Newbie 2022 - Alternative 00s

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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:03 am

Newbie 2022 - Alternative 00s

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In this game, a random song from the Spotify playlist "Alternative 00s" will be posted with each votecount


PlayersSJReaver
Pearofclubs **
weaversden
Nash Froggo43
Whitevion
Sirius9121 *
innocentvillager (SE)
notscience (SE)
word321 (SE) *

Bold indicates confirmed, * indicates a prod.


Spoiler: Alive
SJReaver
Pearofclubs
weaversden
Froggo43
Whitevion
Sirius9121
innocentvillager (SE)
notscience (SE)
word321 (SE)


Spoiler: Dead
None


Events:
Last edited by brassherald on Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:34 pm, edited 13 times in total.
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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:05 am

Game Rules

General Rules/Game Etiquette
  1. Obey all Site-wide Rules.
  2. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
  3. You may not quote private communication of any kind. This includes moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
  4. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
Activity/Prods/Replacements
  1. Prods of missing players will be issued after 36 hours of no activity.
  2. A prodded player has 24 hours to respond to the prod, after which time a replacement search will begin. The prodded player may re-enter the game so long as no replacement has been found.
  3. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to possible replacement without further notice.
  4. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than 36 hours please PM me or post in the thread to declare V/LA.
  5. I reserve the right to force replace players who need extensively long V/LA at my own discretion.
Deadlines
  1. Deadlines for this game will be 10 days for Day 1 and 7 days for following Day Phases. Night Phases will last 48 hours.
  2. Extensions are given only in extreme circumstances.
  3. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
Player Actions/Voting/Player Death
  1. A simple majority of all living players must agree on one person (via voting) for an Elimination to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down). If no one has a simple majority of votes at deadline a No Elimination will occur.
  2. Votes must be bolded or use the [.vote] tags to be counted (e.g. Vote: Player or VOTE: Player).
  3. Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
  4. You may Vote: No Elimination - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without an Elimination.
  5. Votes made using nicknames or abbreviations will be counted at my discretion. Fake vote gambits should be executed at your own peril. If I think its a vote, then its a vote.
Miscellaneous
  1. I will use Bolded Blue (#0000FF) for Mod posts. Don't impersonate me. No invisible/small/encrypted text is allowed.
  2. Any situation not explicitly covered above is subject to my discretion and will be handled as I see fit on a case-by-case basis.
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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:06 am

Setup Information
NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
MafiaMafia RoleblockerMafia RolecopMafia Goon
Row 1Town Cop and Town DoctorTown Tracker and Town Friendly NeighborTown Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2Town Jailkeeper and Town TrackerTown Jailkeeper and Town Friendly NeighborTown Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3Town Mason and Town MasonTown Tracker and Town DoctorTown Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role.
The remaining six roles will be filled in by one mafia goon and five vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects. Mafia Roleblocker action takes precedence over a Town Jailkeeper action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: List of Setups
Column A & Row 1: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PM's
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a Town Jailkeeper.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a Town Cop.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are Town or Mafia. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a Town Mason.

You know that PLAYER NAME is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a Town Tracker.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a Town Doctor.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a Town Friendly Neighbor.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a Mafia Goon.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a Mafia Goon/Roleblocker/Rolecop. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a Mafia Rolecop.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment. Vanilla Townies and Mafia Goons will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a Mafia Goon. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a Mafia Roleblocker.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a Mafia Goon. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:06 am

Introduction and TipsThanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):
-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day. Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone plays. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)
Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers
E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role
It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town! While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo
ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion
Mafia is hard! As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum. That's okay! Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game. Have fun!
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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:18 am

All role PMs have been sent out. We will start once we have 7/9 confirmations. Currently we have 7 confirmations.
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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:00 pm

With 7 confirmations, the game now begins.



Votecount 1.00Not voting (9): SJReaver, Pearofclubs, weaversden, Froggo43, Whitevion, Sirius9121, innocentvillager, notscience, word321

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-08-06 15:01:00)
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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:05 pm

VOTE: notscience
hello again

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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:09 pm

VOTE: pearofclubs
Nice name

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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:28 pm

hello ppl
for those of u that r new to the game, welcome!
some things u may want to keep in mid:

-U can use can press "quote" on the northeast corner of a message to quote it in ur next reply; it will have a bbcode enclosed by
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[quote] and [/quote]
with said quote and a link to the original post. u can quote multiple posts with the quote+, accumulating different posts on the quote, and then press quote, albeit u can do it only on a single page (it doesnt store if u change pages).
-U may reference posts with the
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[post]#PostNumber[/post]
For example, references the first post on this thread. This is a generalization of the url code.
-U can vote with
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[v]UsernameToBeVoted[/v]
and unvoted with
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[uv]OptionallyUsernameToBeUnvoted[/uv]

-U can press ISO next to a username to see every post said person made on this game.
-Time remaining in a counter is dynamic; dont try to math it urself. Every time u update the page, a the counter will also update with the remaining time.

I think that is a good faq alright
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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:30 pm

VOTE: PearOfClubs
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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:43 pm

VOTE: villager

OMGUS
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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:33 pm

Thank you for the formatting help word321, I much appreciate it. Let me just make sure it works properly.

VOTE: word321

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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:56 pm

These are the real rules of mafia.

1. Don't be a jerk-face
2. Do your best
3. Enjoy yourself

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Also, hello again Pear. I hope you are townie this time and not evil mafia scum. > :- [

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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:08 pm

WELL WELL WELL, LOOKEE WHOS HERE
VOTE: SjReaver

How was your week? :p

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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:11 pm

In post 7, Whitevion wrote:VOTE: pearofclubs
Nice name


Thanks!

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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:13 pm

VOTE: sjreaver

Let’s clown this guy he’s not voting he’s clearly hiding from vca, and only scum want to hide
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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:16 pm

welcome newbies. can everyone just go over their mafia experience briefly (on this site, on others)?

I'll start: I started with a few games on EpicMafia. Since MS I haven't played much EM. I've played MS pretty on and off over the years mostly due to RL and am coming out of a rusty phase so don't expect great play from me lol. I think I used to be pretty heated and post lots of walls but I think my play is becoming less of both (as either alignment). I genuinely do enjoy the game a lot which keeps me coming back and hope you newbies get a similar impression

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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:20 pm

I used to play a ton of games when I was younger/on school breaks (I’m talking 10 at a time) but since my hiatus I’ve only completed a few because I’m an adult with responsibilities so I’m sticking to 2-3 at a time.

I recently found out I have over 18k posts here.
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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:23 pm

Ok, here's mine:
I've played one game on this site, Newbie 2018, in which I rolled scum and my partner afkd out of the game.
It was fun, even if I lost in literally the least amount of time possible :p
Prior to that, I'd read a few games here and on Bay12, poked around on the wiki, but had never played an actual game. Due to rl schedule issues at the moment, I'm not going to be topping the post chart but I'll post what I can.

glhf!

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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:24 pm

Oh sure. This is my second game on this site and on forums in general, my first game is still ongoing so I can't go into it that much but I thought it was very enjoyable. I have a lot of experience playing mafia in person, and I run my own mafia games with friends online, but those are way faster paced (24 hour days). I found this site when I was trying to find inspiration for new roles to implement, and was very interested. I think the meta of this site with so few PRs is a bit barebones, but it is appealing in its own right, as it teaches a different kind of analysis which I like. That's about it I think.

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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:25 pm

I won’t really do the walls either I’m glow of consciousness which basically means I’m posting as I’m thinking various things and typically do best with interactions/I’m pretty good at spotting bad wagons typically (if I jinxed this I s2g)
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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:37 pm

In post 13, Pearofclubs wrote:WELL WELL WELL, LOOKEE WHOS HERE
VOTE: SjReaver

How was your week? :p

Good! I ended up RPing for eight hours on Sunday, so now I'm sleepy. But the scum-hunt never stops so I can never rest.


In post 18, Pearofclubs wrote:Ok, here's mine:
I've played one game on this site, Newbie 2018, in which I rolled scum and my partner afkd out of the game.
It was fun, even if I lost in literally the least amount of time possible :p


You did well. You survived a long day one (11 rl days I think) and only got eliminated D2 because there was no night kill after Dunn jailed you. And you did all of that while in clidd's death tunnel. I'd have cracked.

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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:40 pm

In post 16, innocentvillager wrote:welcome newbies. can everyone just go over their mafia experience briefly (on this site, on others)?


I've won 100% of my games here*!

Before that, I played a superfast onlie game called Town of Salem where days were three minutes each. But it had really cool baddies rolls like arsonist where you could douse a house each night and then set them all on fire at once.

*having only completed one game.

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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:16 pm

The first social deduction game I've ever played was Town of Salem which I started playing in November of 2017. Like SJReaver says, it's a very quick-paced game in which every player has a role and claim space is generally pretty tight, although there is some RNG to squeeze in a fake claim as scum. I got really into the game in the summer of 2018 and then I bought their Coven expansion which added new roles/mechanics, but I was very dissapointed by the lack of a playerbase. I then purchased another game called Throne of Lies, which is very similar to Town of Salem but with much more complex roles, two possible scum teams in which one faction was randomly chosen per game, and a conversion mechanic tied to each scum team. I have like way too many hours in that game.

Sometime in 2019 (I can't quite remember when and the site does not say when my account was created) I stumbled upon a site called mafia.gg (I've heard is very similar to EpicMafia), which is much similar to this site than the other two games I've played in that there is much more time to discuss (most quality rooms run 8-15 minutes per day) and there is a concept of Villagers (Vanilla Town) and Power Roles as opposed to everyone having a power and everyone having to fake claim. I believe I was pretty bad when I first started playing, but I'd say I started getting good about four months ago and I've only been improving since then. The mafia.gg community also hosts closed games through discord that take inspiration from this forum, and I've played in a couple and enjoyed all of them, so I finally decided to try the authentic experience!

I hope this isn't TMI but I did enjoy figuring out this information for myself :)

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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:03 pm

well, I have my site experience on my signature! Mainly cause I am too lazy to create my own wiki page.
I played befor IRL and on chat format; never on town of salem tho.

VOTE: InnocentVillager
I thought u would have the game solved by now, iv. didnt expect u to go for the rvs route.
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