Titling Discussion

[vonflare]

Honestly I would love it if at the end of every game, someone linked to the title thread

please no

[Annadog40]

Why not?

[InflatablePie]

We got a fun example of that with the title nomination for hiplop, which was based largely on happenings in the Large Social Game subforum. It immediately received a bunch of nths, but they were mostly from people with literally 0 posts in LSG. Awkward!

This kind of thing happens often - my title, singers' multiple title nominations over the years, Alisae's (iirc), etc... most "X person deserves a title, but what?" nominations are usually started (and often blindly Nth'd) by those who better know the user in question, regardless of title quality or context. Something something cliques blah blah blah.

A link to the title thread and Scummies thread from a game mod in postgame isn't the worst idea. Honestly I'd love to see it in Newbies more than anything - dunno if anyone playing regular games would care or aren't already aware of the thread so it may fall on deaf ears there, but it's a good way to nudge newcomers to more discussion oriented parts of the site and then they'll eventually stop playing Mafia like the rest of the cool kids

[mastina]

A link to the title thread and Scummies thread from a game mod in postgame isn't the worst idea.

I mean, that's the best solution overall, the problem is that no matter the method, there's a problem with it.
-If it's the listmod who posts this, one, that's extra work for the listmod; two, even if the listmod doesn't mind the extra work, there's the problem of nobody actually reading the listmod's locking post because the entire reason a listmod posts is when a game is archived...and a game is only archived when people have stopped posting for a considerable amount of time.

In other words, by the time a listmod would post, literally everyone has moved on, and thus, nobody sees the announcement at all.

-If it's handled by the game mod, there's multiple problems.
*First, unless we give them one, there's no standardized format.
*Second, it's extra work for the mod.
*Third, it's not something the mods are likely to do, unless we make it mandatory...
...Which is honestly not something I think is a good idea.

The only method averting both of those is (a) volunteer(s) posting, presumably from an official account, with a standardized format post, yet still with a certain level of customization, shortly after the game has ended. As to allow others to see it, understand it comes from an official source, but not burden people who have enough of a workload already.

Yet even that is not without problems. (As I've experienced first-hand.)

Which is why I say I'd love to see it happen, but I'm not sure we can ever find a way to make it happen that's not shitty.

[hiplop]

thats a terrible idea

[xyzzy]

I am very in favor of posts at the end of games reminding players about the title fairy thread. I honestly don't understand how anyone can be against a single short informative post like this???

[Maruchan]

Honestly I would love it if at the end of every game, someone linked to the title thread, similarly to how this was/will be done for the scummies. (We still are working on refining the announcement as to make it more appealing and less spacious.)

Frankly, I personally would even want to combine the two, telling users after each game, "hey, was something here notable? You can let it be known in these spots!"
But that's probably just me.

And maybe not posting it in games that went horribly and deserve no scummy unless scummy for shittyness is a new category

[Annadog40]

If the problem is format, have the title fairy create the format. All the list mod would have to do is copy paste the post created by title fairy. No real downsides and would gain some title fairy diversity.

[DeathRowKitty]

It's pretty rare for titles to be based off of individual mafia games, so I'm not sure that indiscriminately reminding people about the title fairy thread in post-game would be the best idea. It wouldn't serve no function, but it seems like there must be a better way of going about this somehow.

[vonflare]

just have the title fairy thread be the mafiascum landing page

[Invisibility]

just get rid of everything but the title thread

[Ircher]

I am very in favor of posts at the end of games reminding players about the title fairy thread. I honestly don't understand how anyone can be against a single short informative post like this???

The Scummies already does that, and everyone already finds that annoying.

[Annadog40]

Just add it to the mod post at the end since it will be there anyway.

The scummies went overboard and not involved in the natural thread process.

[Not_Mafia]

Sounds like we'd get a huge influx of low quality suggestions

[Annadog40]

It would get new blood in there, then they can learn and become integrated in community. Not like we haven't had that before.

[Invisibility]

just wondering can a title be spoilertagged

[Alisae]

There IS no new blood

[Invisibility]

there is like 2 new blood

[Psyche]

i think it might be a good idea to actively engineer discussion in the title thread every so often so it stays in the public consciousness

[Psyche]

Sounds like we'd get a huge influx of low quality suggestions

and that’s totally okay!

[DeathRowKitty]

i think it might be a good idea to actively engineer discussion in the title thread every so often so it stays in the public consciousness

I'd decided against starting discussions on titles because my opinions by necessity carry more weight and I didn't think it would be a positive to have the titling process start with that. Do you feel differently about that/did you have something else in mind?

[vonflare]

Drk u don't need to suck up anymore u have the power blaze your own path and do something radical like forcing people who suggest titles to link the title thread in their sig for a week

[Invisibility]

Sounds like we'd get a huge influx of low quality suggestions

and that’s totally okay!

yeah low quality will probably lead to high quality through discussion

[Invisibility]

or we just settle on something mediocre smhmshmshmsmhsmhsmh

[Invisibility]

maybe we need to change our mindset about title where they are more of open discussion type things instead of "yes, this is what this person's title will be" and more like "it would be pretty cool if this was this persons title what do you guys think?" if you catch my drift