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Everyone announces their target going into night. This limits scum's options. If they activate their PGO, we'll have a fairly good idea of where they shot, or didn't shoot. There can be a false positive, or scum wifoming and trying to create a false positive, but we can use our intuition for this, especially if the jailkeepers also do this.
I will target: lane.
In post 18, Ranger wrote:{Dwlee}
{GuiltyLion, pisskop, Lucky2u}
{lane}
{Titus}
Not voting yet.
Isn't it a little early for this? I mean i for one will be getting reads before I decide who I will target. I'm not going to be stuck targeting my top scum read.
Why would you want to target your slight scum lean? Or is that null?
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Post #49 (isolation #4) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:58 am
Postby lane0168 »
In post 48, Persivul wrote:No, the obvious reason, as Almost explained, is that it's reckless to put someone at L-1 in RVS. You could get a derphammer, or a scum hammer disguised as such.
If we're going to use the setup to try to indicate scum, the way to do it is to target randomly. Since roles were assigned randomly, the player list is in effect random. We target the player below N1, then the player above N2. That way if there are two or more kills in a night, scum are narrowed down. There are also some downsides to this but I have to leave for work, will discuss them later.
I think this is the best play of any. Then we ask who veered from the plan day two. And why. That way we know who didn't actually get targeted. Best case scenario... Scum use pgo. We know who they are. Worst case scenario too many people deviate and we're back to good old fashioned scum hunting. If town actually do the plan, besides probably lucky cop and jail keeper, it should keep night kills to a minimum. 3 at most with scum found. And 0 at least, with 1 scum found.
No...and? I don't need to see something happen to recognize the potential danger. Further, I said that doing so is reckless. Both town and scum can be reckless. The reason for my vote is Dwlee's response. If he had said
I wanted to see if Ranger would really put someone at L-1 so early
, or
I wanted to see Titus's reaction to an early L-1
, that would have indicated a town mindset. But, he said he did it just "for lolz," and that's not a town reason.
p-edit @ pisskop: see above.
I know you unvoted. But why not? Why isn't it for funny? You now think it's a town reason?
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Post #86 (isolation #12) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:56 am
Postby lane0168 »
In post 52, Almost50 wrote:@lane: Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it cannot happen, and just because I/you didn't see it happen doesn't mean it didn't happen. Better safe than sorry, so let's not be reckless/careless.
I ask because no one ever does this. A hammer would be scum claim to be. There's no way id let someone convince me it was on accident.
Considering the fact that it almost never happens and ika is not in the game, the concern seemed overstated as pisskop pointed out, and that's why I asked.
I don't know what to make of Persy being worried about something that never happens, voting dwell for his scum reasons to ask ranger about the wagon, and then putting dwell in his town reads.
And did you read his post? Or were you just skimming looking for something to call scummy and latch on? It was pretty obvious that a no lynch is best play in the game plan he was suggesting...
The game plan that he was suggesting as an option... And you want to lunch him for it? That's silly. And scummy
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Post #92 (isolation #15) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:26 am
Postby lane0168 »
True. But for me, how did that turn out? Lol I only wanted to do that because I get in 1v1s as town and generally do look good and the other gets lynched many times if I actually am town. I can't do it as scum, because I can't find genuine shit to attack them for.
So I'm not feeling like it's town or scum for dwell to do it or not do it. If you believe it that's cool. I asked you about it to see if I could get a feel of you believing, or looking for a reason to unvote.
In post 84, lane0168 wrote:Or choose who you want to target. Up 1 or down 1. For the people that don't like to be told what to do.
If people don't announce, we don't get info from the kills. If they do announce, and by some going up and others going down on the same target (that didn't come out right ), we risk excessive kills. It should be everyone goes the same direction N1, then everyone goes the other direction N2 so PRs get fresh targets.
True, but 1 in 16 chance 4 people die, assuming both scum activate. Good odds I think. And no risk if they don't. It leaves at least a bit of uncertainty for scum.
Scum can't kill someone to instigate wifom really... But that will be up to analysis after the deaths and who everyone actually targeted.
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Post #94 (isolation #17) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:32 am
Postby lane0168 »
Low risk meaning unlikely scum instant win. A chance of be willing to take. The thing is with no claim at all, we have absolutely no clue who died for what reason. And the only good thing is that hopefully they target their town read, are right.
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Post #127 (isolation #20) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:26 am
Postby lane0168 »
Jk jail keeps whoever they want in 1up 1down. Figured that would be obvious considering its a power role. And why would we inhibit the actions of a power role? Jail keeper probably won't even jail keep tonight. Not worth the risk
I was scum with pignash in a newbie game and he was mostly inactive. I was waiting to give him time to post and for a while it looked like he would be active, but now he's back to lurking. Not a good sign.
Yup. Lurked as scum in our recent game too. Not sure who I want to vote. I'll just have whoever is next on l-1. Pretty ok with titus lynch. Almost seems town to me. Pignash is lurky and he for sure does that as scum. Lucky doesn't have much to like.
There's not a whole lot of Town or scum looking content out right now
Actually; I would've done just that if I was the JK. No need to lose the cop whether it be for the PGO or the factional kill, and you were the obvious target.
I think that's most likely. Options are 8 alive today with no result, or 7 alive today with no result
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Post #267 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:18 am
Postby lane0168 »
In post 266, Almost50 wrote:Good. Now do you guys prefer to try and think it over or would you rather a no-brainer quick lynch? Bc -obviously- if we choose the latter then we vote pignash & get it over with. If we opt for the former though we need to create some discussion.
P-edit: THAT is what I'm getting at. Only the JK WILL tell us a lie, and only them will know it.
Well, considering I was actually thinking the exact same thing but deleted what I wrote...