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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:29 am

Newbie 1906 | Fractals


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Hello. In this game I'll be showing pretty pictures of fractals and/or rambling about the maths behind them.
Such as the Mandelbrot Set. This image is zoomed by a factor of 2 and centred around the point -1.17378+0.63646i.




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Original Playerlist:
    1) Akagami Shanks
    2) Emperor flippyNips
    3) Nikk
    4) KidLyoko
    5) GrandWazoo
    6) Child
    7) Alonzo (SE)
    8) Formerfish (SE)
    9) Micc (IC)

Spoiler: Game Reveals (9)
    2) Emperor flippyNips1, mafia rolecop, lynched day 1
    5) GrandWazoo, town cop, killed night 1, but won posthumously!
    9) Micc1 (IC), mafia goon, lynched day 2
    1) YellowSnow1 replaces Akagami Shanks in pregame, vanilla townie, survived and won!
    3) Nikk1, vanilla townie, survived and won!

    4) TTTT replaces Poisonchan day 1, replaces KidLyoko in pregame, town tracker, survived and won!
    6) Child, vanilla townie, survived and won!
    7) Alonzo (SE), vanilla townie, survived and won!
    8) Formerfish (SE), vanilla townie, survived and won!



Spoiler: Spectators (1)
  • hubris


Events - Day 1 starts; pregame replacements: YellowSnow replaces Akagami Shanks; Poisonchan replaces KidLyoko
- TTTT replaces Poisonchan
- Emperor flippyNips is lynched, day 1 ends

- GrandWazoo is killed, day 2 begins
- Micc is lynched, game over

- Game Events, Links to game threads
Last edited by Plotinus on Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:57 am, edited 12 times in total.
"If Plotfrog is scum, town should feel bad that scumfrog is the only person here with common sense" -- The Blue Blur

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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:44 am

Rules

Inspired by Equinox's, Glork's and Ether's rulesets.

important bit

  • Day 1: up to 10 days, Day 2+ up to 7-days, Night: 48 hours.
  • Majority lynches
  • 36 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement, 24 hour weekends
  • Bah posts allowed (limit: 1, free of game related content)
  • I have some unusual rules about animated GIFs, tiny text, and prodging. Scroll down for details.
  • Don’t be a dick



  1. Follow all site rules.
  2. Mod colour – My mod colour is grey; don't use it.
  3. Behaviour - Don’t be a dick. This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself lynched if you try it.
  4. Don't talk about ongoing games - You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
  5. Animated GIFs - are of the devil, but they are permitted behind spoilers if clearly labelled as such.
  6. Tiny text - is also of the devil, keep it 70+ please.
  7. Provable randomness - is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
  8. Claiming scum - by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
  9. Cryptography - is forbidden. Breadcrumbing is okay.
  10. Confirmation - You have about 72 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if everyone confirms. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
  11. Days - Day 1 lasts 10 days and other days last 7 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements, or if the majority of players make it clear to me that an extension is desired.
  12. Activity - You must post at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. The activity timers run at half-speed on weekends. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night.
  13. Vacation/Limited Access If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare V/LA in bold in the thread like this: [b]@Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday[/b]. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 54 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
  14. Prodging - A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. To avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; xxxx is still scum."
  15. Quoting - You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
  16. Voting - Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Plotinus or Vote: Plotinus. Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type [v]Plotinus[/v] to vote and [uv]Plotinus[/uv] to unvote.
  17. Lynching - Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to lynch somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no lynch, the day will end without a lynch. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no lynch.
  18. Twilight - Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.
  19. Night - Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.
  20. Action submissions - You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
  21. Reminders - If I don't hear from you about your night actions, I'll PM you 24 hours before the deadline. This doesn't count as a prod. If I still don't hear from you, you will take no action.
  22. Play to win - this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!
"If Plotfrog is scum, town should feel bad that scumfrog is the only person here with common sense" -- The Blue Blur

Scheme is Over

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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:44 am

Newbie Setup
2d3 (as designed by Cabd):


ABC
MafiaMafia RoleblockerMafia RolecopMafia Goon
Row 1Town Cop and Town NeapolitanTown Cop and Town TrackerTown Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2Town Jailkeeper and Town DoctorTown Jailkeeper and Town TrackerTown Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3Town Cop and Town DoctorTown Neapolitan and Town DoctorTown Tracker and Town Doctor

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by one mafia goons and five vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects. Mafia Roleblocker action takes precedence over a Town Jailkeeper action should that apply.

Mafia can communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups
Column A & Row 1: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Neapolitan, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Neapolitan, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Doctor, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5


Spoiler: Role PMs
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a Town Jailkeeper.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a Town Cop.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are Town or Mafia. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town NeapolitanWelcome!

You are a Town Neapolitan.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are Vanilla Townie or Not Vanilla Townie. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a Town Tracker.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a Town Doctor.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.




Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a Mafia Goon.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a Mafia Rolecop.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment. Vanilla Townies and Mafia Goons will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a Mafia Roleblocker.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
"If Plotfrog is scum, town should feel bad that scumfrog is the only person here with common sense" -- The Blue Blur

Scheme is Over

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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:44 am

All role PMs have been sent out (in the order of the signup list so timestamps mean nothing)! We will start in (expired on 2018-12-15 08:45:00) or when [8/9] people have confirmed, whichever happens sooner.

The above clock and any others used throughout this game will be accurate from the time you loaded the page.
"If Plotfrog is scum, town should feel bad that scumfrog is the only person here with common sense" -- The Blue Blur

Scheme is Over

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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:05 am

Official Vote Count 1.00
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Zoom: 4; Centre: -0.34703+.69792i





LynchingWith 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Everybody (0): Nobody

Not Voting (9): Alonzo, Child, Emperor flippyNips, Formerfish, GrandWazoo, Micc, Nikk, Poisonchan, YellowSnow

Deadline: (expired on 2018-12-25 09:15:00).


Mod notes: Good luck everyone!

Akagami Shanks and KidLyoko haven't picked up their role PMs and confirmed in time. YellowSnow replaces Akagami Shanks and Poisonchan replaces KidLyoko.

YellowSnow and Poisonchan have another (expired on 2018-12-17 09:15:00) to confirm before they will be replaced.

Please take a moment to familiarise yourselves with my ruleset because I have some rules you may not have encountered in other games before regarding animated gifs, tiny text, prodging and perhaps some other things.
"If Plotfrog is scum, town should feel bad that scumfrog is the only person here with common sense" -- The Blue Blur

Scheme is Over

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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:22 am

VOTE: FormerFish

A private dancer

Dancer for money

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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:31 am

Hey everyone!

I'm the designated Inexperienced Challenged player for this game. This means I have volunteered to be a resource that newer players can use to answer questions about game mechanics or theory. The guidelines to my role as an IC are laid out in the wiki article titled Being a good IC.

My goals for this game are 1) to steer the game in the direction of being a reasonable representation of what you can expect from other games on this site and 2) to win. I will primarily be playing to accomplish these goals, but am more than happy to jump into teacher/mentor mode when players ask me questions about game mechanics or theory.

If you haven’t already, I encourage you to take some time to read through the setup and game rules to make sure you understand them. Additionally, the mafiascum wiki is a great resource for learning more about mafia.

Best of luck and enjoy the game!
"To hide a tree, use a forest" - Ninja Boy Hideo

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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:32 am

VOTE: Formerfish

Because wagon.
"To hide a tree, use a forest" - Ninja Boy Hideo

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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:46 am

VOTE: micc
My wagon is better. :cop:

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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:32 am

Greetings all.
VOTE: Emperor flippyNips

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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:43 am

In post 5, Alonzo wrote:VOTE: FormerFish

A private dancer

Dancer for money


OMGUS VOTE: Lonzo he's too cheeky.
"Getting lost in the details of nothing..."

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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:44 am

In post 7, Micc wrote:VOTE: Formerfish

Because wagon.


Tisk, tisk. You should know better by now.
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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:45 am

In post 8, Child wrote:VOTE: micc
My wagon is better. :cop:


One vote a wagon does not make. Why not vote with them and put pressure on me?
"Getting lost in the details of nothing..."

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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:58 am

VOTE: Alonzo

They know what they did.

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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:02 am

In post 13, Nikk wrote:VOTE: Alonzo

They know what they did.


Wait... thats my line?!?
"Getting lost in the details of nothing..."

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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:20 am

UNVOTE: FormerFish
VOTE: Alonzo

Choo Choo L-2
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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:20 am

In post 13, Nikk wrote:VOTE: Alonzo

They know what they did.


They do??

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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:21 am

VOTE: micc

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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:28 am

VOTE: child

Cos I like to start my own wagon :wink:

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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:18 pm

In post 12, Formerfish wrote:
In post 8, Child wrote:VOTE: micc
My wagon is better. :cop:


One vote a wagon does not make. Why not vote with them and put pressure on me?

One vote is necessary to start the wagon. And as i said previously..
In post 8, Child wrote:VOTE: micc
My wagon is better. :cop:

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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:20 pm

VOTE: Nikk

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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:17 pm

General-theory Q for Micc: as our resident IC, which of the 12 possible setups do you think most likely to benefit town? IOW, is it better to have more, relatively weaker PRs or a single stronger one? My own sense is that more PRs is generally better, as a single stronger PR could go to waste in a newb game. I realize that the same argument holds true for scum so it's prolly a wash.

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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:22 pm

21 looks like a very carefully worded post.

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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:46 pm

Or a question from a newbie who's interested in the thoughts of a more experienced player tasked with answering just these sorts of questions?

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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:07 pm

In post 19, Child wrote:One vote is necessary to start the wagon. And as i said previously..
In post 8, Child wrote:VOTE: micc
My wagon is better. :cop:

What makes your wagon better than the others available at this point in the game?

In post 21, GrandWazoo wrote:General-theory Q for Micc: as our resident IC, which of the 12 possible setups do you think most likely to benefit town? IOW, is it better to have more, relatively weaker PRs or a single stronger one? My own sense is that more PRs is generally better, as a single stronger PR could go to waste in a newb game. I realize that the same argument holds true for scum so it's prolly a wash.

I believe Rolecop vs Cop+Tracker and Rolecop vs Jailkeeper+Tracker to be the most townsided of the possible setups. There are nine total by the way so if you’re seeing 12 then you’re not understanding correctly.

In an open or semi-open setup like this one, more PR’s with less power favors the town. As a thought experiment, consider a setup contains seven townies each named A to G versus two Mafia Roleblocking-Godfather-Ninja-Tracking-Rolecops. Town has a deterministic win using day 1 mass claim despite Mafia players having much more powerful abilities in a vacuum. This effect is less noticeable in closed setups but I believe it to still hold true.
"To hide a tree, use a forest" - Ninja Boy Hideo

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