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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:44 am

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Game Information

Welcome to
Newbie 1129
- Moderated by
Enigma


Game Status

Game Over

Player List

trekker
Twistedspoon DrEvil
BBmolla* Moon1ight**
zMuffinMan* thEnigma**
Espeonage* denisatp
nopointinactingup John Doe* mastermind963852741
jmurph3 SE
Chimp Pants SE SigmaEXE003*
Debonair Danny DiPietro IC

* Indicates the number of prods a player has received.

Role Reveal

Spoiler:
Twistedspoon,
Mafia Rolecop
, lynched Day 1.
jmurph3,
Town Cop
, killed Night 1.
Espeonage,
Vanilla Townie
, lynched Day 2.
nopointinactingup,
Town Jailkeeper
, killed Night 2.
trekker,
Vanilla Townie
, lynched Day 3.
Chimp Pants,
Vanilla Townie
, killed Night 3.
Debonair Danny DiPietro,
Vanilla Townie
, lynched Day 4.
BBmolla,
Vanilla Townie
, killed in Endgame.

zMuffinMan,
Mafia Goon
, survives and has achieved the mafia win condition.
Game Links

Day 1 Begins | Day 2 Begins | Day 3 Begins | Day 4 Begins | End Game


Rules

All site wide rules apply, unless explicitly specified.

1. General Etiquette

a) Mafia is a game. Enjoy yourself! Being respectful will ensure other people also enjoy the game.
b) I respect everyone's ability to conduct themselves maturely and am more lenient with player interactions. However, do not continue your behaviour if other players find it uncomfortable.
c) You have been given a win condition. You are expected to play towards that win condition.
e) If you would like me to notice something in game, please post it in the format
Mod: Hi!
or I may miss it.
f) Please do not post in the game if you are not a player.
g) I reserve the right to change or update any rules.

2. Communication

a) Do not discuss this game outside of this thread unless explicitly specified.
b) Do not quote your role PM or any moderator related communications. Paraphrasing is acceptable. Don't push it.
c) If you die, you are permitted one "bah" post with no game related content.
d) If you die, you will be given access to a dead quicktopic. Bear in mind that this will be shared publicly postgame. Do not share this link with anyone.
e) Do not use any invisible/hard to read text or cryptography.
f) If you have the ability to edit you posts, don't. I will gladly edit any minor mistakes if you request it.
g) Mod posts will be in violet. Please do not use anything resembling this color.
h) Flavor is provided purely for your entertainment purposes. I reserve the right to be lazy and not provide any flavor at all.
i) Scum may use their quicktopic for 48 hours once role PM's have been sent or until day 1 begins, which ever is longer.
j) All night actions must be submitted by PM as stated in your role PM, or they will not count.
k) Do not post if the thread is open if the mod has declared a lynch/opening scene is incoming.
l) Do not post in any night quicktopics once daybreak has been announced.

3. Voting

a) Votes must be bolded, at the start of a line. I take no responsibility if your vote is not acknowledged if it is camouflaged in a wall of text.
b) Unvotes are nice but are not necessary.
c) Do not abuse voting to intentionally mislead other players. This includes fake hammers and such.
d) Abbreviations are acceptable as long as it is obvious who you are referring to.
e) A lynch occurs when a majority is reached. For an odd number of players, this is (n+1)/2. For an even number of players, this is (n/2)+1.
f) Votes posted after the deadline has elapsed as stated by the countdown link will not be counted.
g) If no majority is reached by the deadline, a No Lynch will occur.
h) You may vote for No Lynch. It requires a majority minus one votes to happen unless the game is in LYLO where it will require majority votes.

4. Deadlines and Activity

a) All newbie games have a fixed day deadline of 3 weeks.
b) Nights will have a maximum deadline of 72 hours, and minimum deadline of 48 hours.
c) You may request a deadline extension in extreme circumstances, and maybe granted at my own at my own discretion depending on the game situation, and replacements as such.
d) If no night actions are submitted in PM, by the time the night deadline expires, you will forfeit your action. Any night actions
changes
submitted after 48 hours risk not being accepted.
e) All night actions follow the Natural Action Resolution system unless otherwise specified.
f) Please aim to post at least every 48 hours. You will receive a prod if you do not post within a 72 hour interval. You have 24 hours to respond to the prod via in-game post (or PM if thread locked) before you are replaced.
g) You will be automatically replaced if you receive 3 prods, or 2 prods in the same game day.
h) Please announce all V/LA's in thread or via PM. I will keep track of all V/LA's in vote counts.

5. Consequences

a) Minor rule infringements will result in a private warning.
b) Major or continued rule infringements will result in a modkill or force replacement.
c) If you are modkilled you will be turned into a Neutral Survivor and auto lossed.


Sample Role PM's

All newbie games are now trialling a new 9 player semi open setup known as
2of4
.

2of4 SetupThe setup consists of 5 predetermined roles with the final 2 roles randomly picked out of a possible 4 roles, with no chance of duplication.

Predetermined Roles
5 x Vanilla Townies
1 x Mafia Goon
1 x Mafia Rolecop

Possible Roles
1 x Town Cop
1 x Town Doctor
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Vanilla Townie

The 6 possible setups are
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Rolecop, 1 Town Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Rolecop, 1 Town Doctor, 6 Vanilla Townies
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Rolecop, 1 Town Jailkeeper, 6 Vanilla Townies
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Rolecop, 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 5 Vanilla Townies
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Rolecop, 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Jailkeeper, 5 Vanilla Townies
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Rolecop, 1 Town Jailkeeper, 1 Town Doctor, 5 Vanilla Townies

In all newbie setups, both the Cop and Doctor are guaranteed to be sane.
Players may not target themselves at any times with their own abilities.

You know there exists at least 1 of each of the roles below:

Vanilla TownieHi there
Player
!

Welcome to
Newbie 1129
.

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

During the day, you have one vote which you can use to further your agenda.
Unfortunately for you, you have no active nor passive abilities, bad luck!

Abilities:
None.
Win Condition:
You win when all the Mafia have been evicted from your community.

Confirm via game post.
Good Luck!
Mafia GoonHi there
Player
!

Welcome to
Newbie 1129
.

You are a
Mafia Goon
.
Your partner is
Player
, who is a
Mafia Rolecop
.

During the day, you have one vote which you can use to further your agenda.

Abilities:
None.
Team Abilities:
Each night, you may discuss in on one player whom you wish to
Night Kill
, and have the person who will be performing the action to PM me with the target.
Win Condition:
You win when all the Mafia have a majority of alive players or if nothing can prevent the same.

Confirm via game post.
Good Luck!
Mafia RolecopHi there
Player
!

Welcome to
Newbie 1129
.

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.
Your partner is
Player
, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

During the day, you have one vote which you can use to further your agenda.

Abilities:
Each night you may PM me with a player whom you wish to
Rolecop
. You will receive their
Role Name
, or
No Result
if you have been jailed.
Team Abilities:
Each night, you may discuss in on one player whom you wish to
Night Kill
, and have the person who will be performing the action to PM me with the target.
Win Condition:
You win when all the Mafia have a majority of alive players or if nothing can prevent the same.

Note: You may perform both Night Kill and Rolecop regardless if the goon is dead or alive.

Confirm via game post.
Good Luck!

You know that there may be 1 or none of each of the roles below:

Town CopHi there
Player
!

Welcome to
Newbie 1129
.

You are a
Town Cop
.

During the day, you have one vote which you can use to further your agenda.

Abilities:
Each night you may PM me with a player whom you wish to
Investigate
. You will receive either
Guilty
or
Innocent
based on their allegiance, or
No Result
if you have been jailed.
Win Condition:
You win when all the Mafia have been evicted from your community.

Confirm via game post.
Good Luck!
Town DoctorHi there
Player
!

Welcome to
Newbie 1129
.

You are a
Town Doctor
.

During the day, you have one vote which you can use to further your agenda.

Abilities:
Each night you may PM me with a player whom you wish to
Protect
. That target will be protected from night kills, provided you aren't roleblocked. You will not be informed if you protection is successful or not.
Win Condition:
You win when all the Mafia have been evicted from your community.

Confirm via game post.
Good Luck!
Town JailkeeperHi there
Player
!

Welcome to
Newbie 1129
.

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

During the day, you have one vote which you can use to further your agenda.

Abilities:
Each night you may PM me with a player whom you wish to
Jailkeep
. Any abilities the player tries to performs, as well as any abilities targeting the player, will fail.
Win Condition:
You win when all the Mafia have been evicted from your community.

Confirm via game post.
Good Luck!


Miscellaneous

If you have any questions about the game, feel free to ask the IC in the thread. They are here to help. Otherwise, you can also PM me and I will try to offer what assistance I can.

You may find the following links helpful:
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:49 am

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My apologies for the late start of the game.

Roles have already been randomly assigned to players and are being distributed now. Please confirm in thread.

Feel free to discuss amongst yourselves during confirmation. Votes will not be counted until I have announced day has begun, which will be after 7 out of 9 players have confirmed.

Players have 48 hours to confirm before facing replacement.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:17 am

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/confirm
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:18 am

Post by Debonair Danny DiPietro »

/confirm
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:55 am

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/confirm
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:37 am

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/confirm for my first game
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:40 am

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/confirm
Let's do this! :D
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:47 pm

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Hey, friends. I confirm.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:17 am

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/confirm.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:00 am

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The game is a go! The remaining players have about one day left to confirm before they are replaced.

Day 1 begins now.

Votecount 1.0Not Voting (9) - trekker, DrEvil, Moon1ight, thEnigma, denisatp, mastermind963852741, jmurph3, SigmaEXE003, Debonair Danny DiPietro

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch before the deadline
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:11 am

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Good morning :)

Just some questions for the start:
1. How many games have you played here on MafiaScum?
2. What do you think about policy lynches, like hanging all lurkers?
3. Do you know anybody in this game?

(Note that I consciously avoided WIFOM-introducing questions like "How would you play as town in given circumstances?" I don't advocate this kind of questions, as they are never really useful (from my readings i other games here) and lead to odd pseudo-metas (As in "He wrote last game that he'll do this and that as town.Now he does it. So maybe he's really town? Or is that what he always does? Or wait, wasn't he scum in that game? So was he lying as an answer? Or was that unrelated to his alignment?" ). )
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:40 am

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1. This is my first game on mafiascum. This isnt my first mafia game. I have a fairly large body of work on epicmafia.
2.I tend not to do policy lynches in most situations.However, if i am getting townreads on everybody i am fine with lynching a lurker who is sending of null reads.
3. I dont know anybody in this game.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:47 am

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So with 9 players we have 2 ml's.I feel it is best to lynch on both days. The only benefit of a NL is reports from a investigative role we might not even have. I want to let discussion stir up before placing a vote
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:52 am

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Moon1ight wrote:1. How many games have you played here on MafiaScum?

2 finished games, 3 ongoing (including this one)
2. What do you think about policy lynches, like hanging all lurkers?

The only policy lynch I would promote is Lynch all Liars.
3. Do you know anybody in this game?

Nope.

Vote: mastermind


For having an excessive amount of numbers in their username.

P-Edit: No lynch is also useful in MyLo, where no lynching gives us another day as opposed to a mislynch causing our loss.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:59 am

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I'll answer my own questions (almost forgot it)

1. This is my very first game here, but I have some (limitted) experience at IRC-Mafia (Which I consider to be more about pressure and quickness then about logic and thinking, but still entertaining at times). I did read some games here and quite a few of wiki-pages about the game.
2. I pretty much agree with denisatp, when the people all seem more or less town, but someone is lurking while avoiding prods (1 meaningless post in 47 hours...), I'll consider him to be either scum or so strongly anti-town that he deserves to by lynched.
But, additionally, if someone plays like town but works pretty much against it, as in outing whom he considers to have power roles multiple times, constantly pushing for no lynch at many ingame-days, accusing or defending people without arguments (outside of the Random Voting Stage), lying about his role and so on, I'd probably consider him a valid policy-lynch even if I think he's town. This is because he'd be helping scum in fact, and I wouldn't want my town-mates or me with this guy and a scum in LyLo... Also I could never know if this guy is really town and I guess it would be doubtful.
3. I don't know anyone of the players here, hope we'll have a good time.


I hope my English is understandable, it's only my third language. If something seems odd or unclear, just mention it. I'll try to clarify.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:01 am

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But in a 9player day start setup only way we could get into a mylo situation is a mafia nl.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:02 am

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Ah, another thing:

VOTE: thEnigma

for having a name similar to the Moderator.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:21 am

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Hiy'all! :P And to Moon1ight, it could be the moderator's fault that he has a similar name to me :P (for the record I didn't actually know that his username existed until I made my account XD)

1. This is my first game of mafia, either on mafiascum or anywhere else.
2. I think lurking is a strategy that mafia seem to be using whenever they're stuck. But I don't think this should be a policy lynch, because by the fact that they're lurking is going to attract votes anyhow. You get what I'm saying?
3. I wish I knew Enigma ;) He seems like a nice guy, you know?

/vote denisatp
for having a really confusing post XD Could anyone clarify?

Also, Moon1ight, impressive! 3rd language? You're amazing? What are your 1st and 2nd languages? English happens to be my 2nd language as well, so sorry if I'm rambling :P
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:26 am

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denisatp wrote:But in a 9player day start setup only way we could get into a mylo situation is a mafia nl.

Or doc protection, or the jailer blocking the mafioso making the kill. There's a 5/6 chance we have at least a doc or a jailer. MyLo isn't very unlikely in this setup.
Moon1ight wrote:I hope my English is understandable, it's only my third language. If something seems odd or unclear, just mention it. I'll try to clarify.

So far, it's been crystal clear.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:03 am

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SigmaEXE003 wrote:
denisatp wrote:But in a 9player day start setup only way we could get into a mylo situation is a mafia nl.

Or doc protection, or the jailer blocking the mafioso making the kill. There's a 5/6 chance we have at least a doc or a jailer. MyLo isn't very unlikely in this setup.
Moon1ight wrote:I hope my English is understandable, it's only my third language. If something seems odd or unclear, just mention it. I'll try to clarify.

So far, it's been crystal clear.


However if we get a doctor save it makes sense for him to out on mylo and lead because mafia already are able to eliminate another person of being doc. And have a higher chance at killing the doctor. And in that situation if the doctor had not outed we have no clears. But if he outed on mylo we have 2 clears.(doctor and the save)
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:07 am

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thEnigma which post didnt you understand? I will clarify it. Also i dont like how thEnigma defended himself from moon1ight having a vote on him. When it was basically random.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:36 am

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/vote denisatp
for having a really confusing post XD Could anyone clarify?


Please put your votes in
bold
or VOTE: vote tags and at the start of lines. This is to make live easier for Enigma, as spotting a
/vote is harder then spotting a
VOTE: vote



thEnigma wrote:
Also, Moon1ight, impressive! 3rd language? You're amazing? What are your 1st and 2nd languages? English happens to be my 2nd language as well, so sorry if I'm rambling :P


Not really amazing, I consider it amazing when someone knows 3 (or more) while never having moved to another country or 4 (or more) when having moved. I actually have, so I learned two languages at a very young age, which makes it pretty easy compared to learning them at school or even later. Plus, my English is far better then my first language, as I totally lack grammar and spelling there, due to never really using it for writing, so I don't really have three languages in speech and writing at my disposal.
But we probably shouldn't have this topic becoming too important, as it's not really doing anything to further the game :)



denisatp wrote:thEnigma which post didnt you understand? I will clarify it. Also i dont like how thEnigma defended himself from moon1ight having a vote on him. When it was basically random.


I wouldn't take that so serious... It seems more like a clarification then a defense. You could say that the smileys are sign of nervosity, but also of having fun with random arguments in RVS... So it's pretty WIFOM to use that post as base for arguments (in both directions).
Just as well one could notice that your "not liking" could be disliked - as early throwing of suspicion by scum. Or you're doing it to get the game going because you're town. None of both seems more probable then the other, just as with thEnigma.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:48 am

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I havent even voted him yet. I was just pointing it out. And now that i reread his post it also kind of annoys me that he went of topic. Out of all the people that have posted so far i find him the scummiest. So for now.
Vote:ThEnigma.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:52 am

Post by denisatp »

Well now i voted him.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:09 pm

Post by Debonair Danny DiPietro »

Oi, to head off questions of this nature: I respond to nearly any variation of my name from the full thing to DDD, Danny to DDDP to "Hey, you" as long as I know that I'm the "Hey, you" you're referring to. As the IC, I'm here to answer questions and provide some order to the game while also playing the game. If you have some question not related directly to your role (those questions should be sent to Nexus) feel free to ask them. It is much better to ask a question than to blunder and hurt the town accidentally.

Other than that, you get out of this game what you put in. So if you want to have fun, come in with a positive attitude, don't take any debate, arguments, or accusations personally and just pretend it's Pat Benetar and give it your best shot. I think experience is the best teacher and so unless otherwise prompted I'll be playing the game the same as the rest of you.

~

This is me intentionally not answering random questions; they're pointless as always.

If jmurph starts lurking we lynch her yesterday; I don't care if she declares V/LA she disappears she should die.

VOTE: denisatp

What now, son?

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