[SETUP] BIOLOGY!

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[SETUP] BIOLOGY!

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:36 pm

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Science is kinda scumsided so this is my attempt at making it slightly less so.

BIOLOGY!!


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2 Mafia Goon

2 Masons
1 Town Hidden Soldier
2 Vanilla Townies

  • Masons and Mafia have daytalk.
  • At the start of the game, Mafia recieve the name of the Soldier.
  • If the game ends with the Soldier as one of the last two players, Town wins.
  • Soldier is told they are a VT.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:56 pm

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According to computer simulation, BIOLOGY! is a 55% mafia win and 45% town win.

An improvement compared to SCIENCE!: 63% mafia win and 37% town win.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:03 pm

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The following statement that I believe is strategy equilibrium is committed to the program:

> If mason is about to be lynched D1--the other mason claim
> If both masons make it town D2--at least 1 mason claim (EV:1/3). It doesn't matter 1 or 2. Mafia shouldn't cc.
> On D3, the mafia is aiming to CC VT instead of the mason.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:38 pm

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Thanks Realeo! That balance seems pretty good actually.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:02 am

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@Realeo: I believe you can improve the strategy like this: if a mason is about to be lynched D1, that player claims; if scum claims mason then one mason counterclaims; if scum counterclaims a mason claim then the other mason countercounterclaims. This plays out almost the same as your strategy, but makes it harder for scum to aim their N1 kill.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:31 pm

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I feel you're correct, but I will crunch the logic first. I feel something is off.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:20 am

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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what exactly is stopping scum from just killing the soldier immediately?
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:37 am

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It means that they don't get to kill the Masons instead, which will potentially lead to them getting caught by PoE. The Soldier's basically there to ensure that if scum can't get them lynched during the day, they have to make suboptimal kills at night.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:31 pm

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I've never seen a PR I'd prefer VT over before this.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:35 am

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If the mafia goons pretend to be masons...
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:46 am

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In post 9, RyanK wrote:If the mafia goons pretend to be masons...
One mason flip outs the team.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:54 pm

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In post 8, House wrote:I've never seen a PR I'd prefer VT over before this.
It's strictly better than a VT...I don't get it.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:45 am

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In post 11, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 8, House wrote:I've never seen a PR I'd prefer VT over before this.
It's strictly better than a VT...I don't get it.
Not for the sucker stuck with it.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:30 am

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You don't need to survive to endgame as town to have a successful game :)
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:38 am

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In post 13, Infinity 324 wrote:You don't need to survive to endgame as town to have a successful game :)
No, but it still sucks to be chosen to die not for what you can do but simply because of your nonutility role.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:39 am

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Fair enough
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:05 am

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There is now a completed game version of this setup found here:
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:06 am

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*takes a deep bow*
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:08 am

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*kicks house from behind so he falls over* :P
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:25 am

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In post 18, Something_Smart wrote:*kicks house from behind so he falls over* :P

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