[OLD] Open Design Challenge Finalists (Kids With Guns!)

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[OLD] Open Design Challenge Finalists (Kids With Guns!)

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:44 pm

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We got quite a few of the shortlisted setups tested during the recent Marathon weekend, and from those I have selected five finalists. I'm not sure yet how many we'll end up using for the rulebook accompanying the published card deck (quite possibly all of these along with a couple others from the shortlist), but here I am opening it up to the community to determine who should be awarded the prize(s) when we get these things ready. Your participation here might also encourage me to run future design challenges with prizes, so there's that too.

List the following in order of preference!
Links are to the marathon test games, where they exist.

8 Player: Untitled
- by Aronis

1 Mafia Goon
1 Mafia Suicide Bomber
1 Innocent Child
1 One-shot Vig
4 Vanilla Town

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=58573 - Town Win
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=58616 - Mafia Win

9 Player: Son of the Cop
- by BBmolla
If the miller dies, the cop may not investigate at night anymore.


1 Mafia Rolecop
1 Mafia Goon
1 Cop
1 Miller
5 Vanilla Town

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=58571 - Mafia Win

10 Player: Lovers' Gambit
- by FakeGod
After the role cards are dealt, the lover with the innocent child sticker reveals his/her card.


2 Mafia Goons
1 Town Lover
1 Town Lover (Innocent Child)
1 Jailkeeper
5 Vanilla Town

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=58618 - Mafia Win

12 Player: Classic Rivals
- by BBmolla

1 Mafia Ninja
1 Mafia Godfather
1 Mafia Doctor
1 Cop
1 Tracker
1 Vigilante
6 Vanilla Town

13 Player: Untitled
- by Jackal711

1 Mafia Roleblocker
2 Mafia Goons
1 Vigilante
1 Cop
1 Bodyguard
7 Vanilla Town

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=58575 - Town Win
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=58605 - Mafia Win
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:15 pm

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1. Aronis' Untitled (Suicide Bomber makes for a great "omg" moment, especially if it were to be f2f)
2. BBMolla's Classic Rivals
3. Jackal's Untitled
4. FakeGod's Lover's Gambit
5. BBMolla's Son of the Cop
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:13 pm

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Son of Cop
Lover's Gambit
Aronis
Jackal
Classic Rivals
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:20 pm

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1) 8p Untitled
2) 13p Untitled
3) Son of the Cop
4) Classic Rivals
5) Lover's Gambit
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:59 pm

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Son of the Cop
Lover's Gambit
Aronis's Untitled
Classic Rivals
Jackal's Untitled
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:07 am

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1.Aronis
2.Jackals
3. Lover's Gambit
4.Classic rivals
5.Son of cop
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:34 am

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Son of Cop
Lover's Gambit
Jackal
Classic Rivals
Aronis

Also, if we could get a signup thread for when the decks are ready I would totally love to give you money.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:37 am

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And if the price is reasonable, I might order a few for the store.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:30 pm

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1) Jackal
2) Aronis
3) Son of the Cop
4) Classic Rivals
5) Lover's Gambit
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:31 pm

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In post 6, Jingle wrote:Son of Cop
Lover's Gambit
Jackal
Classic Rivals
Aronis

Also, if we could get a signup thread for when the decks are ready I would totally love to give you money.

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I'd vote, but I'm super bias.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:15 am

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You are welcome to vote among the others; your game won't be penalized in any way.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:03 pm

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I, like, can't express how much Aronis' 8p game is totally the best. It's pretty simple and thus is a pretty good segway for newbie players used to the simple Vanilla Town and Mafia style. It has a great high moment when the Suicide Bomber decides to explode on someone. I can imagine the hilarity playing that type of game with my friends.

Jackal's and BBMolla's are good for basic, fairly PR-heavy games, and in that sense, it gives more players more stuff to do and can be more fun in that regard. Lover's Gambit and Son of the Cop are cool concepts, but the mild complexity in those set-ups can be a barrier.

Anywho, just my thoughts on the matter, thinking about my group of friends! I don't claim my situation to be the norm.
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THE LAB 4 is live!
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:29 pm

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Alright.

So:
1. My setup is the best, obv.
2. Jackal's 13p
3. Classic Rivals
4. Son of the Cop
5. Lovers gambit. How is the setup not town sided? The mafia only won because of exceptional play.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:39 am

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As the creator of course I think mine is #1. My order for the other 4:

1) Aronis' Untitled
2) BBMolla's Son of the Cop
3) FakeGod's Lover's Gambit
4) BBMolla's Classic Rivals
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:03 pm

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In post 12, Aronis wrote:How is the setup not town sided? The mafia only won because of exceptional play.


http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=58302
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:59 am

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1. aronis untitled
2. lover's gambit
3. jackal's untitled
4. son of the cop
5. classic rivals
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:29 am

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1. Son of a cop
2. Aronis Untitled
3. Rivals
4. Jackal Untitled
5. Lovers
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:55 am

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I would like to play son of a cop and aronis's, and probably would want to play them again after that. I fear I don't really have an opinion about the other 3 setups.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:34 pm

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The Aronis 8p setup is comfortably ahead, so I am going to go ahead and declare in the winner. Congrats, Aronis!

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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:40 pm

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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:42 pm

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I came up with "Suicide Mission" and "For the Motherland!"
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:42 pm

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Also, congrats, Aronis!! :D
"You. I am going to bury you. I am going to bury you and erect an icecream stand on your grave. And all the kids will love that you're dead because they get ice cream. Also your tombstone will say 'here lies a cheeky scumbag.'" - Papa Zito

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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:43 pm

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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:58 pm

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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:08 pm

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In post 19, BBmolla wrote:Kids With Guns
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