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Post Post #675  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:36 pm

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votes[2] YellowSnow : Junk , JunkoChan
[1] GuiltyLion : YellowSnow

[4] Not Voting : vesper7, GuiltyLion, brassherald, GrandWazoo

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Post Post #676  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:52 pm

The GL omgus just proves he is scum. If I get lynched he goes next.

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Post Post #677  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:17 pm

I'm on a date tonight. She's briefly away, I'll be back tomorrow morning for reals

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Post Post #678  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:40 pm

In post 670, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 648, GrandWazoo wrote:This is regarding several reactions to yellow's failure to comprehend the 9 setups, which was definitely an obtuse oversight but not scummy imo. Junko expressed surprise that such a "cold minded" and "smart" player as yellow would commit such a faux pas (Junk agreed). That exchange between me and yellow about scum vs. town probabilities alone should render both Junko's adjectives non-operational. OTOH it's not the kind of inane argument I'd expect scum to actively engage in the first place. I get why you're scumreading yellow, but if you look at that other game (1906) you'll see the same kind of behavior.


I got the sense he was faking that slip to try to come off as newbie town - I don't see how it relates to the exchange you had about scum v town probabilities. The only thing I see out of Yellow is attempts to make other players look bad and plays at self-defense. Especially considering his D1 commentary on you, I still can't grok your townread on him here.

Lemme put it this way: Yellow isn't the kind to fake slips. He just slips. When he attacks, he does so on specious or downright unintelligible grounds. When he gets defensive, he flails. This isn't fake newb to me, but plain old newb. My initial read on him in that previous game (I know, it was only one game, but it's consistent with his play in this one) was like yours, newbscum. But I and others came to the conclusion that he was just confused.

and you kinda dodged my question about your callout of me being irrationally supportive. Where in this game did you get the sense that I was doing that? Like I was townreading you when you were the main wagon of the day, but I don't believe I fought all that hard against your wagon

also why the unvote in ?

In and and again in you seemed a bit overeager to townread me, then in and you seized on yellow's responses to me regarding theory, an exchange I found annoying but more yellowderpy than scummy. I'm probably the irrational one, paranoid about being pocketed based on painful prior experience. Not a big deal.

I unvoted because Yyotta's replacement was announced. Call it a gesture of hope that the new guy will finally help sort that slot. I'm verrrrry interested in what this latest replacement has to say.

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Post Post #679  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:44 pm

I wouldn't rule out a YellowSnow + GuiltyLion scumteam, I suppose

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Post Post #680  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:57 pm

Junk has an inability to listen, obvioiusly.

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Post Post #681  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:42 pm

Who is GL's scumbuddy?

Why make these posts when we're playing a game about lying

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Post Post #682  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:27 am

It's hard to say until we hear from the replacement but right now I'd probably say brass or vesper.

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Post Post #683  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:28 am

But the idea of the game is to decide who to listen to and who not to listen to, not to listen to only yourself.

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Post Post #684  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:34 am

LOL

Now that's pretty silly

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Post Post #685  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:35 am

In post 683, YellowSnow wrote:But the idea of the game is to decide who to listen to and who not to listen to

And I chose not to listen to you

So what's the problem now buddy?

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Post Post #686  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:36 am

Not really, no one is going to gamesolve all by themselves.

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Post Post #687  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:36 am

In post 685, Junk wrote:
In post 683, YellowSnow wrote:But the idea of the game is to decide who to listen to and who not to listen to

And I chose not to listen to you

So what's the problem now buddy?


Nothing, it's just not the prevailing opinion.

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Post Post #688  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:38 am

In post 686, YellowSnow wrote:Not really, no one is going to gamesolve all by themselves.

Talk about self-limiting yourself man, sheesh

It's like people are afraid of growing stronger

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Post Post #689  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:42 am

Power is derived from teamwork, not individualism.

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Post Post #690  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:46 am

Okay, Commissar Joseph Stalin, my bad.

Do you also happen to drink vodka and pray to Bears as a holy animal?

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Post Post #691  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:54 am

If I had the time, patience, and fucks to give, I'd ISO Junk to see how many players he's scumread, along with the alleged scumteams. Since I don't, I'll just say Junk has successfully gone through every possible permutation.

Junk is like a tweaked out chimpanzee with a TEC-9, spraying lead everywhere and claiming he's hit a scumbag with every round.

pedit: the Stalin line was pretty good though.

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Post Post #692  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:56 am

If I had to choose, I'd say the game of mafia is more communist than capitalist in nature though.

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Post Post #693  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:58 am

It was actually created by a Moscow State University professor.

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Post Post #694  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:55 am

In post 691, GrandWazoo wrote:Junk is like a tweaked out chimpanzee with a TEC-9, spraying lead everywhere and claiming he's hit a scumbag with every round.

LMFAO

i love this guy

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Post Post #695  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:57 am

In post 693, YellowSnow wrote:It was actually created by a Moscow State University professor.

Yep. And he's still alive. His name was Dima something something.

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Post Post #696  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:39 am

YellowSnow is just googling quotes at this point and GW why are you defending him so much? I do agree that Junk called almost every player in this game scum maybe to come at the end and say I TOLD YOU SO regardless of the ending, but I do believe Yellow madre a mafia opssie
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Post Post #697  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:54 am

Junko, I'm not saying yellow isn't scum. As I've explained several times now, I haven't seen sufficient evidence that he is. All I've seen is a continuation of the same kind of goofball behavior I saw in the previous game where he was town. Since we really have to get today's lynch right, we need more than GL's case - which is compelling but not conclusive imo - and Junk's argument by relentless repetition.

Also, what the hell happened at the end of your sentence?

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Post Post #698  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:55 am

Screw it, I rescind my request to take your time this phase.

Pretty sure Junk and GW are town at this point. Junko is a good bet as well. I know I'm town, so we have the pool of 3 to lynch. I'd love to get the thoughts from vesper before I place my votes, but, like if that's just going to be an empty slot for the rest of the game, so be it.

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Post Post #699  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:30 am

I refer you to the setup template:

In post 2, northsidegal wrote:[size=150]
ABC
MafiaMafia RoleblockerMafia RolecopMafia Goon
Row 1Town Cop and Town NeapolitanTown Cop and Town TrackerTown Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2Town Jailkeeper and Town DoctorTown Jailkeeper and Town TrackerTown Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3Town Cop and Town DoctorTown Neapolitan and Town DoctorTown Tracker and Town Doctor


From the town perspective, there are nine possible setups. But from the scum perspective there are only three - A, B and C. If one scum is RB then A, if rolecop then B, if both are goons it's C. Now let's say you're a cornered scum at L-1, and being forced to fakeclaim. Which do you pick? Doctor seems a bit risky since from town's perspective there are 4 scenarios (A2, A3, B3, C3) in which you could be CC'd and strung up. But scum know there are only 3 scenarios at play, either A1-3, B1-3 or C1-3. Thus the Doc claim is twice as likely to be CC'd in scenario A than in B or C. Specifically if one of you is a RB (A) then Doc is the last PR you'd claim. Only if one of you is rolecop (b) or both of you are goons (C) is Doc the percentage play.

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