Blitz 2: The Stars My Destination Mafia- GAME OVER!

chamber · Post Post #938 (isolation #0) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:17 pm

Why is PV scum?

chamber · Post Post #945 (isolation #1) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:27 pm

In post 940, talah wrote:
In post 938, chamber wrote:Why is PV scum?

TLDR

2 neighbourhoods exist

I'm in one with PV and Spiffeh

Groupthink says there's one scum in our neighbourhood (as DGB was apparently in a different neighbourhood and flipped scum).

And PV's ISO is pretty bare (although that's not really a scumtell for him. He's a bit more explantory in our PT).

Welcome!

If I were going to put 2 neighbourhoods in the same game I doubt I'd put exactly 1 scum in both.

chamber · Post Post #951 (isolation #2) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:30 pm

In post 522, fferyllt wrote:ika, pignash, Syryana, Spiffeh, Firebringer

Just looking at the d1 vote counts I think one of those 4 non-syryana people are likely to be scum.

chamber · Post Post #956 (isolation #3) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:32 pm

I'm not going to catch up before deadline, told the mod as much before I replaced in.

chamber · Post Post #961 (isolation #4) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:35 pm

It's almost certainly firebringer unless he's claimed something to clear himself?

chamber · Post Post #964 (isolation #5) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:37 pm

In post 960, Spiffeh wrote:Scum was clearly trying to save DGB (Huntress trying to push the Ranger counterwagon) so I kinda doubt the other scum were on the DGB wagon (unless it was Peregrine when it it looked inevitable for town cred)

2 trying to save with 1 hedging is a pretty common pattern.

chamber · Post Post #967 (isolation #6) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:38 pm

Unfortunate about the IC, why did he use it when he did?

chamber · Post Post #983 (isolation #7) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:00 pm

spiffeh also being in that neighbourhood is a bit saddening.

chamber · Post Post #989 (isolation #8) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:20 pm

In post 988, Firebringer wrote:Why the hell did Chamber think I was scum lol

The way the scum acted around your wagon was quite weird.

chamber · Post Post #991 (isolation #9) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:23 pm

So are there 3 neighbourhoods in total?

chamber · Post Post #995 (isolation #10) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:44 pm

That seems like a bit too much of a coincidence, which does imply one of the scum are in one of the 2.

chamber · Post Post #1006 (isolation #11) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:43 pm

I agree that the claim stuff probably doesn't matter much, I'm not sure talah is scummy for falling for it though. It's a reasonable thing to get tripped up by.

chamber · Post Post #1008 (isolation #12) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:45 pm

In post 1004, talah wrote:If he was and the strongman from huntress resolved to kill Syr and then the "Vig" successfully killed huntress anyway, that's important information don't you think?

Why does that matter at all?

chamber · Post Post #1013 (isolation #13) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:53 pm

In post 1009, talah wrote:
In post 1008, chamber wrote:
In post 1004, talah wrote:If he was and the strongman from huntress resolved to kill Syr and then the "Vig" successfully killed huntress anyway, that's important information don't you think?

Why does that matter at all?

Is the normal (or "standard") event resolution
Scum Strongman Kills Town Roleblocker (Doc Protect) (success)
Town Vig Kills Scum Strongman (success)

Why is the Doc alive?

I would say yes and nothing looks remotely questionable? Kills resolve at the same time. It's not like they can stop each other? And the rare time I have seen them resolved that way, it was mafia's the went first not vigs.

The scum didn't know hunter was going to get NKed. Their intent could have been to try and frame ika. Also they had a free shot at not killing the doctor because of the strongman 1-shot.

chamber · Post Post #1016 (isolation #14) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:57 pm

In post 1014, talah wrote:
In post 1010, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1006, chamber wrote:I agree that the claim stuff probably doesn't matter much, I'm not sure talah is scummy for falling for it though. It's a reasonable thing to get tripped up by.

Seems kind of scummy...
I don't know.
Still unsure of Talah. You never know where a fish has their allegiance too.

LOOK AT THE TULLYS (GOT, wait are they the fish bannerman?)

Egh. Hi (officially) town Firebringer.
Shed crystal tears for me and I'll be happy to eat a lynch or vig. Problem I have is it still leaves two unresolved in my neighbourhood and I'm not sure which, if either, is scum.

We have less than a day on the timer?

It's a 14p game. I would bet that the vig is 1-shot if it's a vig.

chamber · Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:00 pm

In post 172, Spiffeh wrote:That's not necessarily because I always care I am right regardless of alignment.

Also I have only read this one post since I have last posted.

This post is garbage.

chamber · Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:02 pm

In post 191, Spiffeh wrote:I want to get pignash mostly because that's what I would probably say if I was scum and saw a wagon building on town without my involvement.

VOTE: pignash

PEdit: Nah Ranger's first post is town I think.

This one too.

chamber · Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:05 pm

A JOAT is explicitly a role with multiple 1-shot abilities as I understand it? Might be me making the false assumption.

chamber · Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:09 pm

2nd expansion came out. Legacy of the Void. Protoss one.

chamber · Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:15 pm

I have this sinking feeling that there is a 2nd mafia.

chamber · Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:17 pm

In post 284, pignash wrote:Ok, I guess I should vote. I will do some reading on my lunch break and pick someone.

Vote: Pignash

chamber · Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:38 pm

2nd team of 2. Day 1 just seems really weird otherwise.

chamber · Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:16 pm

I mean, I don't think I'm actually right. Much more likely is a 1-shot vig. Just getting conflicting things from the way I read day 1 vs the setup spec.

chamber · Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:46 pm

By pie you mean pig?

chamber · Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:14 am

Unless you amend your claim to weak-doctor that targeted him last night I don't think I really care if that's all you have.

chamber · Post Post #1050 (isolation #25) » Tue Nov 10, 2015 2:44 am

I wouldn't say I'm against PV, so being characterized as being 'so against PV' is a little strange to me. I'm just not for his lynch. There is a substantial difference.

chamber · Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:19 am

In post 1066, pignash wrote:Alright, that is awful.

intent to hammer
in 8 hours.

Look at this shit?

chamber · Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:44 pm

0 chance this is 4 scum on one team in a 14 player game. It's still closer to 2 scum than 4.

chamber · Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:52 pm

In post 1115, Nosferatu wrote:shit I could've said "Wow, I can't believe how full of shit you are".

chamber wrote:0 chance this is 4 scum on one team in a 14 player game. It's still closer to 2 scum than 4.

Scum is usually between one-fourth and one-third of the playerlist, no? That would make 3-4 scum?

You should be aiming for more like 1/5th and never going over 1/4th if you want the game to be decided by anything other than night actions.

chamber · Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:56 pm

In post 1099, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1094, chamber wrote:
Look at this shit?

Not scumm for him. Meta reasons. Last game he hammered giving a bs reason to end the day.

Link?

chamber · Post Post #1132 (isolation #30) » Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:04 pm

He's not wrong though?

chamber · Post Post #1140 (isolation #31) » Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:40 pm

You know he's scum in this game right?

chamber · Post Post #1163 (isolation #32) » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:06 pm

Scum got owned during the day anyway, but this setup seems to lean pretty hard towards town.