[SETUP] Clashing Colors

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[SETUP] Clashing Colors

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:45 am

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I've been toying around with the idea of having multiple uninformed majorities while still having a game that is recognizably Mafia, and this is what I've got. Not yet fully fleshed out, in particular I'm not sure what PRs would be appropriate.

Clashing Colors
Roles

1x
Blue
Mafia Goon

1x
Green
Mafia Goon

1x
Town [Investigative]

1x
Town [Protective]

4x
Blue Vanilla Townie

4x
Green Vanilla Townie


(The two town PRs are assigned opposite colors.)

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  • Plurality lynch.
  • All colors are public information.
  • Mafia win in the usual way.
  • Blue Town wins when the Mafia are eliminated and the Blues outnumber the Greens.
  • Green Town wins when the Mafia are eliminated and the Greens outnumber the Blues.
  • If the Mafia are eliminated and there are equally many Greens and Blues, those factions draw.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:56 am

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I'd be pissed if I lost a game because we lynched all mafia members but more of my town was nightkilled than the other.

Would a Blue cop get a guilty or inno on a green mafia?
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:56 am

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Wait, just realized a serious problem with this: catching one (w.o.l.o.g.) blue goon means every lynch is going to be of a greeny from that point on.

Maybe better if the colors are just randomized altogether? Though that could lead to setups that are unfair for one color.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:57 am

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My intention was that a blue cop would get a guilty either way, but I haven't nailed down the PRs so who knows?
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:02 am

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Another thought, could have more Mafia but make it nightless, so that nightkills won't determine the winner, just politics.

Here's a question I should know the answer to: as town, is having more scum of your color an advantage or a disadvantage (if this information isn't public)?
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:48 am

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its equally advantageous because any advantages gained are immediately transferred to the other colour (assuming same number of mafia on either side)
if they are uneven then having more is a huge advantage. Mafia won't want to kill their own colour and if you lose one mafia you dont insta lose.
Also shouldn't this effectively stalemate because neither side benefits from lynching it's own side. Potentially you could have the two factions split into two lynch sections for day play. They can only lynch their own colour. Town who finds their own mafia without lynching townies wins. due to it being the same thread and night actions the scum kill and PRs can WIFOM between groups to try and unbalance the amount of people in either group.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:32 am

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I think Ircher already tried the "dueling towns" concept, IIRC it wasn't super well received.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:56 pm

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Hmm. Link?
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:59 pm

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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:46 pm

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Honestly, I think the idea would work better cult-recruitment style.

Edit: There's other quirks to iron out, but that kinda solves one issue inherent in the idea.
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