[OLD] Open Setup Discussion and Nominations

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Post Post #1100 (isolation #0) » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:42 pm

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SS4 can be done with another townie. It elimates the massclaim factor. In which 2 people claim townies and 1 claims SS.

SS is better with 4-5 and you can add another role if you want to.

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Post Post #1106 (isolation #1) » Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:21 pm

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Nice setup Xyzzy, I'd play that.
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #2) » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:48 am

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Clarify: do all 4 mason's know eachother or is it 2 of 2?
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:15 am

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I like Jeep Classic+++, one question: day or night vig?

And about IH's Life or Death: what message does the shellshocked medic get if attmpts to vig? Or is it just as if they attempted the NK immune or hit a doc protect?

Also, is there another smalltown in the works, I love smalltowns.
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Post Post #1234 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:14 am

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Cheers IH

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Post Post #1238 (isolation #5) » Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:09 pm

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Max wrote:I'm bringing back one of my older set-ups with a slight adaption

I've got 1

3 mafia
3 werewolves
1 docs
1 sorcerors
1 bulletproof townies
1 wolves bane
1 cop
1 seer
1 cultists
7 townies
2 lovers (1 chosen randomly from above(not townie))(1 townie)

Any comments?
I'd say this is overly complicated, mixed faction games usually work better when more simplistic. But hey, I could be wrong.

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Post Post #1240 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:09 am

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Yeah, its still unneccesarily complex. You have a doc, a sorcerer, a bulletproof townie, and a wolf's bane, thats fairly heavy in the protection area.

I suppose I just don't like the idea of crossing mafia with werewolf so...intensly. Maybe if you're info and protection roles covered both factions, and halve them?

(disclaimer: I like Monks and masons, but that was a cool mechanic)
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Post Post #1269 (isolation #7) » Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:07 pm

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THIRD TEXAS JUSTICE
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Post Post #1282 (isolation #8) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:43 am

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Yeah max, better make the SK bulletproof and add a few cultists hey :P
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Post Post #1285 (isolation #9) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:25 am

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Adel wrote:better?
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Post Post #1298 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:42 pm

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whats the point in the cops?

Seriously?
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:15 pm

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Second AITP.


Pure classic.
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Post Post #1386 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:59 pm

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wow...its like super saint 3, but without the cool.

plus massclaim breaks it :P
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:32 am

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I'm going to try this anyway, but I assume although it has an open setup is not acceptable due to the mechanics.

Oh well, worth a shot. Maybe if enough people second it....
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Post Post #1425 (isolation #14) » Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:39 pm

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I still think AITP should count as an Open game, and suggest that it is run.
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Post Post #1435 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:17 am

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NOMINATE SMALLTOWN
THIS SITE NEEDS MOAR SMALLTOWN!

No, seriously, it even fits the normal definition.
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:50 am

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<3

The first smalltown setup was fairly balanced on random alignment assignment right?
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:10 am

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Aye Kelly, I agree. The scrubs one wasn't too bad, but just had too many protection type roles.

Any suggestions on which would be good?
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Post Post #1450 (isolation #18) » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:01 pm

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shaft.ed wrote:
Kelly Chen wrote:
Lol Nightless

10 Mafia
10 Town
This game starts with scum having fulfilled their win condition.
That stills leaves entrants with a 50% chance of winning the game. Odds don't get any more even than that.
How does it, the mafia only need one stray vote, and they can prevent a lynch on any one buddy.
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Post Post #1451 (isolation #19) » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:01 pm

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Second monks and Masons
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Post Post #1471 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:03 pm

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This one was IMed to me and I like it:

BAM'S TRUST NO ONE

1 GF + 1 Goon
1 Cop
2 millers
2 townies

Millers would be told they're townies I assume.
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Post Post #1473 (isolation #21) » Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:11 am

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Thats interesting too.
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Post Post #1481 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:31 pm

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Nominate the following (or second if Previously Nommed):
Monks and Masons
Quack Mafia
Picking Simplicity
Strawberry Mafia
Pie E7
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #23) » Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:31 pm

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Firstly
Justice Nightless
4 Mafia w/ day Kill option
8 Townies w/ day Kill option
This phails.

All mafia daykill instantly, they now comprise of 50% of the town, therefor fulfill win condition.

Also: Re: Adel's:

A cop gets a guilty, claims straight up. (Hey, there are three more cops).

Also, you seem to be relying on fakeclaims to make the game.
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #24) » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:48 am

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I would say Xyzzy's mechanic just pushes it outside Open.

Biting the Bullet and
Nominate Scrubs Smalltown
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Post Post #1523 (isolation #25) » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:31 pm

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Need moar smalltown support
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Post Post #1636 (isolation #26) » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:30 am

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Nominate Adel's Mafia of the Lost


Best setup by Adel, I'd like to play it.

Nominate Vengeful


Nominate Jester mafai


Lets get some in the thread.
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Post Post #1641 (isolation #27) » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:20 pm

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shaft.ed wrote:But I'd be more than happy if it were in the queue twice
I think it can be, as Texas Justice was played Open 51, Open 52.
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Post Post #1643 (isolation #28) » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:23 pm

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I think Texas justice needs to be fixed, but I'm not sure.
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Post Post #1665 (isolation #29) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:11 pm

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Second Friends and Enemies 2l.0


A good setup.
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Post Post #1677 (isolation #30) » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:42 pm

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Good idea, good idea, good idea...
xyzzy wrote:All players may privately communicate.
Phail.
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Post Post #1679 (isolation #31) » Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:59 am

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Xyzzy:
Daytalk 12:

1. Are goons allowed to communicate at night?
2. Are players allowed to post screen shots of private communication?
3. Are all forms of private communication allowed during the day?
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Post Post #1682 (isolation #32) » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:17 pm

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After hearing your reasoning, I actually like double standard now. I think its a good idea.
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Post Post #1693 (isolation #33) » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:16 am

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Timebomb = MAD but without some of the bits of MAD that I like.
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Post Post #1702 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:24 am

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Yeah Flea. It was everyone knowning X role and the vengefuls that made is Unnormal IIRC
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Post Post #1716 (isolation #35) » Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:29 pm

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Second Strawberry


A good setup.

Can anyone either quote or link me to "mountainous multiball?"
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Post Post #1718 (isolation #36) » Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:54 pm

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ah thanks for that.


Why multiball? What does that imply?

Also Cross-Kills?
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Post Post #1722 (isolation #37) » Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:49 pm

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Yeah...i guess.

I like Adel's explaination: "it sounds pretty flashy though."
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #38) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:41 pm

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The mafia already have an RB, No kill.
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Post Post #1729 (isolation #39) » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:10 pm

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Well, it sort of fits the C9/New C9/C9++ or whatever idea of probability.
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Post Post #1741 (isolation #40) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:59 pm

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ABR Mafia (accuracy ftw)

1 town vig (can dayvig 1 player a day, unlimited shots)
8 protown cops
3 antitown cops.
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Post Post #1785 (isolation #41) » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:49 pm

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Also, lynching the Golden child counts as a mafia win.
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Post Post #1787 (isolation #42) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:15 am

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No, its to avoid the Golden Child claiming and getting lynched D1 thus preventing the mafia from winning.
If the town's win/lose is based on its NK, just lycnh for win.
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Post Post #1789 (isolation #43) » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:28 am

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Also phate, you need to nominate a specific smalltown.
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Post Post #1792 (isolation #44) » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:44 pm

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Vig in a c9 is dangerous.
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Post Post #1798 (isolation #45) » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:05 am

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Naaarrrminate Multiball Quag f'r a spot in thar open queue
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Post Post #1813 (isolation #46) » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:11 pm

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shaft.ed wrote:Can the SK perform both the mafia NK and the SK NK because that could be a simple way for the mafia to weed out who the SK is.
He'd have to be able to.


1 Mafia Goon/b. Roleblocker/b. b. PR investigator
1 Mafia Roleblocker/b. PR investigator/b. b. Goon
1 Mafia PR investigator/b. Goon/b. b. Roleblocker
1 Doc/b. Cop/b. b. Vig
1 Cop/b. Vig/b. b. Doc
1 Vig/b. Doc/b. b. Cop
5 townies
(One action/night for all power roles.)

Very interesting, confusing as hell, but interesting.
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Post Post #1815 (isolation #47) » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:31 am

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Yeah I get it, and I like it, but...what if the cop is alive and the vig dies, does he become a copvig?
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Post Post #1824 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:51 pm

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Second the above
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Post Post #1826 (isolation #49) » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:51 am

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The tracker one is easily broken.

We decided this: If you have a role that targets two people and you get two results: Target yourself as one of the choices.
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Post Post #1932 (isolation #50) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:09 pm

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AITP is back on the open list? AWESOME!
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Post Post #1959 (isolation #51) » Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:46 am

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Sim wrote:1 NK-immune Serial Killer
NK-Immune Miller Vig.
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #52) » Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:47 am

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Second
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Post Post #1990 (isolation #53) » Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:03 pm

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Jdodge is correct. I've played with and used NK immune Godfathers, they can be convention with some mods.
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Post Post #2084 (isolation #54) » Tue May 13, 2008 3:44 pm

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DOES THE QUACK KILL SCUM!?
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Post Post #2226 (isolation #55) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:48 pm

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xyzzy wrote:
bird1111 wrote:
xyzzy wrote:
Friends are Enemies


4 sets of 3 masons. These groups are public.

2 of the sets will potentially become scum when their first member dies (unless another group has already become scum) - they are not informed beforehand. The person who dies remains town. No reveal on death.
Have fun with the town no-lynching until you give up and declare them the winners.
Ban no-lynch, then.

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You realise that in most circumstances lynching townies knowingly actually detracts from the win condition of town-aligned players.

Anything that forces me to go against my win condition blows.
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Post Post #2281 (isolation #56) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:15 am

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dahill1 wrote:
Tekkactus wrote:Chances are this has been done before, since it's so blindingly simple, but I couldn't find it, so...

Team of the Hill

3 Mafia (Faction A)
3 Mafia (Faction B)
3 Mafia (Faction C)
3 Mafia (Faction D)
There is a night phase for discussion, but no Nightkills. Nightstart, a team wins when they're the only ones remaining.
i don't see how this is really mafia..
Thats cause it isn't mafia. Its lame.
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Post Post #2410 (isolation #57) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:35 pm

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Nominate Baby Too Much Scum
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Post Post #2419 (isolation #58) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:46 am

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Oman wrote:
Nominate Baby Too Much Scum
I think people misunderstand how good this setup is.
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Post Post #2422 (isolation #59) » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:47 am

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AITP is awesome because it turns your normal mafia play on its head. Speedlynching is good etc.
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Post Post #2437 (isolation #60) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:13 pm

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Twomz wrote:1 Gravedigger (seen targeting dead player every night)


Wow, nice role!
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Post Post #2440 (isolation #61) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:52 pm

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Busted...
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Post Post #2454 (isolation #62) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:40 pm

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Double Lose if mafia stop killing.
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Post Post #2455 (isolation #63) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:40 pm

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In 3:2 (town:scum) they fakeclaim chosen.
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Post Post #2537 (isolation #64) » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:09 am

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Guardian wrote:
SuperSaint 5 -- SS5


2 mafia
2 SuperSaints (kill whomever hammers them)
1 Townie

Nightless
Fixd
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