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I'm not opposed to lynching Firebringer, I have a soft spot for wagons and caps-posting.
However given that he's L-2 and ika appears to be expressing intent to lolhammer I'd like the day to go on a bit longer.
Why vote away from the wagon just as it's starting to build?
(3 votes at that time)
In post 37, Ranger wrote:I agree with Molla: Firebringer is scum.
What's the point of this post?
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Well that Firebringer wagon evaporated pretty quickly.
Given that I don't like the ABR / ika options and Firebringer might be town given the main drivers are no longer voting him, I'm happy with this in principle and for a couple of other reasons.
VOTE: Syryana
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@Syr
Why did you unvote FB when he was at L-2? There was no risk there as long as nobody else voted him. Your unvote was pointless imo.
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@Molla
While I appreciate your abrasiveness and it comes across as scumhunting, I'm a bit concerned that you've come to independent sorta-conculsions that both FB and Nosferatu are town after having proposed them as scum/scum (83), then scum/sk (146) and now town/town (183)?
It has a feeling of knowing that both are town and having trouble suspending your own disbelief and remaining convincing when confronted directly by your targets.
Also you're happy with ika, Ranger and Kid A now, who seem like pretty easy targets? I'm at least leaning town on ika.
In post 208, BBmolla wrote:ABR and me never tend to see things eye to eye, but I don't think it's indicative of alignment for him, we just read things different.
How is this a train of thought when you're saying ABR seems scummy and then stating something you know about him tending to not see eye to eye with you meta-wise? And you also claim to not be reaction testing?
I'm having a lot of trouble following your play here.
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In post 210, Malakittens wrote:Well Molla's town.
Please explain, I'm not seeing it.
In post 229, Malakittens wrote:In post 226, Firebringer wrote:In post 224, Malakittens wrote:Molla's probably town along with FB and Spiffeh is likely scum but then again that's pretty transparent eh?
Wait how is spiffeh scum?
I would like to hear this.
Gut, maybe a bit of probably inconclusive meta and moar gut.
Your vote seems kind of useless just sitting there on gut.
Goign back to your response to me about voting off the FB wagon, how do you expect to get information from Day 1 if there aren't significant wagons to look back at later? Personal preferences aside, this is a different format from what most of us are used to and there's not a lot of time to chill and do nothing.
We need to be deciding on a lynch right now don't you think?
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I think I'd settle on Ranger for today as well, and I'm certainly not townreading Molla for his shifting sands play.-
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In post 233, BBmolla wrote:
I didn't believe his Syr read could be genuine and voted him
he explained it
I found it could be genuine and unvoted
You seem off as fuck but you might just be awful
No that's not what you said, you said that ABR and you "never tend to see things eye to eye".
This is something you knew before voting ABR.
In post 208, BBmolla wrote:ABR and menever tend to see things eye to eye, but I don't think it's indicative of alignment for him, we just read things different.
In which case you're town-reading Syryana way too hard just for agreeing with you.
And are only voting ABR to get a response. Which you then vote off when you get the response.
I'll agree the ability for someone to change their mind tends town, but changing your mind like 5 times on Day 1 as soon as the people you are scumreading respond to you... Uh yeah no.-
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In post 236, Ranger wrote:Realtalk: I wasn't joking when I voted Firebringer.
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In post 242, Ranger wrote:
There is no explanation I can give that can top the one Syryana already gave. Just go with that one.talah wrote:Explain the scumread please.
So... you had no reasons of your own?
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In post 244, BBmolla wrote:Scum tend to make shit up right? If someone is using the same exact reasoning I am, they likely aren't scum.
Uhhhh, no quite often scum will sheep town that are wrong and augment their arguments.
In post 244, BBmolla wrote:So why is ABR not automatically scum when he has different views?
That is not the question. The question is why do you settle on ameta argumentabout him generally not seeing eye to eye with you, to town him, after you've already made aspecific argumentabout him being scummy in this game?
In post 244, BBmolla wrote:Because I plausibly believed ABR could have those views at my point of unvoting. Obviously I did not when I voted and was why I asked him.
Well I can see that's what you're pushing. I don't know if you came around to it or if you're just full of shit, but I'm not reading your agression as authentic.-
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In post 249, Ranger wrote:
Nice misrep.talah wrote:So... you had no reasons of your own?
I said Syryana said it better than I could. Not that I didn't have reasons of my own.
Syryana just stole every possible reason I could have listed before I could post any of my own. My early posting should have made it quite clear I saw the same things he did. If you'd like, I could go through the posting and do my own wording, but it will end up just being an inferior rehash of what Syryana so thoroughly did the first time.
Generally town are able to just reference their memory and state what they were thinking.
At the time you had wagoned FB because wagons (ok good, fine), and then stated that you were now scumreading FB.
I want to know what you were thinking at that time and I don't really care what Syryana said because obviously he went into some detail, and you didn't.
So again - you had no reason of your own to scumread Firebringer?
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A sentence about why each are town please?-
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He explained his reasoning!
You said you and him always don't see eye to eye!-
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In post 273, Syryana wrote:In post 230, Kid A wrote:Have you changed your mind about this? Seems like yiu have two people in your scumpool but voted neither.
My scumpool doesn't have either an FB or a Nosferatu in it anymore. FB primarily because I went and reread the thread and taking into account Molla's point about SC2 players not taking RVS seriously and the fact he's been pretty fucking town since. Nosferatu's posting got a lot better too.
These are both players that pushed back, hard, on both you and Molla. Seems easy to town them for crap reasons if you're scum.
In post 273, Syryana wrote:In post 232, talah wrote:Well that Firebringer wagon evaporated pretty quickly.
Wagons tend to do that when the person being wagoned starts obvtowning.
And your definition of obvtowning is directly above. That's not obvtowning, it's your read and you saying he's been pretty fucking town.
That's phrasing from you, and justification in the form of agreeing with Molla. If you're not *actually* masons with him, then he's not confirmed town to you and you'd need to provide pretty solid reasons Molla's town, otherwise you could just be supporting wrong-town (or scum with him).
Do correct me if you believe I'm wrong.
In post 273, Syryana wrote:In post 232, talah wrote:Given that I don't like the ABR / ika options and Firebringer might be town given the main drivers are no longer voting him, I'm happy with this in principle and for a couple of other reasons.
VOTE: Syryana
...so you vote one of the drivers? Also is there any particular reason you have to be on a wagon? This also seems like rather a lot of justification for voting me.
Yeah I vote the guy who was sheeping the guy yelling that a player's scum, after the wagon evaporates and they both proceed to do the rounds creating wagons to see if weak spots and easy lynches exist.
The reason I vote you instead of Molla, is that Molla might just be looking for information, and it looks like you're all about securing the lynch... on anyone.
In post 273, Syryana wrote:In post 232, talah wrote:---@Syr
Why did you unvote FB when he was at L-2? There was no risk there as long as nobody else voted him. Your unvote was pointless imo.
He was technically at L-1 when I unvoted, primarily because Ika is a lolhammer.
Also because there was no danger in unvoting him. Is my "pointless unvote" why you're scumreading me?
So if we remove risk of the lolhammer, why are you unvoting at "L-1"? You'll agree it diminishes pressure on the wagon, and you then went ahead and justified your unvote by saying that it was waiting until *I* was satisfied?
I'm not responsible for your actions dude and there was no reason to unvote him unless you stared townreading him at that point, which you didn't.
And no, that's not the only reason I'm voting you but it's one of them. If you want full elaboration I think someone else is planning to post something here shortly but it relates to what DGB's posted and possibly your own hivemind/mason references.
The other couple of reasons I think you're suspicious are your immediate engagement with me regarding caps-posting which I don't recall from the one or two times previously when we played (when I think you were hydra'ing with ffery and possibly Nacho?). I don't remember the exact context of each game but I remember I liked your posting and attempted to interact. I think your natural state most of the time is a lot less proactive than you're being right now. So I feel you've got something you want to push and it doesn't really look like scumhunting to me. It looks like wanting a lynch and you don't care who.
In post 273, Syryana wrote:You leave my mason buddy the fuck alone.
I'm presuming this is an overstatement.
In post 273, Syryana wrote:In post 232, talah wrote:
Your vote seems kind of useless just sitting there on gut.
Goign back to your response to me about voting off the FB wagon, how do you expect to get information from Day 1 if there aren't significant wagons to look back at later? Personal preferences aside, this is a different format from what most of us are used to and there's not a lot of time to chill and do nothing.
We need to be deciding on a lynch right now don't you think?
This part makes me squint really really fucking hard. You seem a lot more interested in being on a lynch wagon than you do in actually finding scum.
Squint all you like, I'm not the one shitvoting whoever I feel I can lynch.
In post 273, Syryana wrote:In post 252, talah wrote:In post 249, Ranger wrote:
Nice misrep.talah wrote:So... you had no reasons of your own?
I said Syryana said it better than I could. Not that I didn't have reasons of my own.
Syryana just stole every possible reason I could have listed before I could post any of my own. My early posting should have made it quite clear I saw the same things he did. If you'd like, I could go through the posting and do my own wording, but it will end up just being an inferior rehash of what Syryana so thoroughly did the first time.
Generally town are able to just reference their memory and state what they were thinking.
At the time you had wagoned FB because wagons (ok good, fine), and then stated that you were now scumreading FB.
I want to know what you were thinking at that time and I don't really care what Syryana said because obviously he went into some detail, and you didn't.
So again - you had no reason of your own to scumread Firebringer?
If that question's too hard for you, how are you reading Firebringer now?
Line 1 is total bullshit.
Line 2 is pointless.
Line 3 he's answered already. Also if you don't buy that he has no reason outside of what I already posted, why are you voting me instead of him since according to you detail is a good thing?
Line 4: Let me spell it out for you. H-E W-A-S H-I-V-E-M-I-N-D-I-N-G W-I-T-H M-E A-N-D M-O-L-L-A.
1) I know when I'm town all I really need to do is R-E-M-E-M-B-E-R what I was thinking at any given point in time and then I can scan back and provide reasoning.
If you think I'm being too harsh there, or am wrong, please explain why town would have mental blanks about their own behaviour generally as often as scum do. TIA.
2) No, what was pointless was Ranger's own post stating that his RVS vote had transitioned to a "serious" vote, without giving any of his own reasoning. Which was the odd behaviour I thought was scummy and was following up with.
3) Yes, he's answered pretty unequivocally that he'll leave the explaining to you. If you're in a 3p neighbourhood with him and Molla then my logicz is going to say that there's at least one scum in it.
You gave detail, but compared to your pushes the detail lacks a feeling of wanting to find scum. Ranger simply had no reason at all. I'm not comparing the scumminess of you two and weighing it up - I'm assessing whether your motivations are town or scum independently. (At least at that point in time.)
4) Good-o. What do you think of DGB's post about neighbourhoods being shitty then?-
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In post 470, Ranger wrote:
*sigh*Syryana wrote:Hey. FB wagon isn't happening right now. Come vote Talah with me!
Fine.
VOTE: talah.
In post 470, Ranger wrote:
I call BS.Albert B. Rampage wrote:I like talah so far. Makes good posts and isn't afraid of anything.
Interesting, these two statements from the same post don't seem to hold the same state of mind.
First you're sighing that you have to switch your vote to me, then you're calling BS on someone calling me town.-
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In post 315, Firebringer wrote:I am getting a bad vibe of Talah posts by the way. Sounds distant and neutral sounding.
Is that normal for you Talah?
I haven't had the role I have before, but you've got completed game meta with me now that Molla's game is over.
So you can probably answer that yourself if you scan the first few pages of the game.-
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In post 474, Ranger wrote:
...And?talah wrote:First you're sighing that you have to switch your vote to me, then you're calling BS on someone calling me town.
And why are you sighing and then saying at the same time that you have 'reasonz' to be voting me?
A vote you're reluctant to make is by definition a vote you *don't* have good reasons for?-
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I want to lynch Syr / Ranger / Firebringer today.
I'd *maybe* settle with ika simply because of his ridiculous strong-towns on Molla and Ranger, and also because he's obviously someone who doesn't survive to any serious point in the game anyway. Despite possibly being town.
He's my last preference though. I liked that he stated Mala might be scum and that he voted ABR for some reason as those are actions he'd probably be called out on.
Unfortunately if he has no interest in answering questions directed at him but is just basically shitposting, the reasoning for me not wanting to lynch him lacks any gravity.
*crickets*
In post 324, ika wrote:mala, why are you ignoring me?
Uh yeah, basically this playstyle is he'll do his own thing and ignore anything anyone asks of him.
I could go there if noone else has the cojones to lynch my top 3.-
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In post 478, talah wrote:Unfortunately if he has no interest in answering questions directed at him
Okay I might have gone a bit overboard with this assessment looking at the rest of what he's posted, but my gut is that he's not going to be addressing anything that has any *meaning* if you know what I mean.
Anyway I've posted like 10 times in a row now and mailing in answers and scumhunting is shitty so ima shut up for now.
We have about a day to decide who's the best lynch. Not a lot of time folks.-
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I can go with that.
UNVOTE: Syryana
VOTE: Ranger
Happy to let the JK/Roleblocker claims sort themselves for Night 1.
Since he's not saying it, Spiffeh, Pere and I are in an anytime-talk neighbourhood. If one of the two is scum, it's probably Spiffeh. But I figure I can nut it out since it's a lot quieter and rational over there.
Anyway, off to work. Tick-tock.-
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In post 671, Nosferatu wrote:I'd be comfortable with Huntress or talah for today, I'd need to be convinced for anything outside of that.
Mind throwing out a couple of reasons for that assessment?
Also we have what - 10 hours?
I think Ranger is the best option. She's shown no inclination to provide reasoning beyond surface-level attributions of alignment. There's no arriving at the destination.
My interactions with her have been simply dismissive on her part with token answers which defeat the purpose of asking questions in the first place.
Ranger or ika please townies.
I'm not going to be voting either of Syr or DGB Day 1 with both claims on the table. The risk is way too high without further information which is only going to come from letting a night pass.
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In post 674, ika wrote:In post 673, pignash wrote:Yeah we only have 12 hours. What's the plan?
lynch DGB
Why are you wanting to lynch a JailKeeper claim when we have no information aside from the current claims?-
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Possibly not, but it's really easy for scum to push a claim-lynch on Day 1 onto the wrong option, even considering that one might be scum.
We need objective information on what happens overnight now that the claims exist.
And anyway - you claimed Mason Doctor Cop?
So how does you trolling support your argument?-
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Okay. Well you were under no actual vote pressure so the claim was probably a bad move.
My argument is not shitty at all. It's actually the optimal play when you have seeming counterclaims with no additional night-action information. And we also need to decide on a reasonable lynch that is either likely scum, clears out bullshit, or both.
I'm going to suggest you vote Ranger then if you actually care about the outcome of this game.-
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What's my town-case on Syryana, or you?
ABR was pretty town by the way. He was confrontational and alert and then apparently just got pissed off and replaced. DGB I'm always tending to give a day to prove herself anyway.
When you say my argument is pretty weak - I think you arguing that it's LOLGOODPLAY to lynch a claimed jailkeeper when we don't have any night action results to make good decisions on, is something far more than weak.-
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In post 682, ika wrote:like if this were to be a full vanilla game instead would you still say the same thing?
what if it was an open? would you still go with what your saying?
No, if this were a full vanilla game there would be no PRs.
If it was an open we would have setup information and could discuss likelihoods of direct counter-claims.
If I presume one of DGB and Syr is town and one is scum (which I don't, by the way, but let's go with that as an example), what we have now is:
Town1: not sure
Town2: not sure, leaning scum
Town3: not sure
Town4: not sure, leaning town
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Scum1: MUST LYNCH TOWN PR CLAIM
Scum2: MUST LYNCH TOWN PR CLAIM
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Do you see that based on no rational or logical argument except for the counterclaims, town lose if scum hold the balance of power in a situation where no additional information exists?
The correct play is to let both claims survive the lynch and have a chance to perform an action which they will necessarily claim tomorrow.-
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In post 685, BBmolla wrote:not moving my vote
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In post 684, ika wrote:In post 683, talah wrote:1)What's my town-case on Syryana, or you?
2)ABR was pretty town by the way. He was confrontational and alert and then apparently just got pissed off and replaced. DGB I'm always tending to give a day to prove herself anyway.
3)When you say my argument is pretty weak - I think you arguing that it's LOLGOODPLAY to lynch a claimed jailkeeper when we don't have any night action results to make good decisions on, is something far more than weak.
1)im not you care to link it?
2) he can do that as both town and scum jsyk
3) congratulations on not refuting the point nd jsut resorting to discredits
The point you made was literally "your argument is weak". There was nothing to refute except that I don't think it's weak at all and I think your line of thinking is weaker.
Which I then proceeded to explain in the same sentence.
Are you just wanting to say things like "discredit" because they make people look scummy? Or are you trying to figure out the game?
As to 1) it was a rhetorical question, if you elaborate on what you want linked I will endeavour to be your linking slave.
As to 2) yeah everyone can and that's a trite phrase.-
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In post 689, BBmolla wrote:talah both ABR and DGB haver been scummy as shit
I'm not prepared to risk it. Apparently you are.-
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In post 688, ika wrote:tell me what scum has then to counterballance 3 portective (yes i consider rb to be a protective role they can block nk)
like im looking at this form setup spec alone, so we are proballylookign at two diffrent wavelenght right now
Oh my god this is like deja vu from Molla's game.
I don't know they have a fucking potato monster with hocks of ham for arms that shoots poison fire-bees from its mouth whenever it posts in this thread.
There are role combinations that easily counter RB / JK.
I dunno, Ascetic redirector to start with? It's a theme.-
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In post 693, Ranger wrote:
Or far more likely, it's you.talah wrote:Since he's not saying it, Spiffeh, Pere and I are in an anytime-talk neighbourhood. If one of the two is scum, it's probably Spiffeh. But I figure I can nut it out since it's a lot quieter and rational over there.
Oh, GGWP you nailed it.-
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In post 694, ika wrote:great risk is great reward
tell ya what, if DGB flips town i will ehlp you lynch ranger tommorw
I don't know what I'll be doing tomorrow if I'm even alive as we'll actually have more information then and Ranger wasn't my top choice for lynch until Syryana claimed anyway.
So this is not really winning me over, thanks for the offer.-
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In post 699, Ranger wrote:
The only thing stopping me from agreeing is thatNosferatu wrote:I'd be comfortable with Huntress or talah for today, I'd need to be convinced for anything outside of that.DGB is very transparently scum and Syryana very much transparently town.
Explain this.-
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In post 706, Ranger wrote:Syryana is the most obvious town player to have ever obvtowned.Ever. Throw in him doing CC that is suicidal for scum to make, and he is town.
He's loud and certainly wants to lynch... someone... but no he's not obvtown. He might be town but you stating that he's obvtown is far from clarifying things for me. Why is he obvtown to you?
In post 706, Ranger wrote:ABR was posting like scum when he was in the game. DGB has done nothing to change that, relying on a crutch-claim to cruise by without actually doing anything. That said claim was CCed by Syryana only solidifies the scumread.
Again - when you say ABR "was posting like scum" there's no explanation. You're stating opinion without reason.
And if you think Syr is town for counterclaiming when it would be suicidal for scum to do so -- what makes you think that DGB-scum would blindly walk into a jailkeeper claim as scum?
I asked you to explain. Not summarise what you'd already said.-
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In post 708, Ranger wrote:
Because jailkeeper is probably her actual role, so she thought it would be safe to claim without being counterclaimed.talah wrote:what makes you think that DGB-scum would blindly walk into a jailkeeper claim as scum?
Given that I've already claimed daytalk for my neighbourhood, wouldn't you think it would be safe to assume scum also has daytalk?
Also several people have floated the idea that ffery might be giving safe-fakeclaims - do you think JK vs Roleblocker is a "safe fakeclaim"? Do you think the mod providing fakeclaims is plausible?-
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In post 652, fferyllt wrote:Deadline: November 6, 2:00 pm US Eastern Time
Countdown: (expired on 2015-11-06 11:00:00)
It's late here and Friday and I have things to do before I go to bed.
I'm not going to be around for deadline unless Ima insomnia which is not unheard of
But you assholes best get your shit in gear and help lynch Ranger or someone who doesn't fuck town if they end up being town.
Enjoy.-
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In post 825, BBmolla wrote:I honestly don't know who the fuck is is scum in Talah/Mala/Kid A, they've all had equally abysmal reads.
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In post 852, Ranger wrote:
By the way: there's, 100%, scum between {Spiffeh, talah, PeregrineV}.talah wrote:Since he's not saying it, Spiffeh, Pere and I are in an anytime-talk neighbourhood.
What makes me think this?
This:
Could that be coincidence, sure, do I think it is? No, I think that was a slip.DrippingGoofBall wrote:Did I mention I hate neighborhoods, and they shouldn't exist?
Actually DGB saying this was what made me think there were other neighbourhoods aside from ours (well along with what I perceived to be another neighbourhood claim from you, Molla and Syr).
After it was clarified that the mason/hivemind references weren't actually mason-based I still had it in mind that DGB could have been in a neighbourhood and we could have been dealing with a multi-neighbourhood setup where there were one or more scum in each (or say none in one and two in another).
Initially my thought was that I was in a nerfed masonry. But you could be right there.
The reason Pere gut-triggered me as being town (this is off the top of my head, and I'll be reading back over our PT in a bit) was that he initially posted a role crumb which is the same crumb I would have posted if I'd been thinking about it. I crumbed the role back. Spiffeh didn't pick up on the crumbs, but on reflection there's no real reason to think he (or Pere) would have the same role given the title of our PT.
The initial reason I was scumreading Spiffeh was that he confronted me with a scumread in-thread rather than in the PT (and didn't spot the role crumbs although as I mentioned that could be moot). I guess that's pretty townie though? When I mentioned that he said he didn't trust neighbourhoods in general.
I think - if you're assuming fakeclaims are a thing then Pere is more likely scum in our neighbourhood. If you think they're not, then Spiffeh is more likely.
I'd still like to think we were a masonry by all but name, but to do that I'd have to mentally resolve a setup that contains
Scum
Scum Jailkeeper
Scum Joat (Strongman, Ability Cop)
Scum xxx
Town
Town Roleblocker
Town Doctor
Town Neighbourhood (3 players)
Innocent Child
Town
Town
Town
Town
Maybe Town
Potential Town Vig (always possible SK)
...soooo, dunno.
Anyway I'm around for a bit. Not sure what your schedule is Nosferatu, since you said you wanted to talk.-
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In post 864, BBmolla wrote:In post 862, ika wrote:im almost wanting amass call at this point
If we believe there are only three scum, probably a good idea.
Well it's either massclaim or it's not.
I can make some presumptions based on this and DGB's comment. I don't see how it's detrimental if you're for massclaim but not for neighbourhood claim.-
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In post 883, ika wrote:In post 882, talah wrote:Because Mala stated a scumread on huntress which was actually a townread.
so you are saying mala is the sk?
Well I wouldn't think it is anyone else given the crumbing.
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In post 885, ika wrote:In post 884, talah wrote:In post 883, ika wrote:In post 882, talah wrote:Because Mala stated a scumread on huntress which was actually a townread.
so you are saying mala is the sk?
Well I wouldn't think it is anyone else given the crumbing.
Potentially speaking, at least.
so why would SK!mala blaineley crumb vig?
Scum or SK both would and do, to cover for future nightkills.
Vig can as well.
I've been killed (blatantly) by scum claiming Vig in two games now. But both of those games my reads were pretty correct.
I don't know if town Vig actually works in this setup, but it's a possibility I guess.-
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Egh well whatever. I've already claimed and frankly am not too perturbed by threats of being lynched.
This even though it would actually be my first mislynch.
I think Mala is either SK or needs to claim her role.
Massclaim I'll leave in the hands of the other players.
Considering the current claims I don't really see how it hurts unless there is an actual investigative role with a result.
Strongman being dead entirely mitigates that.
Actually ika, I'm presuming you protected Syryana? I'm not sure how that would work resolution-wise since huntress dies but Nosferatu - You're the expert I guess?-
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In post 938, chamber wrote:Why is PV scum?
TLDR
2 neighbourhoods exist
I'm in one with PV and Spiffeh
Groupthink says there's one scum in our neighbourhood (as DGB was apparently in a different neighbourhood and flipped scum).
And PV's ISO is pretty bare (although that's not really a scumtell for him. He's a bit more explantory in our PT).
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