Newbie 1917 - Game Over

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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:19 pm

Newbie 1917
Moderated by Micc

Players:
NotMySpamAccount ShadowMaster324
Screamingnoodle
CsBlastoise dotheevolution1
EchoVision SaintAngelDFE
chennisden
Thespio (SE)
u r a person 2 muh316 (SE)
TTTT (SE)
GuiltyLion hawkleader3 (SE)

SE - indicates a Semi-Experienced player, a player who has played at least two games on MafiaScum.net

Spoiler: Alive
NotMySpamAccount, a Vanilla Townie, survived.
Screamingnoodle, a Vanilla Townie, survived.
EchoVision, a Town Doctor, survived.
u r a person 2, a Vanilla Townie, survived.
TTTT, a Vanilla Townie, survived.
GuiltyLion, a Vanilla Townie, survived.

Spoiler: Dead
chennisden, a Mafia Goon, was lynched Day 1.
CsBlastoise, a Town Cop, was killed Night 1.
Thespio, a Mafia Roleblocker, was lynched Day 2.

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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:21 pm

Game Rules

General Rules/Game Etiquette
  1. Obey all Site-wide Rules.
  2. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
  3. You may not quote private communication of any kind. This includes moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
  4. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
Activity/Prods/Replacements
  1. Prods of missing players will be issued after 36 hours of no activity.
  2. A prodded player has 24 hours to respond to the prod, after which time a replacement search will begin. The prodded player may re-enter the game so long as no replacement has been found.
  3. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to possible replacement without further notice.
  4. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than 36 hours please PM me or post in the thread to declare V/LA.
  5. I reserve the right to force replace players who need extensively long V/LA at my own discretion.
Deadlines
  1. Deadlines for this game will be 10 days for Day 1 and 7 days for following Day Phases. Night Phases will last 48 hours.
  2. Extensions are given only in extreme circumstances.
  3. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
Player Actions/Voting/Player Death
  1. A simple majority of all living players must agree on one person (via voting) for a Lynch to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down). If no one has a simple majority of votes at deadline a No Lynch will occur.
  2. Votes must be bolded or use the [.vote] tags to be counted (e.g. Vote: Player or VOTE: Player).
  3. Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
  4. You may Vote: No Lynch - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a Lynch.
  5. Votes made using nicknames or abbreviations will be counted at my discretion. Fake vote gambits should be executed at your own peril. If I think its a vote, then its a vote.
Miscellaneous
  1. I will use Bolded Dark Blue (#004080) for Mod posts. Don't impersonate me. No invisible/small/encrypted text is allowed.
  2. Any situation not explicitly covered above is subject to my discretion and will be handled as I see fit on a case-by-case basis.
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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:21 pm

Setup Information
2d3 (as designed by Cabd):

ABC
MafiaMafia RoleblockerMafia RolecopMafia Goon
Row 1Town Cop and Town NeapolitanTown Cop and Town TrackerTown Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2Town Jailkeeper and Town DoctorTown Jailkeeper and Town TrackerTown Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3Town Cop and Town DoctorTown Neapolitan and Town DoctorTown Tracker and Town Doctor

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by one mafia goon and five vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects. Mafia Roleblocker action takes precedence over a Town Jailkeeper action should that apply.

Mafia have access to their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups
Column A & Row 1: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Neapolitan, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Neapolitan, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Doctor, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PM's
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a Town Jailkeeper.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a Town Cop.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are Town or Mafia. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town NeapolitanWelcome!

You are a Town Neapolitan.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are Vanilla Townie or Not Vanilla Townie. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a Town Tracker.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a Town Doctor.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a Mafia Goon.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a Mafia Goon/Roleblocker/Rolecop. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a Mafia Rolecop.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment. Vanilla Townies and Mafia Goons will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a Mafia Goon/Roleblocker. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a Mafia Roleblocker.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a Mafia Goon/Rolecop. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:24 pm

Introduction and Tips

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):
-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day. Besides the activity requirements listed in Plotinus' original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone plays. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)
Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, L-x, and Hammers
L-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from a lynch. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at L-1 (1 vote away from a lynch) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that players lynch. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to lynch (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see L-2 and L-3 (2 votes away from a lynch and 3 votes away from a lynch, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being lynched, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role
It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at L-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town! While it may help you avoid getting lynched, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counter claiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get lynched for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

LyLo
LyLo is the shortened representation of “lynch or lose.” LyLo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to lynch (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion
Mafia is hard! As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum. That's okay! Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game. Have fun!
"To hide a tree, use a forest" - Ninja Boy Hideo

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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:56 pm

Role PM's will be out within the next 8 hours. Keep an eye on your inbox!

All Role PM's have been sent. Please confirm in the method described by your Role PM.

The game will begin in (expired on 2019-02-12 23:00:00) if enough players have confirmed.
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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:25 pm

I'm still waiting on a few confirmations so I'm going to hold off from starting for a little bit.

Players have (expired on 2019-02-13 23:00:00) to confirm before I search for replacements.
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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:43 pm

NotMySpamAccount replaces ShadowMaster324.
CsBlastoise replaces dotheevolution1.
GuiltyLion replaces hawkleader3.

These players have (expired on 2019-02-16 00:50:00) to confirm.
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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:45 pm

Everyone else has confirmed. It is now Day 1.

Votecount 1.00Not Voting (9) - NotMySpamAccount, Screamingnoodle, CsBlastoise, SaintAngelDFE, chennisden, Thespio, muh316, TTTT, GuiltyLion

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is paused at 10 days until all players have confirmed.
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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:55 pm

VOTE: Thespio I'm still salty from our last game.

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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:05 am

VOTE: Screamingnoodle Gonna put the pressure on someone who's confirmed while I'm waiting for the inactives.

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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:08 am

EbWoP: confirmed their role PM.

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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:04 am

VOTE: chennisden

feels over-explainy
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"

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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:07 am

Given this is my first game, I'm not very sure what constitutes as standard, especially during RVS.

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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:11 am

no worries, there's not really a "standard" and people will have different opinions on how to interpret things. if you're town don't sweat it, I'll likely come around on you if you stay engaged. early game you kinda just have to start with small things and see where it leads, to me voting you for a non-random reason is incrementally better than voting a slot randomly
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"

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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:12 am

but also if you are scum then I have already caught you and you should feel an immense amount of pressure
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"

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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:17 am

1 post is not enough to scumread anyone. Best to let the game develop in RVS for now I guess

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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:41 am

In post 13, GuiltyLion wrote:no worries, there's not really a "standard" and people will have different opinions on how to interpret things. if you're town don't sweat it, I'll likely come around on you if you stay engaged. early game you kinda just have to start with small things and see where it leads, to me voting you for a non-random reason is incrementally better than voting a slot randomly


You're right. May change vote to Muh due to "voting for salt" (better than voting a random slot)

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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:31 am

VOTE: TTTT cause his name hurts me.

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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:02 am

VOTE: chennisden
and I'm already out of RVS

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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:34 am

VOTE: Guilty Lion for teasing a newbie :p hello guys

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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:36 am

In post 16, chennisden wrote:
In post 13, GuiltyLion wrote:no worries, there's not really a "standard" and people will have different opinions on how to interpret things. if you're town don't sweat it, I'll likely come around on you if you stay engaged. early game you kinda just have to start with small things and see where it leads, to me voting you for a non-random reason is incrementally better than voting a slot randomly


You're right. May change vote to Muh due to "voting for salt" (better than voting a random slot)


XD boy you are fresh meat, right now we are in RVS whichis when we don’t know anything people here are teasing and the game really hasn’t begun. Slow down a little tiger, good to see you are an eager prayer though.

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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:49 am

VOTE: TTTT because last game happened and I'm salty
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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:50 am

In post 17, SaintAngelDFE wrote:VOTE: TTTT cause his name hurts me.

What about his avatar?
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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:11 am

VOTE: Thespio for having a Sabertooth mage as his avatar.

Kidding, Sabertooth's fine. UNVOTE: .
Also, you guys seem to be taking RVS unexpectedly seriously.

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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:55 am

In post 18, TTTT wrote:VOTE: chennisden
and I'm already out of RVS


not joking
4 of his 5 posts are newbscum

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