Newbie 2028: On This Day - Game Over, Town win

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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:16 am

Newbie 2028 - On This Day

modded by brassherald

In this game, an "on this day" fact will be posted with each votecount


PlayersTayl0r Swift
Hectic MUSHSHAGANA
Noraa nepenthe
UNOwen
Gimli son of Glóin
Christøpher
Billy Pilgrim word321(SE)
72offsuit (SE)
implosion (SE)

Bold indicates confirmed, * indicates a prod.


Spoiler: Alive
Tayl0r Swift
Hectic
Gimli son of Glóin
Christøpher
implosion (SE)


Spoiler: Dead
Eliminated Day 1: 72offsuit (SE)- VT
Eliminated Night 1 UNOwen - VT
Eliminated Day 2 - Billy Pilgrim(SE) - Mafia Rolecop
Eliminated Day 3 - Noraa - Mafia Goon


Events: | |
Last edited by brassherald on Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:06 pm, edited 18 times in total.
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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:17 am

Game Rules

General Rules/Game Etiquette
  1. Obey all Site-wide Rules.
  2. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
  3. You may not quote private communication of any kind. This includes moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
  4. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
Activity/Prods/Replacements
  1. Prods of missing players will be issued after 36 hours of no activity.
  2. A prodded player has 24 hours to respond to the prod, after which time a replacement search will begin. The prodded player may re-enter the game so long as no replacement has been found.
  3. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to possible replacement without further notice.
  4. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than 36 hours please PM me or post in the thread to declare V/LA.
  5. I reserve the right to force replace players who need extensively long V/LA at my own discretion.
Deadlines
  1. Deadlines for this game will be 10 days for Day 1 and 7 days for following Day Phases. Night Phases will last 48 hours.
  2. Extensions are given only in extreme circumstances.
  3. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
Player Actions/Voting/Player Death
  1. A simple majority of all living players must agree on one person (via voting) for an Elimination to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down). If no one has a simple majority of votes at deadline a No Elimination will occur.
  2. Votes must be bolded or use the [.vote] tags to be counted (e.g. Vote: Player or VOTE: Player).
  3. Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
  4. You may Vote: No Elimination - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without an Elimination.
  5. Votes made using nicknames or abbreviations will be counted at my discretion. Fake vote gambits should be executed at your own peril. If I think its a vote, then its a vote.
Miscellaneous
  1. I will use Bolded Blue (#0000FF) for Mod posts. Don't impersonate me. No invisible/small/encrypted text is allowed.
  2. Any situation not explicitly covered above is subject to my discretion and will be handled as I see fit on a case-by-case basis.
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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:17 am

Setup Information
NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
MafiaMafia RoleblockerMafia RolecopMafia Goon
Row 1Town Cop and Town DoctorTown Tracker and Town Friendly NeighborTown Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2Town Jailkeeper and Town TrackerTown Jailkeeper and Town Friendly NeighborTown Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3Town Mason and Town MasonTown Tracker and Town DoctorTown Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role.
The remaining six roles will be filled in by one mafia goon and five vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects. Mafia Roleblocker action takes precedence over a Town Jailkeeper action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: List of Setups
Column A & Row 1: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3: Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PM's
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a Town Jailkeeper.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a Town Cop.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are Town or Mafia. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a Town Mason.

You know that PLAYER NAME is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a Town Tracker.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a Town Doctor.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a Town Friendly Neighbor.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a Mafia Goon.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a Mafia Goon/Roleblocker/Rolecop. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a Mafia Rolecop.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment. Vanilla Townies and Mafia Goons will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a Mafia Goon. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a Mafia Roleblocker.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a Mafia Goon. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located [url]here[/url], where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is [url]here[/url].

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:17 am

Introduction and TipsThanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):
-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day. Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone plays. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)
Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers
E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role
It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town! While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo
ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion
Mafia is hard! As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum. That's okay! Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game. Have fun!
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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:30 am

All role PMs have been sent out. We will start once we have 7/9 confirmations. Currently we have 7 confirmations.
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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:59 pm

With 7 confirmed, Day 1 begins, timer will begin when all 9 are confirmed.

On this day, 1952 - The Ernest Hemingway novel "The Old Man and the Sea" was published.

VoteCount 1.00Not Voting (7): Tayl0r Swift, MUSHSHAGANA, nepenthe, UNOwen, Gimli son of Glóin, Christøpher, word321, 72offsuit, implosion

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.
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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:53 pm

Hullo! glad to be playing mafia with you all. I promise you I'm town. Time is a minor constraint, but I'll be checking in everyday.

VOTE: 72offsuit

for getting a mafia role is a lot like getting a bad hand in poker

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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:10 pm

Curses, I don’t like voting people who have already posted during RVS! But mark my words, I really was going to say “because I dislike Tolkien’s dwarves”!

Instead, VOTE: word231 because when I checked my heavily damaged dictionary the 231st word that was still legible was “scum”. (Also I like to vote for SEs in RVS, Gimli was going to be the exception!)

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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:17 pm

Hello everyone

VOTE: nepenthe

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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:55 pm

Helloooo ppl! How r yall doing
VOTE: Nepenthe
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Currently playing in Open 794, Newbie2028.
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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:57 pm

In post 8, word321 wrote:hello ppl
for those of u that r new to the game, welcome!
some things u may want to keep in mid:

-U can use can press "quote" on the northeast corner of a message to quote it in ur next reply; it will have a bbcode enclosed by
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[quote] and [/quote]
with said quote and a link to the original post. u can quote multiple posts with the quote+, accumulating different posts on the quote, and then press quote, albeit u can do it only on a single page (it doesnt store if u change pages).
-U may reference posts with the
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[post]#PostNumber[/post]
For example, references the first post on this thread. This is a generalization of the url code.
-U can vote with
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[v]UsernameToBeVoted[/v]
and unvoted with
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[uv]OptionallyUsernameToBeUnvoted[/uv]

-U can press ISO next to a username to see every post said person made on this game.
-Time remaining in a counter is dynamic; dont try to math it urself. Every time u update the page, a the counter will also update with the remaining time.

I think that is a good faq alright

In post 274, word321 wrote:
In post 267, Sirius9121 wrote:@SJReaver
Literally says 'Goon' under their name

V0T3: 5JR3av3r

to vote, u need either to bold ur vote, with:
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[b]TextToBeBolded[/b]


or preferebly use the votetags, wich are:
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[v]UsernameToBeVoted[/v]


note that it is not necessari to actually write "vote:" when using the vote tags

if u dnt proceed as described above, ur vote wont be counted for on the game.

There is no way to invoke a votecount; that is what the moderator do (in our case, it is brassherald).

It is highly recommended to read the first post of this thread () for information like this, and for general rules on the format of this game.


This is a good faq for those still unfamiliar with the forum format
I wont rly bother to redact a new one for here, but everything should apply
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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:03 pm

I am interested in knowing ur previous experiences with mafia in general, and forum format in particular tho
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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:18 pm

In post 11, word321 wrote:I am interested in knowing ur previous experiences with mafia in general, and forum format in particular tho


I used to play mafia with a smaller community back like a decade ago

I got nostalgic watching all these twitch streamers play this new game called Among Us

it's like a minigame version of mafia which is pretty cool but I don't think it'd scratch the itch of this game so here I am

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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:51 pm

hi y'all. let's get into it.

first off, i want to comment on something i see:

In post 8, UNOwen wrote:Hello everyone

VOTE: nepenthe


this is totally innocuous to me, it's NAI to pick a random vote in this game format and i don't take issue with it or find it to be telling; i'm just quoting for context. however...

In post 9, word321 wrote:Helloooo ppl! How r yall doing
VOTE: Nepenthe


this entrance feels a little off to me in that it comes off as almost insincere. the vibe i get from word is that he's trying to introduce himself into the game which in itself isn't a problem, but the immediate hop onto the random vote is what gives me pause. it's like an innocuous slide in, and it seems like he's setting up early to push a lynch or put pressure on someone that isn't his partner to get town focusing on the wrong things.

might be a little paranoid reading - i'd be lying if i told you guys i hadn't smoked before i opened this window, but something about it isn't sitting right. usually i think it's more of a utility as town to random vote someone else instead of going along with someone else's vote, just to start getting an array of reactions early on. am i the weirdo?

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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:52 pm

among us is great, i play the mobile version because i don't like to have too many games on my computer but it's nice to see more people getting into mafia and mafia-adjacent games. there's also significantly less pressure associated with those games because you can grind one out in ten minutes, which is a nice contrast to the games i usually end up playing.

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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:00 pm

Years and years ago, I played some forum games off of this site, one or two on this site, and modded one partway to completion offsite. (Real life intervened.) I lost my login information and all ways to get it back for my old account on this site, and it’s been so long I’ve forgotten everything the wiki didn’t help me relearn. Also, my meta has totally changed, I think.

I’m feeling confident enough to go back into non-newbie games after this game, but I did feel like I needed the refresher, given all I remembered was “social game where people vote to find and destroy bad guys” and didn’t even recall the terminology or anything.

Something to note is I tend towards very large posts and I’m currently banished to mobile devices due to crimes in a past life, so my ability to compose is severely damaged and I will make a lot of large scale mistakes while writing. (Saying something twice in a row, omitting entire sentences, etc.) Sorry for that.



I like that Nepenthe states an actual feeling and gives concrete reasons for it while also leaving open being simply paranoid. I sometimes have to do the same thing, though I’ve gotten more confident in just changing my mind later if I need to also... I guess it depends on the game state.

This is not a townread. It’s far too early to be talking in those terms. I just like the style on display.

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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:52 pm

first.

VOTE: 72off

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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:33 pm

second.

VOTE: Christøpher

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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:41 pm

Concerning that some of the players haven’t checked to see who has posted, as far as I can tell...

Nepenthe, are you going to put a vote down?

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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:49 pm

VOTE: MUSHSHAGANA

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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:53 pm

Suppose I should have asked you too, it just didn’t occur to me that you had already posted without a vote.

That just leaves Nepenthe as the only one without a vote down... hm.

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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:02 pm

In post 18, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Concerning that some of the players haven’t checked to see who has posted, as far as I can tell...

Nepenthe, are you going to put a vote down?


Why is not checking who has posted concerning?

VOTE: MUSHSHAGANA

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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:11 pm

i'm back for the night, sorry to keep some of you hanging.

vote: Tayl0r Swift

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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:15 pm

Because it means they aren’t necessarily paying attention to the game. Yeah, it’s RVS, but RVS is laying the groundwork for Day 1, which frames how the rest of the game plays out. It’s important to keep at least one eye on it, right? So I find it concerning that some players aren’t appearing to do so.

Thinking specifically of Tayl0r and implosion’s posts, which suggested no one else had posted yet, which is obviously incorrect. That is a sort of unawareness that might be indicative of scum, or a lack of interest. I feel safe saying that it’s never pro-town.

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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:16 pm

Point to note, since I forgot to include it: implosion might have been playing off of Tayl0r as a joke there. I don’t see an explanation for Tayl0r’s post, though.

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