Player Titles - Ideas, Suggestions, & Comments

[Errantparabola]

i have no problems with the limbo idea and think it's good.

[Psyche]

very no on the council idea sry
but maybe some variation will be useful someday!

[McMenno]

Removing someone's title is rude.

Good thing I'm not calling for that

remove farce of habit pls

[Davsto]

gasp

[xyzzy]

I 100% think that titles based on specific events should percolate for like at least a month; if it's based on a specific event that really cuts to the heart of who that person is via a specific example that leads to a particularly good title, then maybe sooner than that, but it needs to be long enough that it can pass the "does anyone even remember this happening" test.

[Shadoweh]

CuddlyCaucasian - Professor of being a dog

#1. Kawazu

1s	2s	3s	4s	5s	6s	7s	8s	9s	10s
5%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	0%	10%	10%	76%

Mean: 9.29
St. Dev.: 2.00 (above average)
Game Ranking: 1/24

(Highest in Abridged)

[McMenno]

not my professor

[Firebringer]

how do you teach someone to be a dog?

[xofelf]

While Professor of Being a Dog was based on a singular game, it is a lot more than just that. And a good portion of the titles that come from Mish Mash are that way. But also with how Survivor games tend to be talked about, they aren't a single game that no one ever remembers things that happened in them ever again like a good portion of mafia games are. Only one game runs at a time, and they tend to take 2 months give or take. So it's what everyone is talking about and looking at for 2 months and after games end, events tend to be talked about for months or even years later. There are game events from some of the first anonymous games that people still talk about 6 years later. There aren't titles from that, no, but some of the titles from things have aged well nonetheless.

[McMenno]

Only one game runs at a time

then which one is the real one

[xofelf]

I missed the qualifier of staggered games are things. My bad.

[McMenno]

I don't know what half the words in that sentence mean but MY GOD we shall SOLVE this INJUSTICE!

[mastina]

This thread is not for nominations for player titles. Go here to make a nomination of a player.

Just as a heads-up: you don't actually have a link to the thread for nominations in the OP, even though the "Go here to make a nomination" makes it sound like you intended there to be one there.

[mastina]

Titles based on a single, recent event.

I think that titles based on a single event are, if memorable enough, worthy of a title--if it's a funny story to tell five years from now, it's worthy of a title.

Sure! If the event is so forgettable that a month from now it loses its appeal, not a good title--but making a broad rule against titling off of a single recent event seems to be a mistake because it blocks those good titles from being put in play. This is where the community (and as the final judge, the title fairy themselves) comes in:
They ask, "Okay, this was a recent event, but does it have staying power?" Is it something worth talking about years down the line? If the answer is broadly thought to be yes, then I think allowing the title to go through is something which should be an option. If the answer is generally agreed to be, "eh...probably not", then the event is probably forgettable.

I don't have a strong opposition to your idea, though:

My personal idea is that a title based on a recent event (within the last week or from a game which ended within the last week) should be delayed once they gain enough popularity - and then be reintroduced by the Title Fairy within a week or so, and then made to go through the nthing process from scratch.

I agree with the idea in principle, but I feel that in order for this to be viable solution, you need to have a shift in the title fairy community.

Many good title ideas are shot down because they lack the support.

It is generally thought that, "Well if they lack the support, surely that means the title isn't a good one!"
Not necessarily. Sometimes, people just have suggestions which aren't picked up on. And this would be similar. By killing the initial momentum, the supporters for the title fade away...and then don't come back, except in some rare occasions. So I feel that support (or rather lack thereof) is not alone a good enough indicator for the lasting power of a title, and a metric based off of this would be a mistake.

Basically, I don't think the system should be: *five people support an idea*-->*title is put on hold*-->*idea is revisited*-->*number of people still supporting idea justifies title's acceptance/rejection*.
It'd be better if it'd instead be: *people support an idea*-->*title is put on hold*-->*idea is revisited*-->*people decide if the title still holds merit*.

Though similar, they aren't identical. The former is arbitrary: enough people think something, therefore it is good/not enough people think something, therefore it is bad. The latter is not. I feel the culture should be aimed towards achieving the latter. Making the change Davsto suggests blindly wouldn't work by itself.

[Annadog40]

Can titles have images?

[Psyche]

I've decided I'll just rely on the community and my own judgment to make sure event-based titles are of broad meaning and value to the community.

[zoraster]

Can titles have images?

technically, yes. Hoopla, for example, has a birthday cake as her title.

[Psyche]

specifications?

[zoraster]

From a technological standpoint, not much. You can take a look at how I've done some of the newer scummies in titles (e.g. varsoon's).

From a practical standpoint, I'd probably say use a higher standard overall for images, and make it higher and higher the larger and larger it gets. Certainly it should be no wider than avatars are allowed (120px) and probably no higher than scummies (30px). It probably shouldn't be somethign that might be confused with a site award (scummies, COTM, etc.)

[hiplop]

Okay, maybe not 90%, but I'd say that the first and third of those titles are genuinely bad as well as already quite outdated, and the second is pretty weak too.

That's because you don't post in mish mash

New crummer was a bad title from the start tho ya

[Aristophanes]

Zor, while you're here, are there any restrictions on emojis in titles?
It was discussed with FA's nom and someone said they weren't allowed or something.

[zoraster]

emojis in a title would just be an image, so I imagine the same thing would go for that. But again, I'd say a higher standard needs to be applied to any image title.

That said, within reason the title fairy sets the policy. If he says no images, no emojis, whatever, that's what goes. I'm mostly here just to set some outside boundaries.

[Aristophanes]

Cool! I was wondering on a technical standpoint, which I appreciate the clarification on Makes sense!

And of course, what the Fairy says goes!

Thanks man!

[Papa Zito]

i was under the impression that it was entirely a joke

are you sure

[mhsmith0]

I've decided I'll just rely on the community and my own judgment to make sure event-based titles are of broad meaning and value to the community.