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In post 101, PHANTOM wrote:In addition, millers should not know that they are a miller, and to them will just appear as a VT.
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In post 105, tn5421 wrote:Doesn't the variable amount of millers make it semiopen?
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Prefer the Rolecop version, yeah. And if we make Cop-Enabler a sticker, we don't even need the extra rules.
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Probably ok, and your version of Traitor is what I prefer. Don't love Suicide Bomber as a fix for Jailkeeper claim (I would just take the trade if I were the JK), but Doctor and Traitor nerf the JK's investigative ability to the point that I doubt a JK claim is that good.
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Combo roles like this won't fly, unless we include stickers for roles as well as modifiers (probably not). Not a fan of concentrating all the power in one role anyway, would rather see it spread out.
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Reasonable (assuming we go with the Miller sticker). JK needs to stop a kill to gain a lynch. Roleblocker-JK combo I could do without.
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Non-normal role, probably not. This one looks pretty tough on Mafia.
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The balance at either end seems off, especially 1/2/3 (2:6 with a Doctor and nothing else is already tough on the town, and you're adding something that completely negates the Doctor and also an extra Vengekill for the scum). I would do some rearranging, get rid of the Vengeful part (put Doctor on one end, and maybe add a one-shot Vig on the other, so in those games the town has a chance to get an extra lynch).
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Like, and I think we've established it's balanced.
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Assuming that's supposed to read "Vengeful Town"... Probably not too unreasonable, just swingy.
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JK claim day 1?
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Mafia is way too strong in this one.
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Pretty reasonable?
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90% certain cult isin expansiontorn into little pieces in a fire atm
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Hey, now, I feel like my version of cult is reasonable."You. I am going to bury you. I am going to bury you and erect an icecream stand on your grave. And all the kids will love that you're dead because they get ice cream. Also your tombstone will say 'here lies a cheeky scumbag.'" - Papa Zito
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Not really a fan of the cross-alignment Lover thing.
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Fine, but not different enough from the other 9-player setups we have, I think.
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The problem with variable numbers of millers who don't know they are millers is that it basically turns the Cop into a (partially) Random Cop. If we had Vanilla Cop in the deck, this might be an interesting setup (with the semi-open part randomly determining some named roles like Miller, Lover, or Vengeful Townie)? Except for the Cop-Doc combo of course. Meh.
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This would end up a 3:5? Even with the Vig and a potential PGO, Vengeful, or Supersaint, this seems like it couldn't possibly be balanced. Or am I misunderstanding the semi-open part?- mith
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In post 111, Prof Fridays wrote:Hey, now, I feel like my version of cult is reasonable.
I have long (but not always) been in the "Cult is a bad role because alignement changes are bad/no-fun/etc." camp. But for more constructive criticism: In your setup, the Cult is at best a two-person group, with no kill; they are strictly inferior to the Mafia (who have a kill), and would have a very hard time winning even if the Mafia both went down before a Culty died.- mith
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Oy vey I mistyped. It should be 2:6, Mafia Goon should be Vanilla Town. I was wondering what the best power role would be and you're right that Vanillla Cop would be best.
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Could add another PR if needed, but town will already have three named roles so.
Definitely a bit more of a wacky setup.Last edited by BBmolla on Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.Come see me in the Great American Melodrama in Oceano - BBmolla
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