[Setup] 9 and 2 [Edited]
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Blair Mafia Scum
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Blair Mafia Scum
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Blair Mafia Scum
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Blair Mafia Scum
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If it isn't clear enough, I disagree with your claim that the skill disparity between the two sites is a "fact" and look forward to hearing what your sample size and conclusive evidence is to support this.
Theperceptionof MU players for the past couple of years has largely been that MS has strong scum and MU has strong town. It's impossible to gather conclusive data to support this conclusion, however, because even identical setups are run differently on the two sites - MU considers plurality lynches and shorter phases to be standard, and MS considers majority lynches and longer phases standard.
Phase length and plurality/majority lynches are major factors that influence game balance - that's why setups that produce balanced win rates on one sites often have to be tweaked to produce the same on the other. Not a "factual" skill disparity.-
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Blair Mafia Scum
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We ran a series alternating between the two sites shortly after launching MU.In post 40, OkaPoka wrote:crossgame ms vs mu when
The results did not support Quick's conclusion, but I'm sure he's basing his opinion off of more recent experiences.-
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Blair Mafia Scum
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Blair Mafia Scum
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Blair Mafia Scum
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Blair Mafia Scum
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Very good, Quick!In post 52, Quick wrote:
That looks illogical to me...In post 50, Blair wrote:"Cherry Pepsi outsells Original Pepsi, while Original Coca-Cola outsells Cherry Coca-Cola. Therefore, Cherry Pepsi is better than Cherry Coca-Cola."
Now substitute:
Cherry > Town
Original > Scum
Pepsi > on MU
Coca-Cola > on MS
Outsells > Outperforms-
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Blair Mafia Scum
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Blair Mafia Scum
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"Town win rate is slightly higher under MU rulesets" would have been fine. That's measurable.In post 58, Quick wrote:Or you could try and see what I was trying to get at with Ircher for what it is. Your choice!
That isn't what you said, though, and when it was clear that I was responding to what you actually said, rather than the above, you could have corrected yourself. Instead you doubled down and suggested that the town win rates were not what you meant, but instead were actually evidence for what you said.
Otherwise identical setups become more townsided when you run them with 48 hour day phases and plurality lynches. If that was your point, then I agree, and we're done here.
If that wasn't your point, then everything else I said earlier still applies.-
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Blair Mafia Scum
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Blair Mafia Scum
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There is a high likelihood that I am thinking of that.In post 68, TheMainMan wrote:
There was like a Hydra event where I think maybe a couple of people from here might've joined up and played in that?In post 65, Blair wrote:Hi, Thingy!
Now I have to do some digging, because it's going to drive me crazy trying to figure out what series I was referring to.
If I participated in a hydra on MU, it will have likely been with Phoenicks.
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Blair Mafia Scum
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Does no one else enjoy Mountainous?“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot-
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Blair Mafia Scum
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Yeah, I almost wonder if the name "Mountainous" is a self-fulfilling prophecy (climbing mountains is very hard, reportedly).
Perhaps a less intimidating topographical name would yield more optimistic town win-rates? I suggest "Featureless Plain."“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot
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