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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:36 pm

player list
JammySplodgeGuiltyLion*-died night 2 and was a vanilla townie
SkiddishRaddish-endgamed and was a vanilla townie
doomfeathers-lynched day 1 and was a mafia goon
Col_Hightower-endgamed and was a town doctor
vytisdrakonaYume-lynched d2 and was a vanilla townie
Almost50 (SE)-won and was a mafia roleblocker
JeanDarcLmkGuy*-lynched D3 and was a vanilla townie
TierShift (SE)*-died night 1 and was a town cop
Thor665 Accountant(IC)-lynched d4 and was a vanilla townie

Bold=confirmed
*=a prod. 3 prods and you will be replaced
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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:14 pm

General:
- Follow all site rules. You can find them here
- Do not discuss this game outside of this thread unless your role PM allows you to do so.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all (real or fabricated). Paraphrasing is acceptable. Additionally, no talking about mod communications in game at all.
- No "bah" posts.
-Have fun
-feel free to ask the IC or I questions.
- If you break any of these rules, you will probably be modkilled.

Voting/Player Actions:
- All votes must be in bold format: vote: Nero for example. You can also use vote tags.
- A lynch will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached by deadline, then no lynch shall occur.
- Following a lynch you may continue to post until I lock the thread.
-Its a heated game but try to keep it civil. If I believe your behavior is excessive and/or I receive many complaints you will be force replaced.


Activity:

-Treat this game as a commitment. If you don't have time to play then be courteous and replace out.
- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. After 48 hours you will be sent a prod. If you don not respond to your prod within 24 hours you will be replaced.

Mechanics:
- purple is my color. Please don't use it.
- Do not edit your posts.
- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.
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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:18 pm

Game Setup


This game is using the standard Newbie Game setup, Matrix6. One row or one column will be randomly chosen from the table below and the remaining six roles will be filled in by Mafia Goons and Vanilla Townies as appropriate to create a total of 2 Mafia-aligned players and 7 Town-aligned players.

ABC
1
Town Jailkeeper
Vanilla Townie
Mafia Goon
2
Mafia Roleblocker
Town Cop
Town Doctor
3
Town 1-Shot Bulletproof
Mafia Goon
Town Tracker


Please note:
  • The Mafia must specify who is performing what Night action when the actions are submitted.
  • In applicable situations, a Roleblocker's action will resolve before a Jailkeeper's action.
  • In applicable situations, a Mafia Roleblocker has the option of submitting both roleblocks and kills, even when the Mafia Goon is still alive.

Spoiler: List of Role PMs
Role PM wrote:You are a Vanilla Townie.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may sleep.

Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a Town Cop.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may investigate one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. At the end of the Night, you will receive a result in the form of You believe [target] to be [Guilty/Not Guilty]. If you did not successfully investigate someone, you will receive No Result.

Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a Town Doctor.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may protect one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. You may not target yourself. You will not be informed as to the result of your protection.

Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a Town Jailkeeper.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may place one player in Jail by sending me the name of your target via PM. They will be protected from kills and prevented from using their own ability, if they have one. You cannot target yourself.

Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a Town Tracker.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may track one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. At the end of the Night, you will be told if that player targeted anyone and whom that player targeted.

Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a Town 1-Shot Bulletproof.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • You will survive the first kill attempt made on you during the Night. You will not be informed if and when this happens.

Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a Mafia Goon with your partner, name (role).

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • As a team, the Mafia may kill one player per Night by sending posting on the Mafia thread or sending me a PM with your target and which one of you will be performing the kill.
  • You may talk to your partner at Night in [url]this[/url] thread.

Win Condition
  • You win when the Town is eliminated and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a Mafia Roleblocker with your partner, name (Mafia Goon).

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • Individually, you may roleblock one player by sending me the name of your target via the Mafia thread or by PM. You may both roleblock and kill during the same Night.
  • As a team, the Mafia may kill one player per Night by posting on the Mafia thread or by sending me a PM with your target and which one of you will be performing the kill.
  • You may talk to your partner at Night in [url]this[/url] thread.

Win Condition
  • You win when the Town is eliminated and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:09 pm

Cruel!! I only know Thor, so I we're back to good old scum hunting w/o relying on meta! Oh, well..

VOTE: Thor

Greetings, my friends :)
Records: W/L
Town: 24/19, Mafia: 5/4, 3P: 1/1
Modded 2 Normals & 2 Themed games successfully.

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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:23 pm

Role pms have been sent out. D1 will start once 8 players have confirmed.
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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:57 pm

Accountant replaces Thor effective now

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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:15 am

Day 1 begins!

no one is voting yet. A50's vote on Thor did not count since I'm, a shit mod and forgot to lock the thread.

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch or no lynch.

the deadline is October 14th at 4:16am CST or (expired on 2016-10-15 05:18:06)
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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:15 am


Hi, I’m Accountant, your friendly neighbourhood Inexperience-Challenged player, or IC. This means that I have a few games under my belt, so I know the ins and outs of mafia and can show you the ropes. For those of you who hate reading long rants, or have read a similar post already, check out the link:
A Beginner’s Guide to Being Awesome At Mafia
Anyway, as the IC, it’s my job to teach you theory concepts, which means I will never lie about theory questions. Ever.
Before we start the game proper, I’d like to cover a few key concepts.


Hammering, Lynching and L-1
When the number of votes on a player exceeds half the number of players for that game, that player is lynched instantly and the Day ends. For example, we have 9 players. If that means the hammer is 5, so if there were to be 5 votes on someone, that player would be lynched. Do not recklessly hammer, especially early in the game, or you’ll risk accidentally lynching town members and cutting short discussion time.
The concept of L-X is used to indicate how many votes a player is to hammer. L-1 means 1 vote to hammer, L-2 means 2 votes to hammer and so forth. So for this game, if someone were to get 4 votes, they would be at L-1. When you place the vote that puts someone at L-1(for example, if someone has 3 votes and you’re putting the 4th vote down, with a hammer of 5), you should usually announce it with a statement like “He’s at L-1”, so people don’t accidentally hammer. Even more importantly, it means that mafia can’t hammer a town member and then claim ignorance the next day.
If someone is at L-1 and you want to hammer him, you should usually state “intent to hammer”, which means “I want to lynch you”. When you do this, you can also ask for a role claim. That way, if the player is a power role being mislynched, he can claim before you place the hammering vote, and thus save himself.


LyLo
LyLo is the shortened form of a phrase which means “lynch or lose”. The simplest form of LyLo is 3 players, 2 of whom are vanilla townies and the last being a mafia goon. Then, it’s easy to see that if they do not lynch, the mafia goon will kill one of them at night, stalemating the lynch the next day, and killing the last town member on Night 2 – although the mod will usually recognize this and end the game early instead of dragging it out.
When town is in LyLo, it’s important not to carelessly vote like you would on any other day, because of the potential for a mafia coordinated hammer(a “quickhammer”, happening before anyone else can react). Let’s say we have LyLo with 3 Vanilla Townies and 2 Mafia Goons. One of the vanilla townie carelessly puts his vote on another VT. This allows the two mafia goons to instantly rush in and simultaneously vote that VT, bringing his vote count to 3 in a game of 5 players, which is a hammer and loss for the town.
It’s good practice to try to recognize LyLo situations when you see them, but in Newbie games a more experienced player will usually point out that it’s LyLo and caution people from recklessly voting. Learning how to deal with LyLo is a very important part of playing mafia, and it comes up more often than you might think.


RVS
We are currently in the RVS, or Random Voting Stage. As none of us has any idea who is mafia(well, except the mafia members themselves, but they’re hardly going to admit it), we’re mostly poking around and slinging votes like hot curry at a food fight, trying to provoke reactions, start a discussion and basically probe around to try and determine player’s alignments.
As it is the Random Voting Stage, it’s common for players to vote for very silly reasons, such as “your avatar is ugly” or “your username has too many numbers in it”. Don’t worry, they don’t have a grudge against you or anything. It’s just part of RVS. Without RVS, it would be a lot harder to get the game moving.


Conclusion
Thank you for joining this newbie game, and I hope that all of us will have fun playing, win or lose. If you have any questions at all, feel free to ask me. I’m an IC, so it’s my job to be active and respond to questions from newer players. I live in Singapore, which makes my timezone GMT+8, so don’t be surprised if I answer in the middle of the night or appear to be inactive at high noon(I’m probably sleeping).

Have fun and good luck!


- Accountant
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.

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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:16 am

VOTE: Almost50

People who make invalid votes are 34% more likely to be mafia. That's a fact.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.

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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:10 am

VOTE: Accountant for Thor replacing out.

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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:35 am

VOTE: Tiershift, for having a cool name but not voting yet :P


Accountant do you prefer Random Voting over Random Questions?


(Just want to get it out there that due to my schedule I might only be able to post once every 24-ish hours once the game truly starts, but I have a tendency to textwall so that should balance itself out.)

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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:40 am

Random Voting is better. Voting involves putting your money where your mouth is; even though it's a joke, it's still a real vote. Because of that, it makes the game get into its serious phase far more easily.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.

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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:33 am

Hello, I'm JammySplodge, I've played Mafia before, on the ToS Forums, and have completed many games, however, I still consider myself to not be very good at Mafia, hence why I'm here
I'm hoping to improve my skills, and also not die
:3

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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:39 am

Jammy, why aren't you participating in the Random Voting Stage?
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.

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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:46 am

In post 12, JammySplodge wrote:Hello, I'm JammySplodge, I've played Mafia before, on the ToS Forums, and have completed many games, however, I still consider myself to not be very good at Mafia, hence why I'm here
I'm hoping to improve my skills, and also not die
:3

I know she's a newbie, but this seems rather odd and perhaps as if she's a little unsure of herself or hesitant.

VOTE: JammySplodge

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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:16 pm

Come to think of it, "not dying" is a more probable motive for scum than it is for townies. Townies win by finding scum. Scum win by not dying. Could it be a scumslip?

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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:28 pm

VOTE: JammySplodge
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.

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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:03 pm

It wasn't supposed to be a super serious "OMG PLS DONT KILL ME IM TOWN" type thing
I was just trying to introduce myself casually, instead of being super serious

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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:09 pm

Ah doom trying to get rid of accountant on day one damn you must be desperate for another win

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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:13 pm

@Accountant: That's probably the most convincing argument for Random voting I've seen yet. And it seems to be working so far.

VOTE: Doomfeathers

I agree with your analysis and it could be a scumslip but I'd like to give her benefit of the doubt if this is her first game on the site. Don't like that we have two people voting for her right away, it's quite a bit of pressure.

P-Edit: @JammySplodge: Well if you're not trying to be super serious then you should join the fun and vote! :]

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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:16 pm

Why don't you like us pressuring Jammy, Skiddish? If you agree that it could be a scumslip but also could be her being newbie, then shouldn't you want to put pressure on her and question her more to try to find out which it is?
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.

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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:17 pm

doomfeathers wrote:
In post 12, JammySplodge wrote:Hello, I'm JammySplodge, I've played Mafia before, on the ToS Forums, and have completed many games, however, I still consider myself to not be very good at Mafia, hence why I'm here
I'm hoping to improve my skills, and also not die
:3

I know she's a newbie, but this seems rather odd and perhaps as if she's a little unsure of herself or hesitant.

VOTE: JammySplodge

VOTE: doomfeathers

[obligatory OMGUS vote]

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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:17 pm

In post 17, JammySplodge wrote:It wasn't supposed to be a super serious "OMG PLS DONT KILL ME IM TOWN" type thing
I was just trying to introduce myself casually, instead of being super serious

There's a difference between introducing yourself casually and trying to project an artificial casual tone, and the way you worded that makes it seem like the latter. I'm happy with my vote.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.

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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:17 pm

ESPECIALLY with the OMGUS vote.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.

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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:44 pm

In post 18, Col_Hightower wrote:Ah doom trying to get rid of accountant on day one damn you must be desperate for another win

:lol: Eh, I deserved that wagon last game. I know better than to play like that again, though.

@Accountant: True, that is.

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