[FEBRUARY CHALLENGE] Voting!

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[FEBRUARY CHALLENGE] Voting!

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:46 am

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See [JANUARY CHALLENGE] for last month's thread.

February Challenge
Create a new open setup.


Must contain the following:
  • An even number of players
Must contain at least one of the following:
  • Mafia Lover

  • Some new associative group which does not neatly fit into an existing (common) definition (i.e. not a faction, not Masons or Neighborhoods or ordinary Lovers).

Submit your setups as posts in this thread. You may re-submit and/or edit until February 26th, at which point we'll do a voting thing

Winner will be in charge of the requirements for next month's challenge!
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Post Post #109 (isolation #1) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:06 am

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I need to remember to comment on these before the end of the month... running out of time. :)
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Post Post #113 (isolation #2) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:47 am

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I figure we'll do ranked choice voting. I'll figure out which particular flavor sometime today.
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Post Post #114 (isolation #3) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:49 am

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Let's use Ranked Pairs.
I'll edit in a list of all the setups shortly.
Or just go here:

List of all setups

Please post a list of setups in order from favorite to least favorite. You may list as many or as few as you want. You may list tied setups (mark accordingly). Any setups not listed will be tied jointly at the bottom. You may list your own setup - I will assume everyone is voting their own setup as favorite unless you explicitly rank it otherwise.

Recruitment (Not Known 15)
Love 'em and Leave 'em (Jingle)
City Council V3 (Allomancer)
Rivalries (implosion)
House Party (RadiantCowbells)
Guidance (BuJaber)
Romeo, Romeo (Romeo, Romeo, Romeo, Mercutio) (irrelephant11)
three strikes (Something_Smart)
The Wilderness (BBmolla)
The Boardroom 3: Shredded Documents (Awoo)
Three Pods (BulletNLynchproof)
The Representative (califorjudgement)
Face Eaters (Bicephalous Bob)
Tough on Crime (northsidegal)
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Post Post #120 (isolation #4) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:11 am

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I thought about submitting something, but honestly I have been so busy this month I haven’t had a chance to think about setups. ~shrug~
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Post Post #126 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:34 am

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In post 122, Awoo wrote:Yeah just pretend I submitted boardroom 2 - 3 isn't quite right
This is fine with me. The last revision is listed for all of them, but if you like an earlier better by all means reflect that in your rankings.

I will close this tomorrow (?). Once I've had a chance to read through and vote myself.
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Post Post #133 (isolation #6) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:00 am

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Ok, this is happening today, one way or another. Grr.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #7) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:12 am

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Ok, my list; all ordered (not that I put just a ton of thought into order within a group other than the top).

Interesting
- would like to see these run
Rivalries (implosion)
City Council V3 (Allomancer)
Romeo, Romeo (Romeo, Romeo, Romeo, Mercutio) (irrelephant11)
Three Pods (BulletNLynchproof)
The Representative (califorjudgement)

Ok
- could be fine, but either not sure that it would work out well, or needs tweaking
The Boardroom 3: Shredded Documents (Awoo)
Love 'em and Leave 'em (Jingle)
Tough on Crime (northsidegal)
The Wilderness (BBmolla)
three strikes (Something_Smart)

Meh
- meh
Recruitment (Not Known 15)
Guidance (BuJaber)
House Party (RadiantCowbells)

???

Face Eaters (Bicephalous Bob)
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Post Post #135 (isolation #8) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:13 am

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Will work out the voting results shortly.
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Post Post #136 (isolation #9) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:04 pm

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Results
(with pairwise W-L-T)
1. Rivalries (implosion) - 13-0
2. Romeo, Romeo (Romeo, Romeo, Romeo, Mercutio) (irrelephant11) - 12-1
3. House Party (RadiantCowbells) - 10-2-1 (tied pairwise with Love 'em or Leave 'em)
4. Three Pods (BulletNLynchproof) - 9-4 (lost pairwise to Tough on Crime, RP puts them in this order)
5. The Boardroom 2/3 (Awoo) - 9-4
6. Tough on Crime (northsidegal) - 9-4
7. Love 'em and Leave 'em (Jingle) - 7-5-1
8. The Representative (califorjudgement) - 6-7
9t. Recruitment (Not Known 15) - 4-8-1
9t. three strikes (Something_Smart) - 4-8-1
11. The Wilderness (BBmolla) - 3-10
12. City Council V3 (Allomancer) - 2-11
13. Guidance (BuJaber) - 1-12
14. Face Eaters (Bicephalous Bob) - 0-13

Congrats, implosion!
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Post Post #137 (isolation #10) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:05 pm

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FWIW, I ranked House Party so low almost entirely because of the random selection in case of no majority. If I had commented earlier, I would have suggested just leaving this out - town has an incentive to successfully split the parties, due to the nightkill restriction, so force them to get to a majority. (Didn't matter in the end results, though.)
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Post Post #140 (isolation #11) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:09 pm

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If no one else has claimed it, I will be happy to run Rivalries at some point. (It just may be a little while before I have time.)
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Post Post #142 (isolation #12) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:25 pm

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There's a nice demo of Condorcet methods here:

https://robla.net/1996/politics/condorcet-front.html

Enter in the first box:
1,Recruitment (Not Known 15)
2,Love 'em and Leave 'em (Jingle)
3,City Council V3 (Allomancer)
4,Rivalries (implosion)
5,House Party (RadiantCowbells)
6,Guidance (BuJaber)
7,Romeo, Romeo (Romeo, Romeo, Romeo, Mercutio) (irrelephant11)
8,three strikes (Something_Smart)
9,The Wilderness (BBmolla)
10,The Boardroom 2/3 (Awoo)
11,Three Pods (BulletNLynchproof)
12,The Representative (califorjudgement)
13,Face Eaters (Bicephalous Bob)
14,Tough on Crime (northsidegal)


And in the second:
1:4>7=10=11>2=5=12=14>1=9>3=8>6=13
1:1>4>11>7>2>10>12>8>5>14>9>3>13>6
1:4>7>12>1>5>14>11>10>2>3>8>6>9>13
1:14>4>2>7>5>11>8>12>9>3>10>6>1>13
1:7=10>2>4=11=14>1=8>3=5>12>6=9=13
1:1>7>5>14>12>2=3=4=6=8=9=11>10>13
1:5>4>10>14>11>2>7>12>8>1>9>6>3>13
1:14>2=7=8>4=5=10=11>9=12>3=6>1=13
1:5>4=11>1=2=3=6=7=8=9=10=12=14>13
1:5=12>2=4=14>1=3=7=8=10=11>6=9=13
1:4>3>7>11>12>10>2>14>9>8>1>6>5>13
1:3>1=2=4=5=6=7=8=9=10=11=12=13=14
1:6>1=2=3=4=5=7=8=9=10=11=12=13=14
1:9>1=2=3=4=5=6=7=8=10=11=12=13=14
1:10>1=2=3=4=5=6=7=8=9=11=12=13=14
1:13>1=2=3=4=5=6=7=8=9=10=11=12=14


Ranked Pairs only matters if there is a cycle; otherwise, the results just follow the candidates which beat all candidates below them.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:57 pm

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This is secretly a dictatorship. I could have messed with the numbers and no one would ever actually check...

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