (SE)
Gorny (SE)


northsidegal
darrenwoodward10


Noodle
Nauci


acidphoenix (SE)

Vote: acidphoenix


Why am I so town to you? You haven't even really tried scumreading me yet.

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Post Post #191  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:57 pm

Well Inferno just asked the main thing I wanted to ask you.
It is possible that Porkens is PR just trying to get a good idea of everyone's roles, but PRs should be just as focused on scumhunting. So he (or she) has got my vote for now.

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Post Post #192  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:58 pm

I just realised I didn't even answer Porkens' questions. For what it's worth I'll do that now

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Post Post #193  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:04 pm

In post 53, Porkens wrote:
In post 36, darrenwoodward10 wrote:This comes across as a bit too defensive to me


What does this level of defensiveness tell you?

In post 35, darrenwoodward10 wrote:
In post 23, Aristophanes wrote:DW, what is the point of voting the person who has not yet confirmed? I see none.

Because we're in RVS, also because it'll hopefully get them to start posting sooner.


Why do you want them to post sooner?

1) Well, scum are more likely to be defensive when someone puts a vote on them in an effort to look townie I guess. This feels more like an experienced player trying to test a newbie tbh. If that was the intention, you don't have to test me.

2) It benefits everyone if they post sooner, they can add their reads and their insight, and adding a new player into the mix can change other peoples' reads.

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Post Post #194  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:04 pm

In post 191, darrenwoodward10 wrote:Well Inferno just asked the main thing I wanted to ask you.
It is possible that Porkens is PR just trying to get a good idea of everyone's roles, but PRs should be just as focused on scumhunting. So he (or she) has got my vote for now.


:D

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Post Post #195  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:18 pm

In post 190, Inferno390[/quote]

What's with all of the questions here? They seem to be unconnected and kind of random, like you're trying to latch onto something to scum read from.[/quote]

You are correct; I am asking these questions to probe for scum.

[quote="In post 154, Porkens wrote:
I love jokes!

Here's a readslist:
Inferno390

Aristophanes1 (SE)
Gorny (SE)


northsidegal
darrenwoodward10


Noodle
Nauci


acidphoenix (SE)

Vote: acidphoenix


Why am I so town to you? You haven't even really tried scumreading me yet.[/quote]

As I read the thread, I have a text document open. I skim, and let my mind wander over the posts. When something scummy or towny jumps out at me, I move names around. You ended up at the top. I don't remember why exactly, but I'll go back and try to reconstruct my thought process if you'd like.

In post 191, darrenwoodward10 wrote:Well Inferno just asked the main thing I wanted to ask you.
It is possible that Porkens is PR just trying to get a good idea of everyone's roles, but PRs should be just as focused on scumhunting. So he (or she) has got my vote for now.


I really don't know what you are saying here. First of all, it feels like you are trying to figure out whether I am a PR or not - and I don't know why town would be doing that.

Second, scumhunting is exactly what I'm doing.

In post 193, darrenwoodward10 wrote:
In post 53, Porkens wrote:
In post 36, darrenwoodward10 wrote:This comes across as a bit too defensive to me


What does this level of defensiveness tell you?

In post 35, darrenwoodward10 wrote:
In post 23, Aristophanes wrote:DW, what is the point of voting the person who has not yet confirmed? I see none.

Because we're in RVS, also because it'll hopefully get them to start posting sooner.


Why do you want them to post sooner?

1) Well, scum are more likely to be defensive when someone puts a vote on them in an effort to look townie I guess. This feels more like an experienced player trying to test a newbie tbh. If that was the intention, you don't have to test me.

2) It benefits everyone if they post sooner, they can add their reads and their insight, and adding a new player into the mix can change other peoples' reads.


1) Does being defensive make someone look town?

2) Do you believe Noodle is reading the thread and not posting?

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Post Post #196  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:29 pm

In post 195, Porkens wrote:
In post 190, Inferno390


What's with all of the questions here? They seem to be unconnected and kind of random, like you're trying to latch onto something to scum read from.[/quote]

You are correct; I am asking these questions to probe for scum.

[quote="In post 154, Porkens wrote:I love jokes!

Here's a readslist:
Inferno390

Aristophanes1 (SE)
Gorny (SE)


northsidegal
darrenwoodward10


Noodle
Nauci


acidphoenix (SE)

Vote: acidphoenix


Why am I so town to you? You haven't even really tried scumreading me yet.[/quote]

As I read the thread, I have a text document open. I skim, and let my mind wander over the posts. When something scummy or towny jumps out at me, I move names around. You ended up at the top. I don't remember why exactly, but I'll go back and try to reconstruct my thought process if you'd like.

In post 191, darrenwoodward10 wrote:Well Inferno just asked the main thing I wanted to ask you.
It is possible that Porkens is PR just trying to get a good idea of everyone's roles, but PRs should be just as focused on scumhunting. So he (or she) has got my vote for now.


I really don't know what you are saying here. First of all, it feels like you are trying to figure out whether I am a PR or not - and I don't know why town would be doing that.

Second, scumhunting is exactly what I'm doing.

In post 193, darrenwoodward10 wrote:
In post 53, Porkens wrote:
In post 36, darrenwoodward10 wrote:This comes across as a bit too defensive to me


What does this level of defensiveness tell you?

In post 35, darrenwoodward10 wrote:
In post 23, Aristophanes wrote:DW, what is the point of voting the person who has not yet confirmed? I see none.

Because we're in RVS, also because it'll hopefully get them to start posting sooner.


Why do you want them to post sooner?

1) Well, scum are more likely to be defensive when someone puts a vote on them in an effort to look townie I guess. This feels more like an experienced player trying to test a newbie tbh. If that was the intention, you don't have to test me.

2) It benefits everyone if they post sooner, they can add their reads and their insight, and adding a new player into the mix can change other peoples' reads.


1) Does being defensive make someone look town?

2) Do you believe Noodle is reading the thread and not posting?[/quote]

1. But these don't really seem like you're probing from scum. If you were probing for scum, I'd think you would ask one or two questions at a certain player and see what they do, not throw 5 unrelated questions at everyone.
2. Please do.
3. I'd like to make a case on your conversation with Darren:
1) I think that that depends on the defense stance taken. Like if someone was being "scared" defensive, using a "why me" approach, I would lean toward scum. If they're casual and willing to debate and get dirty, I'd think that they're pro-town.
2) I am of the opinion that Noodle is lucking and trying to get a read on everyone (or, if he's scum, looking for an opening to get the mislynch).

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Post Post #197  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:22 pm

1. Well, in general, casting many lines and watching for nibbles seems like a fine strategy to me. In addition, all those questions were directed at two people who were having a conversation together. My questions were in response to their conversation.

2. ok, itll have to be later.

3.1. "defensive" to me means only defending one's self rather than also attempting offense.
3.2. How can you possibly have such a fleshed out opinion about Noodle at this point?

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Post Post #198  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:25 pm

In post 197, Porkens wrote:1. Well, in general, casting many lines and watching for nibbles seems like a fine strategy to me. In addition, all those questions were directed at two people who were having a conversation together. My questions were in response to their conversation.

2. ok, itll have to be later.

3.1. "defensive" to me means only defending one's self rather than also attempting offense.
3.2. How can you possibly have such a fleshed out opinion about Noodle at this point?


3.1: But there's more than one kind of defensive.
3.2: You asked if Darren thought he was reading the posts. I think he is. That would be lurking. There's only a few reasons he would be lurking: To avoid suspicion, to try and get reads on everybody, or to try and find a reason to jump on somebody for a mislynch.

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Post Post #199  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:32 pm

@Porkens: I don't think you're PR and I don't care because it's distracting me from scumhunting. I said it's possible but PRs should be more focused on scumhunting, it was my argument for why you're not a PR for those who thought otherwise.

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