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Post Post #997 (isolation #0) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:29 pm

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Mafia Odd-night Roleblocker x1
Mafia Even-night Role Cop x1
Mafia Goon x1

Town Vigilante x1
Town Doctor x1
Town VT x8
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Post Post #998 (isolation #1) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:30 pm

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random setup made by me for fun, setup name AlternateKP
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被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #2) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:54 pm

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Mountainous Vengeful
7 vengeful townies

3 mafia goons


The night death flips AFTER the vote flip.
if a Vengeful Townie gets venged they also get to venge


probably worst idea but i want opinions
either 7/3 or (5/2)?
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所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #3) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:33 pm

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In post 1078, Gypyx wrote:hmm...

feels townsided

an interesting consequence is that MiLo isn't actually risking town to lose
how would u suggest balanc
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Post Post #1081 (isolation #4) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:54 pm

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feels townsided so add town

logic
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #5) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:05 pm

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In post 1083, Isis wrote:Could you clean up the setup wording? I'm not sure how the setup works.
basically the one who gets lynched is scum, the day ends and night kill is announced.
lynched is town, town gets a vengeful.
vengeful player is town, continue venging until hit scum
when hit scum, day ends
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被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #6) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:40 pm

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Spoiler: This spoiler contains a potentially underthought, quite broken setup. Do not read if you do not like those.
4 x Town 1-shot Doctor
3 x Town 1-shot Jailkeeper
4 x Town 1-shot Vigilante
3 x Town 1-shot Neighbourizer
2 x Town 1-shot Cop
2 x Mafia 1-shot Janitor
1 x Mafia 1-shot Neighbourizer
3 x Mafia 1-shot Role Cop
16 x Town Vanilla

3 votes per person, each day highest 3 players votes eliminated.
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被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #7) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:55 pm

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被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯
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Post Post #1118 (isolation #8) » Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:54 am

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In post 1117, Gypyx wrote:
nope other way around
what a thick-skinned face
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所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:32 pm

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d1 - maf lim (1/3) :

20% maf winrate

d1 - town lim (2/3):

2 - 3
Chance of vengetown: 60%
2 - (2 + 1)
50 (1 - 3) - (25% maf win) / 50 (ins, maf win)

Chance of vengescum: 40%
1 - (3)
25% maf win

total:
maf winrate = (1/3*20+2/3*60*125/2/100+2/3*40*25/100)% = 38.33%
town winrate = (1/3*80+2/3*60*75/2/100+2/3*40*75/100)% = 61.67%

overly high town wr
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被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯
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Post Post #1130 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:50 pm

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Spoiler: 1st elim cop/kill
d1 - maf lim (1/3)

1 - 3
25% maf wr

d1 - town lim (2/3)

Chance of vengetown: 60%
2 - (2 + 1)
50 (1 - 3) - (25% maf win) / 50 (ins, maf win)

Chance of vengescum: 40%
1 - (3)
25% maf win

total:
maf winrate = (1/3*25+2/3*60*125/2/100+2/3*40*25/100)% = 40%
town winrate = (1/3*75+2/3*60*75/2/100+2/3*40*75/100)% = 60%
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被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯
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Post Post #1191 (isolation #11) » Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:59 pm

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In post 1184, MURDERCAT wrote:
hot potato
6 vanilla townies

3 mafia goons


Nightstart, blitz timing

At night, mafia chooses a number of passes between 5 and 15 (inclusive) and a player to start with the potato. They have no factional kill.

During the day there is no voting. Instead, if a player holds the potato for more than 12 hours, is holding it when the day ends, or receives it after the predetermined number of passes, they are eliminated.

A player with the potato may pass it to anyone else, except the person that passed it to them.

Passing the potato with less than 12 hours left in the deadline adds 3 hours to the deadline.

If, at any point, the number of town is 1 greater than the number of mafia, the game returns to normal day voting rules. If a member of the mafia is eliminated while in this state, the potato passing rules begin again.


Just wanted to document this somewhere other than discord because I might run it as a memey micro. Could also be a fun marathon game.
this is very unfair in terms of timezones tho
imagine recieving the pootato at 9:30pm and waking up 9:31 am
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被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #12) » Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:53 pm

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In post 1192, Gamma Emerald wrote:Who is gonna be asleep for 12+ hours???
me
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所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
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Post Post #1194 (isolation #13) » Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:53 pm

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i once slept for about 15-16 hours without waking up
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所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #14) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:16 am

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In post 1196, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1191, Sirius9121 wrote:this is very unfair in terms of timezones tho
imagine recieving the pootato at 9:30pm and waking up 9:31 am
The blitz timing would be made clear in sign ups so people know they need to check in every 12 hours.
During the day there is no voting. Instead, if a player holds the potato for more than 12 hours, is holding it when the day ends, or receives it after the predetermined number of passes, they are eliminated.

Passing the potato with less than 12 hours left in the deadline adds 3 hours to the deadline.
lets assume the timer is 12:01
player passes potato
then after 11:59 the player passes it again
that makes the 'i need to check in' timer 3 hours and 2 minutes.
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被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯
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Post Post #1199 (isolation #15) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:38 am

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In post 1198, MURDERCAT wrote:There's always a need to check in close to deadlines in games if you let it get close, that's a feature not a bug.
my timezone be like BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR and the deadline changes often how are we going to prepare xD

anyway uh ._.
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被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯

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