Actually Vax
Explain to me how 116 was a townslip.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:58 am
by GuyInFreezer
(Also I was hoping to solve the game in 5 days but I didn't realize Johnny was in V/LA til today sooooo)
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:02 am
by Vaxkiller
"Typically I'd just push something through, but this is a newbie game and I want to see what you guys got."
This.
To clarify, I want the newbies to make some decisions and not just take over the game. Again, I should not have made the above statement as it comes off as a little elitist/rude/too obv town to the other mafia veterans.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:02 am
by Vaxkiller
In post 251, GuyInFreezer wrote:(Also I was hoping to solve the game in 5 days but I didn't realize Johnny was in V/LA til today sooooo)
Excuses Excuses....
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:59 am
by GuyInFreezer
In post 252, Vaxkiller wrote:"Typically I'd just push something through, but this is a newbie game and I want to see what you guys got."
This.
To clarify, I want the newbies to make some decisions and not just take over the game. Again, I should not have made the above statement as it comes off as a little elitist/rude/too obv town to the other mafia veterans.
Ok so it’s not a town
slip
. Thank you for your clarification.
And don’t you worry it does not come off as either for scum can easily make the above statement in willing to coast.
In post 251, GuyInFreezer wrote:(Also I was hoping to solve the game in 5 days but I didn't realize Johnny was in V/LA til today sooooo)
Excuses Excuses....
To be fair I’ve sorted everyone except for Johnny so far so I’ve done as much as I could.
The next potential scenario is that either Johnny comes off town af and I lock my reads as is, or Johnny is a little scumbutt and I try to discern who’s more town between you and Clasko.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:02 am
by GuyInFreezer
Like yeah
technically
I only need solid (and correct) 5 universal townreads to win the game so I could be lazy and call for lunch on all three. But I have too much time for that.
In post 252, Vaxkiller wrote:"Typically I'd just push something through, but this is a newbie game and I want to see what you guys got."
This.
To clarify, I want the newbies to make some decisions and not just take over the game. Again, I should not have made the above statement as it comes off as a little elitist/rude/too obv town to the other mafia veterans.
Ok so it’s not a town
slip
. Thank you for your clarification.
And don’t you worry it does not come off as either for scum can easily make the above statement in willing to coast.
I really wouldn't make state statement in a newbie game tho.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:13 am
by GuyInFreezer
At that point it's WIFOM. Regardless of that though, if there exists a scum motivation to make that post and with good reason, it's not a townslip. So I suggest you get off that crutch if you want to be townread.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:15 am
by GuyInFreezer
Anyway since we both know that you don't actually scumread me, tell me why you voted for Clasko for the second time. I know my reason, but I don't know yours.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:37 am
by fferyllt
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:06 am
by sang froid
VOTE: vax
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:21 am
by GuyInFreezer
Btw I don’t want a lynch in any sort until I see Johnny
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:22 am
by sang froid
who cares
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:25 am
by sang froid
also we don't use "lynch" anymore
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:26 am
by T3
In post 258, GuyInFreezer wrote:At that point it's WIFOM. Regardless of that though, if there exists a scum motivation to make that post and with good reason, it's not a townslip. So I suggest you get off that crutch if you want to be townread.
In post 242, Roden wrote:As far as who Vax's partner could be...the only way it doesn't conflict with my town reads or yours is if it's Johnny. Based on nothing more than PoE at this point, which can easily change once Johnny actually starts posting.
It's a bit of a hot take, but T3, maybe? Most of my conviction comes off of 198 which feels like an attempted setup for the d2 elimination more than anything else. Also, the strong TR read on Vaxkiller of all things. The only arguments he's given is "116 feels naturally towny" and it's not even a good one at that.
Honestly, I don't think it's too hot of a take after these past few pages. He looks about as paired up with Vax as GIF does with Rock, based on their reads. Though, T3 does have a very distinct meta; my only other completed game also had T3 in it and he got caught through meta on page 1. GIF's statement that T3 is an oddball adds up with what I know. He makes bizarre plays as scum and distances himself hard from a scum buddy, and tends to sacrifice himself Day 1 too.
If he's scum, he's playing against his meta since I haven't seen any weird distancing strats. Which I think would be even more noticeable tbh since it's intertwined with his town meta. That's the biggest reason I have him as a town lean. I've been looking for his tells since page 1 lol.
Since you haven't voted yet, what's your opinion on the current game state? Between Vax, GIF, and Rock, who's coming off most town to you?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:24 am
by Roden
Also, Sang, has your read on Rock changed over the past few days?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:31 am
by sang froid
In post 269, T3 wrote:Post 116 I would never ever see coming from scum
y
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:34 am
by sang froid
In post 271, Roden wrote:Also, Sang, has your read on Rock changed over the past few days?
eh I'm ambivalent, so I guess that's a yes
could still see rock!scum but can also see rock!town. maintain that if rock!scum then GIF is a likely partner, but if not then GIF occasionally has decent reads but more than that vax's attempts to spin 116 as being a townslip or as being strongly +town hits me as wrong, as does the assertion that he's obvtown from a page ago
and it doesn't feel like town that's utterly indignant about being read wrong